Akira Toriyama has created his own religion

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Akira Toriyama has created his own religion

Post by Lujin_16 » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:03 pm

1.King of All
2.Priest
3.Angel
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Re: Akira has created his own Religion

Post by emperior » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:09 pm

And it's an awesome religion. Definitely the most believable out there. Gods are actually assholes who don't give a fuck about humans (except for Zamasu)

If we really have gods, they surely are more similar to DB ones than to other religions'
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Re: Akira has created his own Religion

Post by Mazingerdestro » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:35 pm

:O Dragonballism!!!!
Jokes aside in general db has a well developed world. Th only thing we still don't know is why the animals can talk. Also why Beerus said he destroyed the dinosaurs when we still see dinosaurs on earth!!!

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Re: Akira has created his own Religion

Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:11 pm

emperior wrote:And it's an awesome religion. Definitely the most believable out there. Gods are actually assholes who don't give a fuck about humans (except for Zamasu)
I don´t know how wanting to kill all ningens count as giving a fuck about them?
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Re: Akira has created his own Religion

Post by SansrivaaL » Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:32 pm

Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:
emperior wrote:And it's an awesome religion. Definitely the most believable out there. Gods are actually assholes who don't give a fuck about humans (except for Zamasu)
I don´t know how wanting to kill all ningens count as giving a fuck about them?
It actually does, in a twisted cruel way tho. Zamasu Almighty.

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Re: Akira has created his own Religion

Post by precita » Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:35 pm

Weren't there some religious Christian zealots back in the DBZ era who complained about Goku's halo and seeing the afterlife or something? Imagine if Super existed back then with Whis and such?

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Re: Akira has created his own Religion

Post by emperior » Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:04 pm

Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:
emperior wrote:And it's an awesome religion. Definitely the most believable out there. Gods are actually assholes who don't give a fuck about humans (except for Zamasu)
I don´t know how wanting to kill all ningens count as giving a fuck about them?

He does, he wouldn't kill them if he didn't care about them
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Re: Akira has created his own Religion

Post by VegettoEX » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:19 pm

There's nothing especially original about the deity hierarchy that Toriyama has used and expanded upon here in Super (and Battle of Gods before it). He's just taking elements from all sorts of other religions and mythologies and cramming them together with his own original spin. And that's what makes it so much fun: that Toriyama spin on things. Pretty much anything viewed through a Toriyama lens is going to be interesting in some way. It may not be the best or most original idea, but it's always worth taking a look at and having fun with it.
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Post by Pluto » Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:26 pm

The lack of "dogma" presence in DB is something i always adored, and the human (not ningen) position is realistically viewed as insignificant with a pinch of Zen/Buddhism background, although Utopic, so utopic that U7 Earth is so friendly, animals are part of the society.

And the fact that he changes the utopic part in the Universe 6 Earth, shows how he views humanity, U6 Earth story feels like our actual future.

It's also ethic rich, "pride" i.e is shown in many characters, and many times they bloom ahead just when they have to swallow it. Not to forget, nearly all villains are a product of greed.

And yea, obviously, it is not perfect :P.
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Re: Akira has created his own Religion

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:32 pm

VegettoEX wrote:There's nothing especially original about the deity hierarchy that Toriyama has used and expanded upon here in Super (and Battle of Gods before it). He's just taking elements from all sorts of other religions and mythologies and cramming them together with his own original spin. And that's what makes it so much fun: that Toriyama spin on things. Pretty much anything viewed through a Toriyama lens is going to be interesting in some way. It may not be the best or most original idea, but it's always worth taking a look at and having fun with it.
If you want to be really technical, it's not even a religion; it's a cosmic hierarchy. Just throwing in the word "god" every now and then does not make something a religion. Religions require a belief structure, worship, and all that other stuff that Toriyama doesn't delve into at all.
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Re: Akira has created his own Religion

Post by phattangent » Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:53 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:If you want to be really technical, it's not even a religion; it's a cosmic hierarchy. Just throwing in the word "god" every now and then does not make something a religion. Religions require a belief structure, worship, and all that other stuff that Toriyama doesn't delve into at all.
This is exactly what I was thinking. It's almost a cosmic bureaucracy.
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