Xeztin wrote:Well shoot, I liked the original better. I have a feeling the anime and all will be different from the original, soundtracks and all if they are even changing the logo.
From all appearances, this doesn't seem to be a case of a local license-holder making changes, a la FUNimation's GT logo, but rather Toei coming up with different assets for the international market.
Anyway, I still like this newer logo better, between the two.
The Alien Barbarian scenario is done waay better in the manga than in the anime
[spoiler]In the manga it's shown that after 1000 years the Barbarians had developed a hirachy with an elder they respected enough to stop their senseless violence. Unfortunately Zamasu didn't see this as he and Gowasu were attacked by the Barbarian in the same fashion as it was in the anime.
I like how it makes Zamasu's thoughts about humans blatantly wrong[/spoiler]
Bullza wrote:If Goku and Vegeta re gonna fuse then it's a shame they didn't keep their Resurrection F outfits as it would have been a different look for the character.
It's still going to be as Vegeta is wearing his armor, unlike the Buu arc.
Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
But that's not the case. The 12 universes are different locations, not different dimensions. Anything else would result in the time-travel equivalent of a major syntax error.
I mean: that fact didn't affect to universe 7 and universe 10 in the sense that the things would happen in the same way in both timelines.
But it appears that U7 was affected. Before Trunks' time travels, we had 3 timelines:
Timeline A
Timeline B
Timeline C (Trunks' timeline)
After Trunks' time travels, a fourth one was created:
Timeline A
Timeline B
Timeline C (Trunks' timeline)
Timeline D (series timeline)
But Timelines A & B should also have a Trunks that time traveled, so Timelines E & F should have been created as well. So, in these Timelines, Bulma didn't create a time machine (if she even existed).
Yes, but what if Trunks from A timeline went to Timeline B already created by universe 12 traveller?
That timeline was created in the past, Trunks trip didn't create it, only travelled through the way that u12 traveller left.
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Hmm Cipher and Ajay might be right on second look the US logo doesn't look too bad actually...
Yeah, it's kinda starting to grow on me too. But I still prefer the original logo.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Does anyone else think Toyotaro had Goku fight 4th Form Freeza with Super Saiyan God before going to Blue in his hypothetical Super F?
When Goku uses it at the tournament, none of the people who were usually present for the battle react at all to Goku being able to use God, save for Goten and Trunks who, even in Super, were told to buzz off before the final battle and were completely excluded from the movie version.
For his promotional manga of the movie, Toyotaro also treated Goku's base form as just being absorbed SSGod given the small flash of God we see when he rushes Whis. Is it far fetched to assume he would've just had God Goku fight 4th Form Freeza to keep the powers between arcs consistent?
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
Spoiler:
Absolute Zamasu(my name for their fusion) wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness(x amount of time for this to happen). He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Absolute Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness(mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
Really interesting and sheds some more light into what his role in adapting Toriyama's plot is.
Nothing really new. This just confirms that Toriyama's plot outline is extremely basic and Toyotaro has to fill in the blinks when reaching point A to point B in the overall plot of an given arc. So in reality, the manga isn't any more faithful to Toriyama's plot outline than the Super anime is, or vice versa. The writing team for the anime and Toyotoro both have to be very creative when filling in the blanks from one major plot point to another.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Chuquita wrote:Put my pre-order in for volume 2 of the manga.
I've learned my lesson about how fast pre-orders run out.
Anyone knows how often Volume 1 was sold? I read something with 30,000 copies in April and position 25 (or like this).
In September I was in Osaka and it was hard to get Volume 1 - sold out almost everywhere I went. Luckily I finally found one store with two last copies left.
ekrolo2 wrote:Does anyone else think Toyotaro had Goku fight 4th Form Freeza with Super Saiyan God before going to Blue in his hypothetical Super F?
When Goku uses it at the tournament, none of the people who were usually present for the battle react at all to Goku being able to use God, save for Goten and Trunks who, even in Super, were told to buzz off before the final battle and were completely excluded from the movie version.
For his promotional manga of the movie, Toyotaro also treated Goku's base form as just being absorbed SSGod given the small flash of God we see when he rushes Whis. Is it far fetched to assume he would've just had God Goku fight 4th Form Freeza to keep the powers between arcs consistent?
Probably. Toyotaro seems to have scratched the whole "Goku absorbed the God power into his base form" that Toriyama introduced in BoG and F. Even Toriyama seems to have regretted it. It isn't showcased in either the Champa or Black arc in the manga or anime. The only times where Goku's base form was ridiculously powerful are the movie rehash arcs and the Copy-Vegeta filler, which were all Toei originals.
Omori wrote:In September I was in Osaka and it was hard to get Volume 1 - sold out almost everywhere I went. Luckily I finally found one store with two last copies left.
Similar experience when I went to Japan in April, soon after the volume came out. I had no idea it was so popular, I just assumed I would come across it and buy it whenever, but then I found it was sold out everywhere I checked! Never managed to find it in Japan, so bought it from a local Kinokuniya after returning home. I hope volume 2 will have more copies printed to keep up with demand.
