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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ekrolo2 » Tue Nov 01, 2016 5:10 pm

The Ginyu Force sucks (outside of their insert song).
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Doctor. » Tue Nov 01, 2016 5:10 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:The Ginyu Force sucks (outside of their insert song).
How dare you say that about Ginyu-sama?

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Tue Nov 01, 2016 5:10 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:The Ginyu Force sucks (outside of their insert song).
In what way?
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ekrolo2 » Tue Nov 01, 2016 5:12 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:The Ginyu Force sucks (outside of their insert song).
In what way?
I just find them really, really boring. None of their designs particularly stick out to me and barring a couple of cool abilities, they're like every other Freeza henchmen (not named Tagoma) just mini-bosses for the good guys to grind some XP with.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Soppa Saia People » Tue Nov 01, 2016 5:17 pm

kinisking wrote:
Soppa Saia People wrote:I like GT more then the Cell saga. Also I like how GT uses Gohan. Treats him with more respect then Super.
Gt more than the Cell saga is CRAZY but I agree with GT treating Gohan better.
I actual feel bad about hating the Cell arc. It has good ideas and executes them well, but the time is used very poorly and it has probably the worst decision making in the series.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by kinisking » Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:52 pm

Soppa Saia People wrote:
kinisking wrote:
Soppa Saia People wrote:I like GT more then the Cell saga. Also I like how GT uses Gohan. Treats him with more respect then Super.
Gt more than the Cell saga is CRAZY but I agree with GT treating Gohan better.
I actual feel bad about hating the Cell arc. It has good ideas and executes them well, but the time is used very poorly and it has probably the worst decision making in the series.
That's true. Basically everyone fucks up. Besides for maybe piccolo, and tien.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Anime Kitten » Tue Nov 01, 2016 11:06 pm

Onibaku wrote:Goten > Trunks
Strongly agree! Trunks is entertaining, but he can be irritating at times.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Tue Nov 01, 2016 11:11 pm

kinisking wrote: That's true. Basically everyone fucks up. Besides for maybe piccolo, and tien.
...and Trunks.
Soppa Saia People wrote:
kinisking wrote:
Soppa Saia People wrote:I like GT more then the Cell saga. Also I like how GT uses Gohan. Treats him with more respect then Super.
Gt more than the Cell saga is CRAZY but I agree with GT treating Gohan better.
I actual feel bad about hating the Cell arc. It has good ideas and executes them well, but the time is used very poorly and it has probably the worst decision making in the series.
At least you aren't saying it's worse than cancer or Evolution. :wink:
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by kinisking » Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:17 am

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
kinisking wrote: That's true. Basically everyone fucks up. Besides for maybe piccolo, and tien.
...and Trunks.
Idk about that. He fucked up with grade 3. He waited too long and failed anyways. He was the reason cell came also.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:11 am

Black arc (both versions) have taken over all the Z portion arcs for me!

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:03 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Black arc (both versions) have taken over all the Z portion arcs for me!
The only interesting part about this arc are the antagonists. The initial thrill is gone for me, and, having re-watched the arc coinciding with the legal release, I came to the conclusion that the FT Arc isn't that good.

That is my unpopular opinion.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Bansho64 » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:34 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote: The only interesting part about this arc are the antagonists. The initial thrill is gone for me, and, having re-watched the arc coinciding with the legal release, I came to the conclusion that the FT Arc isn't that good.

That is my unpopular opinion.
Then, might I ask, what is your favorite DB arc? I'm betting it's one of these three.
1. Saiyan arc
2. Namek-Freeza arc
3. Red Ribbon Army

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:36 pm

Bansho64 wrote:
Jinzoningen MULE wrote: The only interesting part about this arc are the antagonists. The initial thrill is gone for me, and, having re-watched the arc coinciding with the legal release, I came to the conclusion that the FT Arc isn't that good.

That is my unpopular opinion.
Then, might I ask, what is your favorite DB arc? I'm betting it's one of these three.
1. Saiyan arc
2. Namek-Freeza arc
3. Red Ribbon Army
It varies depending on my mood, but my consistent favorite is either the Piccolo Arc or Baba's tournament.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Bansho64 » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:38 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote: It varies depending on my mood, but my consistent favorite is either the Piccolo Arc or Baba's tournament.
I've been meaning to rewatch Baba's tournament. The Piccolo arc's probably my third favorite right now.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Nov 03, 2016 3:26 pm

kinisking wrote:
DBZAOTA482 wrote:
kinisking wrote: That's true. Basically everyone fucks up. Besides for maybe piccolo, and tien.
...and Trunks.
Idk about that. He fucked up with grade 3. He waited too long and failed anyways. He was the reason cell came also.
And he never gave an actual description of what the Androids actually look like. That was a colossal fuck up that lead to Yamcha nearly dying and city being vaporised.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Lunatic Fringe » Thu Nov 03, 2016 4:05 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
kinisking wrote:
DBZAOTA482 wrote: ...and Trunks.
Idk about that. He fucked up with grade 3. He waited too long and failed anyways. He was the reason cell came also.
And he never gave an actual description of what the Androids actually look like. That was a colossal fuck up that lead to Yamcha nearly dying and city being vaporised.
Wouldn't that just make Gero and #19 look less suspicious? If Trunks told them what #17 and 18 looked like, they wouldn't have guessed that they'd be the pair to look out for.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Thu Nov 03, 2016 5:04 pm

kinisking wrote:
DBZAOTA482 wrote:
kinisking wrote: That's true. Basically everyone fucks up. Besides for maybe piccolo, and tien.
...and Trunks.
Idk about that. He fucked up with grade 3. He waited too long and failed anyways. He was the reason cell came also.
Not really a fuck up on his part but more of a rookie mistake. Cell would reek havoc either way.
Lord Beerus wrote:And he never gave an actual description of what the Androids actually look like. That was a colossal fuck up that lead to Yamcha nearly dying and city being vaporised.
That wouldn't change a thing. It only became necessary when time went off course and it'll on the Z-Warriors for not stopping Dr. Gero when he was building the androids.

Not to mention he was the only one who wanted to get the job asap and got shit done.
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by kinisking » Thu Nov 03, 2016 7:09 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
kinisking wrote:
DBZAOTA482 wrote: ...and Trunks.
Idk about that. He fucked up with grade 3. He waited too long and failed anyways. He was the reason cell came also.
Not really a fuck up on his part but more of a rookie mistake. Cell would reek havoc either way.
Lord Beerus wrote:And he never gave an actual description of what the Androids actually look like. That was a colossal fuck up that lead to Yamcha nearly dying and city being vaporised.
That wouldn't change a thing. It only became necessary when time went off course and it'll on the Z-Warriors for not stopping Dr. Gero when he was building the androids.

Not to mention he was the only one who wanted to get the job asap and got shit done.
He fucked up by trying so hard to hide it from vegeta. If he had tried it earlier things could have gone differently.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Lunatic Fringe » Thu Nov 03, 2016 7:16 pm

Gohan snapping and going SSJ2, after seeing #16 getting crushed, was completely in-character.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Thu Nov 03, 2016 7:33 pm

That's not the part everyone finds OOC. Its the whining and pseudo pacifist stuff from before that.

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