"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[Nejishiki]

With the Time Ring anomaly hardly being referenced, it makes me wonder if that first battle will be "skipped" and everyone heads straight to Goku Black.

[THEGOKU]

Will we see Mastered SSJ3 from Goku?
Just kidding, contrary to SSJ2, SSJ3 is flawed by design contrary to former which was never given a weakness.

I wouldn't be surprised if Toyotarõ uses a lot of time in this chapter to explain Black's ability, to give Rosé and Zamasu vs the Saiyans huge focus.

Just because I am not sure what you meant about SSJ3 being flawed would you mind explaining what you mean? Also given that the manga has time to get more in depth we could even get Black training and becoming SSJ Rose.

SSJ3 drains energy at a high rate, we're told this by Goku in the Boo Arc and we see the flaw in the final fight. Comparatively, SSJ2 was never given any weakness, it's a simply superior SSJ.
I doubt the manga will show any of Goku Black's training, if it even exists. It might go into detail regarding his ability's, that's what I want honestly.

I do remember that but I always thought it was because he had never used it while actually being alive since he learned how to become SSJ3 when he was dead. An he fought Buu at SSJ3 when he was dead. He might have even mentioned something similar to what I am saying but I could be wrong.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Will we see Mastered SSJ3 from Goku?
Just kidding, contrary to SSJ2, SSJ3 is flawed by design contrary to former which was never given a weakness.

I wouldn't be surprised if Toyotarõ uses a lot of time in this chapter to explain Black's ability, to give Rosé and Zamasu vs the Saiyans huge focus.

Just because I am not sure what you meant about SSJ3 being flawed would you mind explaining what you mean? Also given that the manga has time to get more in depth we could even get Black training and becoming SSJ Rose.

SSJ3 drains energy at a high rate, we're told this by Goku in the Boo Arc and we see the flaw in the final fight. Comparatively, SSJ2 was never given any weakness, it's a simply superior SSJ.
I doubt the manga will show any of Goku Black's training, if it even exists. It might go into detail regarding his ability's, that's what I want honestly.

Super Saiyan 2 seems to bring back all the weaknesses that Super Saiyan had before it was mastered.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

With the Time Ring anomaly hardly being referenced, it makes me wonder if that first battle will be "skipped" and everyone heads straight to Goku Black.

Toyotaro's Black already has Goku's abilities, so that's totally plausible.

[ekrolo2]

Super Saiyan 2 seems to bring back all the weaknesses that Super Saiyan had before it was mastered.

I'm not sure how true that is. While 2 doesn't have many fights, the fact Goku and Vegeta can go at it for a while and beat the shit out of one another without putting a dent in Goku's available time on Earth definitely says it's not THAT costly. Him just transforming into 3 robbed him of almost all his time.

If it does have weakness', it's most assuredly easier to bring it to a "mastered" state. 3 doesn't even seem attainable unless you're a fusion or dead.

[THEGOKU]

Super Saiyan 2 seems to bring back all the weaknesses that Super Saiyan had before it was mastered.

I'm not sure how true that is. While 2 doesn't have many fights, the fact Goku and Vegeta can go at it for a while and beat the shit out of one another without putting a dent in Goku's available time on Earth definitely says it's not THAT costly. Him just transforming into 3 robbed him of almost all his time.

If it does have weakness', it's most assuredly easier to bring it to a "mastered" state. 3 doesn't even seem attainable unless you're a fusion or dead.

I mean we never really got an explanation how he came to get 3 other than training but I am sure by now especially since he wanted to use it on Beerus when he first met him. This is really one that is tough and up in the air because there is a lot of IFs about how it works.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Super Saiyan 2 seems to bring back all the weaknesses that Super Saiyan had before it was mastered.

I'm not sure how true that is. While 2 doesn't have many fights, the fact Goku and Vegeta can go at it for a while and beat the shit out of one another without putting a dent in Goku's available time on Earth definitely says it's not THAT costly. Him just transforming into 3 robbed him of almost all his time.

If it does have weakness', it's most assuredly easier to bring it to a "mastered" state. 3 doesn't even seem attainable unless you're a fusion or dead.

Super Saiyan 2 appears to bring back the brutal nature that Super Saiyan gave before its mastery (it was also confirmed in an anime guidebook), and it also drains ki according to Toriyama, which is apparent in Goku's & Vegeta's fight where they get very tired after a short fight. It doesn't drain as much ki as SS3 or the Grade forms though.

Super Saiyan 3 is special, it doesn't just drain ki, it rapidly drains every kind of energy the user has after a few minutes, like Fusion time or the time a dead person has in the Living World.

[ryou766]

I'm itching for the next chapter. When could we expect it to release?

[VegettoEX]

V-Jump is released on the 21st of each month, barring a Sunday or holiday, in which case it gets moved up slightly. The November 2016 issue will be out September 21.

[ryou766]

V-Jump is released on the 21st of each month, barring a Sunday or holiday, in which case it gets moved up slightly. The November 2016 issue will be out September 21.

Interesting to hear. Thanks for the info.

[OLKv3]

V-Jump is released on the 21st of each month, barring a Sunday or holiday, in which case it gets moved up slightly. The November 2016 issue will be out September 21.

Interesting to hear. Thanks for the info.

Which means it'll most likely be leaked tomorrow or Saturday

[VegettoEX]

Leaks are not part of the question, and shouldn't be part of the discussion. The content and official release dates are.

[YonedgeHP]

Dragon Ball Super chapter 16 revealed, leaks are coming soon.

[ailema88]

OMG it's a matter of time, we won't have episode this week but at least we will have manga

[Grimlock]

And hopefully the manga will be extended once again. If it covers just one episode yet again, that'd be disappointing.

[ryou766]

Look at that sexy Goku Black, I'm anxiously waiting.

[Xeztin]

Dang, chapter 16 already?

[alakazam^]

I didn't start that conversation at all, get your facts straight. Nor did I say one was better than the other. Seriously what is your problem?????? I know Toriyama is God around here but all I said was there's a chance he didn't put as much time or work or practice into his manga especially when he admits to that himself! That's all. My entire point is that there's a chance that he didn't do his best work because he by his own admission doesn't seem to be very disciplined. AT NO POINT DID I SAY TORIYAMA WAS A WORSE ARTIST OR A BAD ARTIST. Serious what's your people's problem and obsession with Toriyama!?!?

How about you calm down? I didn't say none of that so maybe you should follow your own advice.

With the Time Ring anomaly hardly being referenced, it makes me wonder if that first battle will be "skipped" and everyone heads straight to Goku Black.

Black going to the past is what makes them investigate Zamasu so that probably is part of Toriyama's plot.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Dang, chapter 16 already?

Once a month, like always. Hoping that it's a good one.

[ryou766]

I tend to listen to tracks from the anime while reading the new chapters, makes the experience better for me.