The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:19 pm

Full Power Perfect Cell VS Kamiccolo + Kamiccolo Potara Fusion (Yes, that's two freshly reunited Kami and Piccolo fused with another one)

Fangs the Vampire VS Giran (No merry-go-round gum)
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Zamasu55 » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:16 pm

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TheUltimateNinja wrote:SSBlue Gogetto (Gogeta + Vegetto fusion) vs Beerus
Seeing as I place SSJBKKx10 Goku above Beerus already, there's no way Gogetto could possibly lose. Beerus is blinked out of existence.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Zamasu55 » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:17 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Zamasu55 wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote: Really? Is Beerus that powerful? Let's assume Gogeta is 20x Goku and Vegetto is 100x Goku, and after they fuse they become 1,000x Goku and then they use Kkx10 to become 10,000x SSBlue Goku.

Is Beerus really more than 10,000x stronger than SSBlue Goku?
We don't even know how much % was Beerus using against Ssj God Goku.
He says he can easily destroy Future Zamasu, an immortal being.
I repeat myself, unless it's shown otherwise in the next episodes, I'll still consider Beerus and Whis stronger than a fusion.
How about Vhigetto (Vhis (Vados + Whis) + Gogetto fusion) vs Beerus.
Whis one shots. :lol:

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:30 pm

How about Cheerugetto (Champa + Beerus + Gogetto fusion) vs Whis.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:32 pm

Angelus wrote:Full Power Perfect Cell VS Kamiccolo + Kamiccolo Potara Fusion (Yes, that's two freshly reunited Kami and Piccolo fused with another one)
Kamiccolo effortlessly destroys hm.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:36 pm

Here's a little DB match up:

Fangs the Vampire VS Giran (No merry-go-round gum)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Alruneia » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:53 pm

Charus vs Whis and Vados
Charus is a Potara fusion of Champa and Beerus (he's built like Super Buu if you were wondering). Whis and Vados are working together and are allowed to use any and all techniques (look at Fusions and Xenoverse if you need their moves. We'll say they have the same moveset, and that they can combine their attacks similar to how Black and Zamasu does it in Super), including reversing time, except for fusion. Who do you think will win, and how much effort does it take?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TobyS » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:58 pm

ZombieVito wrote:New fights. All from the left are from the Mecha Freeza arc.

Vegeta vs Goku [vs Freeza, No KK]
Piccolo vs Vegeta [Post Dende Zenkai].
Gohan vs Freeza [1st form].
Kuririn vs Goku [vs Ginyu, No KK].
Tenshinhan vs Jeice.
Yamcha vs Zarbon [Transformed].
Chiaotzu vs Cui.
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Piccolo (wasn't that far behind at the time and had an entire year)
Freeza or Gohan with a rage boost maybe?
Not sure how close Kuririn last bp was to that, if Kuririn was 70% of it @freeza then he's surpassed it with a whole year to train.
Ten had Kaio training starting at a higher PL than Goku did, and a whole additional year.
Yamcha easily, he's not far behind Ten but zarbon is way behind Jheese.
Chaozu isn't that far behind Yamcha, all four humans are close, except for maybe Kuririn if you think Guru boosted him years ahead. Cui is nothing after Kaio training and a year or so's time.

There's huge gaps between Ginyus-zarbon/dod-Cui/vegeta but the gaps between humans are.

Whichever league the weakest is in, they all are in IMO. Chaozu doesn't fall noticeably behind till Androids IMO, and even then that was mostly Ten being protective IMO.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:20 pm

Alruneia wrote:Charus vs Whis and Vados
Charus is a Potara fusion of Champa and Beerus (he's built like Super Buu if you were wondering). Whis and Vados are working together and are allowed to use any and all techniques (look at Fusions and Xenoverse if you need their moves. We'll say they have the same moveset, and that they can combine their attacks similar to how Black and Zamasu does it in Super), including reversing time, except for fusion. Who do you think will win, and how much effort does it take?
Whis and Vados stomp with medium effort.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:21 pm

Majin Blue (Buu w/ Bluegeta and Blueku absorbed) vs Beerus.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by nickzambuto » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:08 pm

Cyborg Tao vs Drum.

Personally I put the two on the same level. Tao was already a legendary martial artist, but Tenshinhan and Goku, as prodigies of the next generation, had clearly surpassed his capabilities by the 22nd Budokai. Tao and Crane both should have had a good grasp on Ten's strength at the very least, he was virtually at the apex of human potential, and they knew he had trained for three more years after that. So in order for Tao to have been so confident that he was stronger than Tenshinhan and Goku, he must have gone passed human limits and reached a level of power beyond the apex of human potential, a level that humans aren't supposed to be able to reach, if that makes sense, that next level being demon-level strength.

Of course as we know, Tenshinhan isn't constrained to the confines of human limits as Tao knows it, because he's a super-prodigy of the next generation. Tao was of the last generation. So putting Cyborg Tao on the level of Drum, that level being beyond Tao's natural limits, really puts into perspective the natural potential of this next generation of martial artists, since all three of them (Ten, Krillin, and Yamcha) have been able to surpass the power of the Demon King himself by this point.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Anime Kitten » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:18 pm

Alruneia wrote:Charus vs Whis and Vados
Whis and Vados do as much as their ability lets them, but Charus mostly avoids or blocks their attacks. The weaker ones he simply takes. Eventually, Charus decides to launch a super-powered Sphere of Destruction that collides with a combined attack from Whis and Vados. The outcome is unknown, as neither were ever seen again. :P
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Roronoa-pt » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:46 am

Present Yajirobe vs Future Yajirobe
Sorbet vs Muten Roshi ( Roshi is aware that Sorbet has a OP laser ring )
Chaozu & Tenshinhan's combined Dodonpa vs Kuririn & Yamcha's combined Kamehameha ( All the humans have the same power level )
Gohan ( DBS after the training with Piccolo ) vs Magetta

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:06 am

Roronoa-pt wrote:Chaozu & Tenshinhan's combined Dodonpa vs Kuririn & Yamcha's combined Kamehameha ( All the humans have the same power level )
Tien and Chiaotzu should win if all have equal power level. I think it was Roshi that mentioned that the Kamehameha was an inferior move compared to the Dodonpa in the 22nd WMAT. Although he might also just meant a newly-learned Kamehameha

Here's a versus. What if SSJ Goten and Trunks actually made it to Babidi's space ship and Dabura was sent out to fight them both.. and Android 17 happened to be around
[Assume, for this match, that Gohan wasn't SSJ2 when he fought Dabura]

Dabura VS Android 17, and 25th WMAT SSJ Goten and Trunks. No stone spit or sword.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:13 pm

Angelus wrote:Full Power Perfect Cell VS Kamiccolo + Kamiccolo Potara Fusion (Yes, that's two freshly reunited Kami and Piccolo fused with another one)

Fangs the Vampire VS Giran (No merry-go-round gum)
- I personally think that if clone-type characters, like the Saibaimen or the Cell Juniors, fused with each other, they wouldn't get very strong at all. Sorta like how having kids with your relatives would be a bad idea. With that in mind, the fused Piccolo would be slightly over twice as powerful as he originally was, and gets wrecked by Cell's Semi-perfect form.

- Giran likely has a strength advantage, but that's about it. Dracula-man is faster, can transform into a smaller, hard-to-hit target, and drink the opponents blood. I suspect that the result would be much the same as when Kuririn fought the vampire.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:16 pm

Angelus wrote:
Roronoa-pt wrote:Chaozu & Tenshinhan's combined Dodonpa vs Kuririn & Yamcha's combined Kamehameha ( All the humans have the same power level )
Tien and Chiaotzu should win if all have equal power level. I think it was Roshi that mentioned that the Kamehameha was an inferior move compared to the Dodonpa in the 22nd WMAT. Although he might also just meant a newly-learned Kamehameha

Here's a versus. What if SSJ Goten and Trunks actually made it to Babidi's space ship and Dabura was sent out to fight them both.. and Android 17 happened to be around
[Assume, for this match, that Gohan wasn't SSJ2 when he fought Dabura]

Dabura VS Android 17, and 25th WMAT SSJ Goten and Trunks. No stone spit or sword.
Dabra is strong enough to make a Super Saiyan Gohan struggle against him. Goten and Trunks are much weaker and much less skilled than he was. Android 17 is likely even weaker than the kids, and Dabra spanks them all easily.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Analytic » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:41 pm

Angelus wrote:Dabura VS Android 17, and 25th WMAT SSJ Goten and Trunks. No stone spit or sword.
I'm not sure what Android #17 is doing here, but given that Goten alone gave Gohan more difficulty in hand-to-hand fighting than Dabra did, I would say that Goten and Trunks together would overwhelm Dabra without too much difficulty.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:49 pm

Analytic wrote:I'm not sure what Android #17 is doing here, but given that Goten alone gave Gohan more difficulty in hand-to-hand fighting than Dabra did, I would say that Goten and Trunks together would overwhelm Dabra without too much difficulty.
Are you sure about that? Disregarding the differences between sparring and fighting, Gohan was on the losing end of his fight with Dabra. While he wasn't completely outclassed, Gohan was clearly struggling and Dabra wasn't.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbgtFO » Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:11 pm

DanielSSJ wrote:
Analytic wrote:I'm not sure what Android #17 is doing here, but given that Goten alone gave Gohan more difficulty in hand-to-hand fighting than Dabra did, I would say that Goten and Trunks together would overwhelm Dabra without too much difficulty.
Are you sure about that? Disregarding the differences between sparring and fighting, Gohan was on the losing end of his fight with Dabra. While he wasn't completely outclassed, Gohan was clearly struggling and Dabra wasn't.
As far as hand to hand fighting he's right. Gohan had the upper hand initially then Dabra used his magic tricks to get around that, succesfully putting some pressure on Gohan.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by buutenks » Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:19 pm

Alruneia wrote:Charus vs Whis and Vados
Charus is a Potara fusion of Champa and Beerus (he's built like Super Buu if you were wondering). Whis and Vados are working together and are allowed to use any and all techniques (look at Fusions and Xenoverse if you need their moves. We'll say they have the same moveset, and that they can combine their attacks similar to how Black and Zamasu does it in Super), including reversing time, except for fusion. Who do you think will win, and how much effort does it take?

I doubt any fusion of Beerus and Champa would be able to take both of them head on. Perhaps fused Beerus and Champa vs Whis or Vados would be interesting. But them double teaming Charus is a stomp.

Beerus started out at being 40% stronger than ssg, now he is much much more stronger. Who knows how much stronger Whis and Vados have gotten.
Angelus wrote: Dabura VS Android 17, and 25th WMAT SSJ Goten and Trunks. No stone spit or sword.
Android 17 is useless here, he gets blown up by Dabura same way as kibito got blown up.

While they might not appear to be strong, ssj Goten gave Gohan trouble, so he was close to fpssj Gohan in power. And ssj kid Trunks managed to actually hit a serious ssj Vegeta, who no doubt was stronger than fpssj adult Gohan.

So, considering no spit or sword, i say after a tough battle, they can take Dabura out if they dont screw around. Ofc with spit allowed, Dabura easily wins.

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