"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[Baggie_Saiyan]

The unofficial nickname for Dragon Ball Super is "Dragon Ball Member Berries"

Honestly was sick of all the Z throwbacks and flashbacks in broth the Anime and Manga. Luckily it hasn't been as bad in this arc and if they keep it like this only throwing the odd homage here and there that should be okay. Homages are meant to be special and it got to point where they weren't. "Oh look I'm posing Vegeta and Goku like the Saiyan arc go me." , "oh look we're getting Picoyo to sacrifice himself for Gohan, go us!!".

I guess even with reveal of the logo it isn't all surprising we got constant call backs to Z within the show and Manga, but as I said they toned it down this arc and is letting Super be it's own thing.

Super is a continuation of Dragonball.
It is expected to show flashbacks for that sake.

Flashbacks okay within reason even then Z was a continuation of DB and how many flashback did we get there? But anyway I'm moreso talking about homages where sometimes it's almost a play by play on Z. That is not okay, do creative things!

[TheMikado]

Even though I'm sure he appreciates both adaptations, I at times wonder which version does Toriyama prefer more, the anime or manga? I have a hunch that it might be the manga.

I think most people would choose manga, since its easier to go through then so many episodes.

That's also a bet I'd be willing to take.

[kinisking]

Just noticed yet another callback.
[spoiler][/spoiler]

I noticed that too. Gohan was smart enough to break the sword though. Wonder why trunks didn't.

[ryou766]

I noticed that too. Gohan was smart enough to break the sword though. Wonder why trunks didn't.

Possibly because Toyotaro didn't want it to be THAT similar to the original manga. But it's strange, since Dabra isn't seen with his sword in the next page afterwards.

That being said, I have no problem with parallels here and there, just be sure it's done differently.

[kinisking]

I noticed that too. Gohan was smart enough to break the sword though. Wonder why trunks didn't.

Possibly because Toyotaro didn't want it to be THAT similar to the original manga. But it's strange, since Dabra isn't seen with his sword in the next page afterwards.

That being said, I have no problem with parallels here and there, just be sure it's done differently.

Tototaro doesn't seem to have any problems copying the hell out of the original manga. I mean these can barely be considered homages, it's more like he can't think of his own material because of time or lack of creativity. The anime does a much better job with parallels.

[ryou766]

I don't pay as much attention to the anime as I do the manga. There were parallels in the anime?

[LightBing]

Tototaro doesn't seem to have any problems copying the hell out of the original manga. I mean these can barely be considered homages, it's more like he can't think of his own material because of time or lack of creativity. The anime does a much better job with parallels.

I disagree.
While Toyotarõ does abuse on the callbacks, they are for the most part homages, which take at most a page for chapter. The rest is original to him.
The anime literally copies plot points from the original manga, going way beyond simple homages. Like Piccolo sacrificing himself for Gohan and Vegeta identical Final Flash against Magetta, to the first time he used it in the manga.

I wish both medium's would be courageous and space the callbacks reasonably, trusting in their own material. To me, this exaggerated rate of callbacks is a proof of everyone's fear to try new things.

For me the best callback in the manga is Vegeta using the same attack which killed Nappa against Cabba, demonstrating the long road he walked since those days. Making a great parallel.
The worst, easily Frost copying Freeza poses. It just makes it even more difficult to think of the character as different, if it even bloody does the same as the other one. This callback further contributed to associate Frost as a boring Freeza copy, who stole way too much screen/panel time.

[Hellspawn28]

Tototaro has been known to trace scenes from the manga before. Even his AF manga has several tracing scenes. I feel like Future Dabra killing Future Kibito did remind me of this scene from his AF manga.

[TheMikado]

So watching the anime it looks like Whis uses his time rewind ability, but it seems like the manga specifically stated something that makes me think it won't be used in the manga. Thoughts?

[fadeddreams5]

So watching the anime it looks like Whis uses his time rewind ability, but it seems like the manga specifically stated something that makes me think it won't be used in the manga. Thoughts?

I believe he said in the manga he wouldn't be able to use it for some time.

Well, some time has passed. =P

[Sandubadear]

So watching the anime it looks like Whis uses his time rewind ability, but it seems like the manga specifically stated something that makes me think it won't be used in the manga. Thoughts?

I believe he said in the manga he wouldn't be able to use it for some time.

Well, some time has passed. =P

Yes, but he says that just before Trunks arrived, and only a few days passed from then.

[fadeddreams5]

So watching the anime it looks like Whis uses his time rewind ability, but it seems like the manga specifically stated something that makes me think it won't be used in the manga. Thoughts?

I believe he said in the manga he wouldn't be able to use it for some time.

Well, some time has passed. =P

Yes, but he says that just before Trunks arrived, and only a few days passed from then.

Well, a few days does count as some time. ^.^

[TheMikado]

True, but it seems odd to specifically mention that unless the author knew there was a scenario coming up where it looked like rewinding time would have helped

[batistabus]

I don't think we'll be seeing the do-over in the manga. If we do...that's just weird writing.

[TheMikado]

I don't think we'll be seeing the do-over in the manga. If we do...that's just weird writing.

I agree, but specifically referencing why he can't use it leads me to think that if toyble doesn't use it, he already knew about that specific part in the anime when he made the manga explain why Whis won't be using that technique.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

The manga doesn't have to use the Time Rewind plot point, but I don't see a problem if it does.

Actually, since Resurrection "F" was skipped in the manga, this might actually Toyotaro's foreshadowing its future use. Whis doesn't say he can't currently use it. When Bluma asks him about it, he simply confirms that he did use it and explains how it works for the first time in this adaptation, which includes the recharge mention. That could possibly be setting up another future plot point (or was just done to raise tension) after the Gowasu bit since Whis has already wasted it. That's just speculation on my part though.

[Herms]

I believe he said in the manga he wouldn't be able to use it for some time.

No, he says that after using the technique, he can't use it again for some time. He says nothing about currently being unable to use it. It's the difference between saying "I can't swim an hour after eating" and "I just ate and therefore cannot swim for the next hour".

At any rate, there's no specific timeframe mentioned for how long the technique takes to "recharge", but I assume this rule was mentioned to establish that Whis can't spam this technique the same way you can spam a ki blast or something like that.

[Sandubadear]

I believe he said in the manga he wouldn't be able to use it for some time.

No, he says that after using the technique, he can't use it again for some time. He says nothing about currently being unable to use it. It's the difference between saying "I can't swim an hour after eating" and "I just ate and therefore cannot swim for the next hour".

At any rate, there's no specific timeframe mentioned for how long the technique takes to "recharge", but I assume this rule was mentioned to establish that Whis can't spam this technique the same way you can spam a ki blast or something like that.

So this is a mistranslation?
[spoiler][/spoiler]
Thanks for clearing that doubt.

[Nejishiki]

The manga panel and the description Herms provided essentially mean the same thing. The recharge period isn't specified, but it's established that he can't reverse time for awhile after doing so once.

[Sandubadear]

The manga panel and the description Herms provided essentially mean the same thing. The recharge period isn't specified, but it's established that he can't reverse time for awhile after doing so once.

"I won't have it available to use it for a good while now." implies he still can't use it as of the beginning of the Trunks arc. Herms said that he doesn't say that in Japanese, so it is a mistranslation.