"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by HeroR » Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:02 am

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GodVegetto91 wrote:Lord Frieza is 100% right in anything he says. This is a battle you can't win. Vegetto, Whis even the Grand Priest, it doesn't matter. You need to seal him away or call Zeno. those are the only 2 options available.
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The last I checked, Vegetto can't kill an immortal.
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Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by DragonHermit » Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:05 am

HeroR wrote: The last I checked, Vegetto can't kill an immortal.
I wouldn't be surprised if Vegetto had enough power to obliterate an entire universe and supersedes the strength of the DBs. I mean Red Form Goku was causing the universe to shake.

Those Goku v. Superman vids will have a sequel

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Post by Chuquita » Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:36 am

Someone in the 2ch thread thinks the 2020 Tokyo Olympics insignia looks like the mafuba:
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Source: http://m.imgur.com/EYftdv2?r
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Post by HeroR » Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:38 am

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HeroR wrote: The last I checked, Vegetto can't kill an immortal.
I wouldn't be surprised if Vegetto had enough power to obliterate an entire universe and supersedes the strength of the DBs. I mean Red Form Goku was causing the universe to shake.

Those Goku v. Superman vids will have a sequel
He can destroy the universe, and Zamasu would still be alive because he's an immortal, while Vegetto would be the one dead.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:41 am

The conversation in this thread keeps going in circles. We know an immortal can't die, but they don't need to die to be defeated, and Vegetto might be powerful enough to strong arm Zamasu into submission, we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

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Post by dbgtFO » Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:44 am

Chuquita wrote:Someone in the 2ch thread thinks the 2020 Tokyo Olympics insignia looks like the mafuba:
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Source: http://m.imgur.com/EYftdv2?r
Haha, that gold part really does look like a dude getting stretched.
UpFromTheSkies wrote:The conversation in this thread keeps going in circles. We know an immortal can't die, but they don't need to die to be defeated, and Vegetto might be powerful enough to strong arm Zamasu into submission, we'll just have to wait and see what happens.
Goku will call Zeno and tell him Zamasu is the friend he was talking about. Then Zamasu will be held captive by Zeno for the rest of his immortal life :P

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Post by HeroR » Sun Oct 30, 2016 3:15 am

UpFromTheSkies wrote:The conversation in this thread keeps going in circles. We know an immortal can't die, but they don't need to die to be defeated, and Vegetto might be powerful enough to strong arm Zamasu into submission, we'll just have to wait and see what happens.
How do a strong arm an immortal?
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Sun Oct 30, 2016 3:29 am

HeroR wrote:
UpFromTheSkies wrote:The conversation in this thread keeps going in circles. We know an immortal can't die, but they don't need to die to be defeated, and Vegetto might be powerful enough to strong arm Zamasu into submission, we'll just have to wait and see what happens.
How do a strong arm an immortal?
The same way you would strong arm a mortal. You can subdue someone without killing them, it's just a question of whether or not Vegetto is strong enough to do it.

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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Sun Oct 30, 2016 3:33 am

For example, do you remember the attack Majin Vegeta used to restrain Goku? Imagine Vegetto using that, but covering all of Zamasu's body, and it being strong enough that he couldn't break out of it. He couldn't teleport either because he wouldn't be able to touch his forehead.

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Post by DBZ Macky » Sun Oct 30, 2016 3:40 am

UpFromTheSkies wrote:He couldn't teleport either because he wouldn't be able to touch his forehead.
Instant Kamehameha doesn't require him to touch his forehead though? From what we know, the shunkan-ido just requires one to be able to lock on to someone's ki, Goku probably touches his forehead because ot makes it easier to concentrate or something like that.
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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:25 am

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UpFromTheSkies wrote:He couldn't teleport either because he wouldn't be able to touch his forehead.
Instant Kamehameha doesn't require him to touch his forehead though? From what we know, the shunkan-ido just requires one to be able to lock on to someone's ki, Goku probably touches his forehead because ot makes it easier to concentrate or something like that.
Even if he could teleport, the energy rings would be touching his body so they would go with him. Vegetto just needs to find ways to attack Zamasu without doing damage, then he should be able to over power him easily.

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Post by linkje » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:31 am

Has anyone who can access the official version of the first 10 episodes checked if they are using the tv animation or the "fixed" bluray version?

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Post by Nejishiki » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:37 am

It's Blu-ray footage.

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Post by OLKv3 » Sun Oct 30, 2016 5:19 am

Goku and Vegeta fuse, becomes Vegetto

While they're fighting, Bulma and Trunks go back to the past to get the seal. They return to the present, Vegetto uses the Mafuba to seal Zamasu in the jar. Simple.

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Post by Lord Frieza » Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:38 am

OLKv3 wrote:Goku and Vegeta fuse, becomes Vegetto

While they're fighting, Bulma and Trunks go back to the past to get the seal. They return to the present, Vegetto uses the Mafuba to seal Zamasu in the jar. Simple.

Well it was said the jar was key to victory but that does not mean the mafuba is, what if Vegetto is beaten by Zamasu, drops the butten and the jar falls on it?

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Post by Rozay » Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:41 am

I know it'll take some time, but I am DYING to see TFS's Zamasu. So much comedic potential.

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Post by Bullza » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:01 am

So apparently Toei released some info graphic about the timelines. You probably discussed it already but...there is a third Zamasu?

The Zamasu who is currently Black isn't the one we saw Goku fight as a Super Saiyan?

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Post by HeroR » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:06 am

OLKv3 wrote:Goku and Vegeta fuse, becomes Vegetto

While they're fighting, Bulma and Trunks go back to the past to get the seal. They return to the present, Vegetto uses the Mafuba to seal Zamasu in the jar. Simple.
It will take them half a day to return since they have to refuel the Time Machine again. It would be faster for them to send the Supreme Kais to get the seal since Gowasu got a Time Ring and isn't doing anything.
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Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by HeroR » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:08 am

Bullza wrote:So apparently Toei released some info graphic about the timelines. You probably discussed it already but...there is a third Zamasu?

The Zamasu who is currently Black isn't the one we saw Goku fight as a Super Saiyan?
Black is Present Zamasu who successful kills Gowasu. The split happened after Beerus kills Present Zamasu, stopping the events that would create Goku Black, so our Goku won't get his body stolen in the near future. However, Black still exist thanks to the Time Ring.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by ArchedThunder » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:09 am

Bullza wrote:So apparently Toei released some info graphic about the timelines. You probably discussed it already but...there is a third Zamasu?

The Zamasu who is currently Black isn't the one we saw Goku fight as a Super Saiyan?
No, it says
"The history where Zamasu is alive.
The main history linked with Future Trunks' history. However, because Beerus destroyed Zamasu, the main history is reorganized and split into two histories"

So he is the same Zamasu, but the timelines "split" when Beerus killed Zamasu. Whether there was an actual split or the current present overwrote Black's is unknown.

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