Gig wrote:Goku using the Turtle logo instead is due to the deeper bond he had with his old master... IMHO.
He's not using the Turtle kanji. He's using his own 悟 (Go).
Is that true? Is it the first time he uses it or has he already used it in the past?
I was sure Goku was using Kame'sennin kanji
Goku hasn't used the 亀 symbol since the JSAT special OR by manga standards, since training on the ship to Namek
Spoiler:
Dragon Ball Episode 14: Goku's Rival wrote:
Muten Roshi: Bring me a Pichi-pichi gal here. Do that, and I can train you
Son Goku: What's a Bitchy bitchy gag?
Dragon Ball Super Chapter 24: Son Goku's Evolution wrote:
Zamasu:What about you?! Are you prepared to kneel before god?
Vegeta: Don't screw with me... I an the Prince of all Saiyans... Even if I have to die... ...I'LL NEVER GIVE UP MY PRIDE!!!
Innagadadavida wrote:I don't really think it's worth getting worked up about. Very soon we will have our own Wiki. And over time, it will be bigger, better, and more accurate than theirs. We'll have standards. We'll have quality control. We'll have better information. And I'm sure, people will naturally gravitate to it once there is some substance.
The best way to fix the giant cancer that is the DB Wiki is to provide an alternative for those who really want it. Even those who prefer dub names will wind up looking things up on the Kanzenshuu Wiki. Because sooner or later, they're going to need information they know they can trust.
penguintruth wrote:"New in 16:9! It's DBZ as you've partially seen it before!"
VegettoEX wrote:Gonna publish a book called “The Kanzenshuu” and it will have 199 blank pages followed by 1 page with text that simply says “nah Goku is gay though”.
Gig wrote:I think they presented them as Whis' students, since when Whis applied his logo to them. Currently, Whis isn't training them anymore (Goku asked Whis to train him to better fight Black, but he refused), so they have no reason to wear the outfits with Whis' logo now.
Goku using the Turtle logo instead is due to the deeper bond he had with his old master... IMHO.
Vegeta and Goku trained with Whis at the beginning of the arc. Also, Goku's logo is his family name, not the turtle logo.
Kanassa wrote:
precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.
I wish we knew. All we can do right now is hope they'll switch back, as they've taken a step back in developing their outfits towards EOZ. The F outfits are my favorite in the whole franchise, so you can probably assume that I'd like them back. Though I hope they retain Whis' symbol, because the outfits look rather incomplete when it's excluded.
Because anything resembling progress for this stagnant franchise is a big no-no.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
Spoiler:
Absolute Zamasu(my name for their fusion) wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness(x amount of time for this to happen). He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Absolute Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness(mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
Gig wrote:I think they presented them as Whis' students, since when Whis applied his logo to them. Currently, Whis isn't training them anymore (Goku asked Whis to train him to better fight Black, but he refused), so they have no reason to wear the outfits with Whis' logo now.
Goku using the Turtle logo instead is due to the deeper bond he had with his old master... IMHO.
Vegeta and Goku trained with Whis at the beginning of the arc. Also, Goku's logo is his family name, not the turtle logo.
Is that true? His family name is Son, i thought the symbol on his gi was pronounced "Go". I may be wrong though. Son is a different Kanji.
generalred3 wrote:Is that true? His family name is Son, i thought the symbol on his gi was pronounced "Go". I may be wrong though. Son is a different Kanji.
That's correct. It's not his family name, it's just one of the kanji from his name (Son 'Go'ku).
Would have liked their RoF outfits as well especially since it seems they plan on fusing, now we basically have an idea already on how Vegito will look like if they fuse (there is a difference since Vegeta has his saiyan plate armor on)
SansrivaaL wrote:Would have liked their RoF outfits as well especially since it seems they plan on fusing, now we basically have an idea already on how Vegito will look like if they fuse (there is a difference since Vegeta has his saiyan plate armor on)
I'm quite sure we will be disappointed when Vegetto appears again but with his old clothes even though Vegeta's wearing armor and long sleeves and Goku has got the kanji. Unless Vegeta and Goku finally get battle damaged to the point they are completely shirtless and we get shirtless Vegetto
悟 “Vincit qui se vincit”
What I consider canonical
Spoiler:
Dragon Ball Manga
Jaco: The Galactic Patrolman
Yo! Son Goku and Friends Return
Additional lore from Toriyama
Dragon Ball Daima
It's not just Goku and Vegeta - they actually took longer to go back than most. Everyone aside from Bulma (and Tenshinhan, oddly) quickly returned to their Battle of Gods outfits, rather than staying with their Revival F designs - and in Bulma's case she technically had a new Toriyama design for this arc, even though it was just an outfit change compared to Revival F.
I kinda considered these as the "official Whis suits" since they have his logo. So I think they will reuse them in the tournament. Till then we are stuck with my favorite Goku outfit. The bog one.
To pimp out different merchandise strictly tied into Super. It's the same reason Future Trunks' hair colour changed from purple to blue.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Cetra wrote:I would like Vegeta to wear more casual stuff like that one leather jacket or what he wore when he and Bulma were on that one trip. But yes, his blue gym outfit.
YES. All of my yes. Vegeta wearing less and less saiyan armor was symbolic of him becoming more and more like an earthling. Feels like a huge backtrack to be back in his Cell arc gear.
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