"Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

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Post by kbrooksgohan » Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:13 am

Goku Black is a complete letdown for me. People try to say he SHOULD fight like Goku and if they watch the anime they would know he DOES have some of Goku's super attacks but he also uses his own attacks( melee and blasts). He used some of his own super moves before even going Rose. What about the big yellow blast he used to push back Goku? Or other the yellow blast he always uses? Or how about the fact that his melee style was very brutal? He took his body but he's NOT Goku. He had that big Super Wind/Kiai Cannon move. I guess they thought shockwave would suffice? That is NOT the same thing. Looks nothing like it. I wish they would have put the same effort they used with some of the newer characters on Black. Turles is PERFECT. Fights and sounds just like the anime. Janemba is pretty much perfect. That's one thing that bothers me with Dimps. The quality goes from being awesome to being sub-par.


They gave him one ultimate and completely ignored the Yellow Blast. They gave him breakstrike as an evasive move and his throw is the same as Goku. For people who say he SHOULD fight like Goku I don't agree at all. After going rose and even before that he did display some of Goku's techniques however imo he should have his own melee,stance, evasive move, throw, and more than one ultimate. Black had a regal stance with his hands behind his back. Like a god. In the game he's stands just like Goku. That's incorrect. Maybe they made him before they knew anything about his character? Idk...but they need to fix this later.

Now, idk what they are going to do for DLC but if they add Rose(most likely) and maybe even Zamasu I hope they at least make a new Goku Black base form. I wouldn't mind if Zamasu had a Goku Black skin or if they revamped Black with new more brutal melee. To me he should be completely merciless and brutal and he should have Zamasu's animations mixed with Goku's. He needs his own throw,evasive move,etc. I hope they won't just add Rose and give him new moves and then keep the same Goku melee animations. Imo that's a big cop out. We have enough Goku clones on the roster. Black should be unique with and without Rose.

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Post by Tsufuru » Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:17 am

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The amount isn't bad and the overall roster is a good size. There just needed to be more variety with the new additions because 90% of these new characters have been in plenty of games already.

Why couldn't they have included the likes of Kami, Mr Popo, King Kai, Sorbet, Ledgic, Sigma Cannon, Olibu, Chilled, Dr Raichi, Paragus etc

It's been forever since they've had characters like Tapion, Uub, King Piccolo, King Cold or Pikkon too.
lol the only characters worth playing are tapion , pikkon and ledgic from your list.

it seems ppl just want more characters for sake of....i dont know....a big roster.
i want to know how many characters in BT3 were touched no more than 3 times.
I would use all those characters, I'm sure others would too. It's not just about playing as the character though, it's about getting to fight them as well. I'm sick of fighting the same villains every game.

Also I'm pretty sure even you would want King Cold in the game.
i did use cold at most 5 times in BT3 after that he was pretty much just there.
yh, i agree with the point about fighting them didnt think of that.

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Post by Tsufuru » Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:22 am

I'm sry if i did sound like an asshole or something but i dont like how it seems ppl care about characters more than everything.

i mean if they told me would you rather have spiky hair for ssj and extra options for CaC or tapion , king cold , legdic etc. i would choose the former.

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Post by Sshadow5001 » Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:33 am

I like having more characters if it means I can have their abilities for my character.
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Post by MCDaveG » Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:40 am

Tsufuru wrote:I'm sry if i did sound like an asshole or something but i dont like how it seems ppl care about characters more than everything.

i mean if they told me would you rather have spiky hair for ssj and extra options for CaC or tapion , king cold , legdic etc. i would choose the former.
It's just opinions, I just don't understand why is anyone so overblown about cosmetic hair detail.
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Post by ekrolo2 » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:23 am

And people are already getting into arguments over Sean's Black voice :P

Honestly, if you're fine with Freeza and Cell not sounding like they're chewing rocks, I think we can safely drop this whole "growly" voice thing for a bad guy.
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Post by HeroR » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:39 am

Not sure how you can judged Black's voice. I could barely hear it over the music and Goku's screaming.
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Post by Nekis13 » Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:35 am

kbrooksgohan wrote: Maybe they made him before they knew anything about his character?
This seems to be case in my opinion, I mean. How early did they confirm Black was gonna be in the game anyways? I think Super was just in the early episodes of the F.Trunks arc.
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Post by Dbzfan94 » Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:36 am

Nekis13 wrote:
kbrooksgohan wrote: Maybe they made him before they knew anything about his character?
This seems to be case in my opinion, I mean. How early did they confirm Black was gonna be in the game anyways? I think Super was just in the early episodes of the F.Trunks arc.
Yeah, they announced Black around the time they showed the original promo art of the Trunks arc. It even uses the same promo image of Black

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Post by Kanassa » Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:46 am

[spoiler]Damn, this game gets emotional...[/spoiler]
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:42 pm

Man, Sean's Goku Black voice sounds... unfitting, to say the very least. I did wonder if he would take the gruff, baritone direction that he took with SSJ4 in GT, and it seems like he did with Goku Black. Hate to say it, but it really doesn't mesh with the character's persona presented in the show. It sounds like he's angry and frustrated 24/7, when it's actuality, Goku Black is far more calm and sophisticated even if he's in a situation that may seem to threaten his well being. I hope Sean takes a different direction with how he voices Goku Black in Super because I really wouldn't prefer for Goku Black to sound like this when Super eventually gets dubbed. Because if Goku Black does sound like this gruff, baritone and grizzled hardman that always seem annoyed, then I may be tempted to watch the Future Trunks arc in its entirety subbed considering how much screen-time Goku Black gets, especially in key moments in the arc.

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Post by Xaroc » Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:22 pm

Also listened to Gokuu Burakus english voice. THAT's why I ALWAYS use the japanese voices option. Always fitting, always the right lines and no mistranslations or censorship. I mean Burakus japanese voice is so "utsukushī" (beautiful). Typical Gokuu voice, just more silent and calm yet threatening at the same time. And I always liked Vegetas japanese "Oh...?" when he was sarcastically complimenting his enemy (PQ "Let's train!": Vegeta after reducing his health (japanese): "Oh...? Looks like you can manage. I'll go all out for a bit so you'll regret it.").
I mean I'm used to the german dub in the anime anyway and was confused when I played Budokai 1 for the first time with japanese voices (only option here) but even more so about Budokai 2 with english voices. I was surprised to find out that appoximately 90% of the characters are voiced by the same guy (no offense to him, he didn't decide that he has to voice almost everyone and besides he DOES a good job changing his voice and all). Still, it seemed boring and uncreativ (yes I know that all Gokuu familiy members (except for Radditz) are voiced by the same woman, but it still fits).
So I stuck with japanese (even more so since I'm watching the anime (DB, DBZ, DBGT, DBS) completely in japanese). Why change that now if one of the greatest villains of the series sounds already perfect in the original dub?

(And no offense to anyone. I don't judge people for liking the english dub. This is merely my opinion about what I prefer, nothing more, nothing less.)
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Post by dualist » Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:14 pm

Zenkashuu wrote:
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Bullza wrote:The amount isn't bad and the overall roster is a good size. There just needed to be more variety with the new additions because 90% of these new characters have been in plenty of games already.

Why couldn't they have included the likes of Kami, Mr Popo, King Kai, Sorbet, Ledgic, Sigma Cannon, Olibu, Chilled, Dr Raichi, Paragus etc

It's been forever since they've had characters like Tapion, Uub, King Piccolo, King Cold or Pikkon too.
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lol the only characters worth playing are tapion , pikkon and ledgic from your list.

it seems ppl just want more characters for sake of....i dont know....a big roster.
i want to know how many characters in BT3 were touched no more than 3 times.
I like how you state your opinion as a fact. Did we all agree who is worthy or not?
Right! I'm not even trippin off the roster, but I would like more characters to fight against as well. More villains to kinda make my own story within the game when Parallel quest start to get weary.
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Post by Sailor Haumea » Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:21 pm

You know what'd be really cool?

If at the end of the story arc that's ongoing with Online, Heroes, and the Xenoverse series in regards to Bardock, Towa and Mira give him a memory wipe of his time with them and drop him off on Planet Plant in the distant past.

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Post by simtek34 » Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:29 pm

I was watching some gameplay of the Xenoverse 2 Beerus Saga, and I noticed that Goku kept switching from the turtle hermet gi with the turtle symbol and belt, to the go gi with the sash back and forth.

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Post by Sailor Haumea » Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:32 pm

Why does the Xenoverse series hate Frieza's 2nd/3rd forms and Semi-Perfect Cell?

Is it too much to ask for a Xenoverse game with a roster on par with BT3?
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Post by THEGOKU » Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:42 pm

Curious direction he went with Black's voice but I'm not going to say I hate it. I think when he gets down to it we will see that in Super it will be better but it probably won't match Masako's version of it. Which different audience so it doesn't need to be the same but at least close enough to the character. If people complain about that how about Freeza's Japanese voice compared to the English dub. They sound very different. It's never goindg to be perfect harmony.

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Post by SSJ.Natto » Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:45 pm

Xaroc wrote:Also listened to Gokuu Burakus english voice. THAT's why I ALWAYS use the japanese voices option. Always fitting, always the right lines and no mistranslations or censorship. I mean Burakus japanese voice is so "utsukushī" (beautiful). Typical Gokuu voice, just more silent and calm yet threatening at the same time. And I always liked Vegetas japanese "Oh...?" when he was sarcastically complimenting his enemy (PQ "Let's train!": Vegeta after reducing his health (japanese): "Oh...? Looks like you can manage. I'll go all out for a bit so you'll regret it.").
I mean I'm used to the german dub in the anime anyway and was confused when I played Budokai 1 for the first time with japanese voices (only option here) but even more so about Budokai 2 with english voices. I was surprised to find out that appoximately 90% of the characters are voiced by the same guy (no offense to him, he didn't decide that he has to voice almost everyone and besides he DOES a good job changing his voice and all). Still, it seemed boring and uncreativ (yes I know that all Gokuu familiy members (except for Radditz) are voiced by the same woman, but it still fits).
So I stuck with japanese (even more so since I'm watching the anime (DB, DBZ, DBGT, DBS) completely in japanese). Why change that now if one of the greatest villains of the series sounds already perfect in the original dub?

(And no offense to anyone. I don't judge people for liking the english dub. This is merely my opinion about what I prefer, nothing more, nothing less.)
I feel you man! I grew with the Portuguese voices, since I'm Brazilian and I love them. Still, unlike saint seiya, they never dubbed any dragon ball game here. In between the English and the Japanese voices, I prefer Japanese for almost all characters except for Goku.

With all due respect to nozawa... I find her voice kind of unfitting for Goku, maybe because Brazilian dub was much more... Male-like? And much more serious.

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Post by Nightmare Wheel » Sat Oct 22, 2016 3:34 pm

Sailor Haumea wrote:Is it too much to ask for a Xenoverse game with a roster on par with BT3?
It kind of is, actually. Development costs skyrocketed last generation and it's much more time consuming just to make one character model these days. Not to mention Xenoverse has significantly more content than the sparse offerings of BT3, which fell short of even its own predecessor. Not to mention an even greater amount of asset reuse in Tenkaichi. You ever notice that almost all of the beam attacks in that game are exactly the same except for color?

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Post by Sailor Haumea » Sat Oct 22, 2016 3:35 pm

Nightmare Wheel wrote:
Sailor Haumea wrote:Is it too much to ask for a Xenoverse game with a roster on par with BT3?
It kind of is, actually. Development costs skyrocketed last generation and it's much more time consuming just to make one character model these days. Not to mention Xenoverse has significantly more content than the sparse offerings of BT3, which fell short of even its own predecessor. Not to mention an even greater amount of asset reuse in Tenkaichi. You ever notice that almost all of the beam attacks in that game are exactly the same except for color?
Yikes.

Will we eventually see a Xenoverse game with a roster the size of BT3's?
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