http://www.kamisama.com.br/daizex.htm
The gist of it is that we at DaizEX are spoiled, arrogant, etc. etc., not caring that DB is the work of someone else to begin with... nevermind the fact that we're the ones doing all the work, here, and not giving us credit for at least scanning the images is tantamount to claiming them as their own.
Edit: Thanks to forum member FerroFX, we now have a translation that makes sense. And so I present to you... a pile of crap (the article, that is, not the translation):
So... there we are. Have at it, folks. Be sure to rip apart every little fallacy in their argument, such that they have nothing left to stand on the next time they try and pull something (not that they had much in the first place, but you get the idea).Kami Sama Explorer wrote:To our friends in Daizenshuu EX...
Curiously, on this past May 02, KAMI SAMA EXPLORER (KSE) had the “pleasure” of being accused of being “bootlegers” and of other attitudes not matching our character, by a well-known site among Dragon Ball fans, DAIZENSHUU EX. This American site, whose webmaster is known by the nickname VegettoEX (Michael Labrie), initiated a pathetic nonsense discussion, around something that he even has no rights: The scans and covers of the Dragon Ball Perfect Edition (DBPE). According to what’s written in the site itself, there is a Brazilian Site (ours) that copies and translate the Kanzebans (DBPE's), not giving any credit to the source (them), as if it was an obligation. Despite not quoting names, we know that they refer to KSE, due to the discussions already battled previously in the DAIZENSHUU EX forum by its own Michael and his helper Julian, that says to be the owner of the scans. Lets view the facts:
We know that nobody holds the rights on a work based on the fact of having produced it. It’s a fact that KSE is not looking for any kind of profit or ego enlargement and it is obvious that we reproduce images only as an informative and illustrative character, even though we indirectly end up promoting products that neither KSE nor DAIZENSHUU EX holds any rights over, as much on the product itself, as on the distribution of it.
KSE always preoccupies itself with NOT claiming the rights of an image for ourselves that doesn’t belong to us, that’s why we never put (and we never will put) our “mark/stamp” on any image that we reproduce, whether that REPRODUCTION is the fruit of our labor or not. The only thing that we care about is our intellectual property, that is, the informational texts that we create for KSE and the site design (that by the way is simple and rough, but attends to the necessities). That being the case, for any other thing that is reproduced in KSE, ANYONE is free to use in their site not HAVING to give us any credit for it.
To do a fan-site like in the case of KSE, divulging proper information and net-collected images for people that don’t speak Japanese/English without looking for profit or ego enlargement, besides being hard it’s fatiguing. But we like what we do. It was with great satisfaction that we translated the final scans of DBPE, based on the original translation by the CONRAD PUBLISHING COMPANY in DBZ (original) and with the help of other collaborators. Unfortunately, it isn’t the case of DAIZENSHUU EX’s team, that think to have an EXCLUSIVE right and total power to use images they don't have any rights over. So, if we’re going to talk about “bootleggers”, let's start by talking about DAIZENSHUU EX's services, considering that reproducing something without the author’s/creator’s authorization is technically illegal. In brief, DAIZENSHUU EX webmasters themselves are being hypocrites criticizing such actions, since for them, it would be the same as "the dirty criticizing the badly washed".
If they care about rights so much, to have their egos so inflated (or to collect more visitors), in spite of having the simple pleasure of distribute the knowledge of material non accessible to others, this way we hope DAIZENSHUU EX’s webmasters enjoy our humble and sincere votes of recognition, like egoistical gunmen that don’t give out material aiming for the “informative”, but the “accumulative”. There are so many absurd things committed by these webmasters, that reach to a point of putting reference borders to their site in scans and other works of Akira Toriyama, as though it was exclusive material (and of their production). Unfortunately (for them) it isn’t. And the distribution of that material on other sites (mainly KSE) functions more like a mirror, not like a pride motive or if it was something majestic and unique to comment on in Akira Toriyama’s “Universe”. After all, sites that still work with a Dragon Ball/Akira Toriyama theme are rare, therefore, we don’t think of competition or exclusivity. And by the way this is going, one can count by is fingers the ones who are competent and do a sincere job for the fans. Definitely, it’s not the case of DAIZENSHUU EX.
If by an access of craziness (or narcissism) the webmasters believe that they’re the only ones to possess the DBPE scans in the WHOLE WORLD, we’re “sorry”, and a lot, to inform that you aren’t. They can cry, struggle, but even before they started to release DBPE scans, one of SHUEISHA's own sales sites already did it, remembering that ONLY THEY possess any right to reclaim anything on the use of the scans, after all, they own the licenses. Not satisfied, other sales sites, like AMAZON or even sites really WORTHY of being mentioned like SSD and many others, whether sales sites or not, were already doing it. That’s the idea of exclusivity and possession of something that, any REAL FAN would have, is beaten and dumb. In the doubt, that they fill their “exclusive” scans with logos and DAIZENSHUU EX urls, so that they demonstrate once and for all that their intention is not to promote art, but to promote themselves. Besides of course, serious complications that the webmasters would have on the hands of FUNimation, by the arbitrary use of unauthorized material by the author/licensor of the work, in case they were sued. Unless they’re really the supreme licensers of the work, like they believe themselves to be.
Really, the motivation to use the DAIZENSHUU EX team’s scanned images is for, the fact that they have better quality, because that’s what a fan deserves and it’s for the fan that we make our material available, not for self-promotion. The images were available on the net, independently of who scanned it or not, they only possess one ONLY MORAL OWNER, and that is the author/licensor. Therefore, even if we recognize the DAIZENSHUU EX team’s effort in reproducing and releasing (illegally) that kind of material which we’re accused of “stealing”, we don’t have any obligation of giving credits. We could even, by a matter of good manners and non-obligation, give prestige and valorize the “work” and “competence” of the DAIZENSHUU EX team by referring to it in our site. But fortunately, we found out before we committed this stupidity the real nature and intention of that team in making such material available, as for the site itself, losing in that way any kind of credit with the fan, visitor, and us from KSE, that have a real work and credited with our visitors and fans and we believed that in its many years of existence DAIZENSHUU EX wouldn’t be the fruit of a mean, egotistical, egocentric and principally hypocritical work.
Don’t the DAIZENSHUU EX members realize the size of the hypocrisy they possess and see that along with the accusations of “thievery”, there are quotes on the verge of the pitch of contradiction, like the Mp3’s that they have available on their site? Or even making available products not yet commercialized or recent, like the complete scans of NEKO MAJIN Z 3? Is it that maybe Julian and Michael are the writers of the series and the official artists of Dragon Ball and we didn’t know? Or [do they] possess a SPECIAL LICENSE given by FUNimation itself, SHUEISHA or even Akira Toriyama to release images, sounds and other artifacts theoretically illegal? Nothing against who has that kind of material, but demanding exclusivity of piracy, PLEASE GIVE ME A BREAK!
We at KSE know that part of our work is “theoretically” illegal. But at least, we recognize who it belongs to, we know the importance of the licensors and the TV broadcasters and with the certainty that they understand our positions as fans (and not as mercenary bootleggers). And when DAIZENSHUU EX is basically all based in illegal copies, we possess our own informative character texts, created by the own KSE team and collaborators, so, KSE’s goal is not to show certain material, it is to give a total vision of Dragon Ball and other works by Akira Toriyama, besides the importance of it on the media. That doesn’t remove the fact that we theoretically unauthorized reproduction material, but we don’t have the luxury of reclaiming utopian rights, an attitude worthy of despicable little people and losers, that seem to do it to collect visitors and maintain their morals up high. We do this because we like to and we want to. Because we’re fans, And fans are everything that publishers need and vice-versa. We dispense it without cheap hypocrisy and the ridiculous egocentrism of DAIZENSHUU EX.
It’s curious that, as we had a positive image of Daizenshuu EX in the past, the times that we received pompous praises from them weren’t few. Maybe the fear of losing visitors to a “foreign” site and the international acknowledgement of KSE as a source of information, is the cause of all of this affliction and change, with no ideological point and contradicting their own opinions. But it is always good to renew our concepts once in a while.
It’s up to you, visitors, to defend the hypocritical American character or the in-your-face sincere Brazilians…
Anderson "Kami Sama" – General KSE Webmaster
Akauê "Ginyu" - Webmaster and KSE official collaborator
