"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Cipher]

Last month, I would have agreed wholeheartedly. However, since most of the last chapter was padding, I think we can assume that Toyotaro has more wiggle-room than we've been thinking.

Eh, one breather month isn't enough to convince me otherwise. It's easier to fully flesh out a shorter comedic scene than it is to try to cram in a condensed, serious action scene and have the manga read coherently as its own experience. Even a breather scene that's lengthy for what it is could be the result of accommodating the story to the manga's pace and monthly page count.

[Noah]

The bolded part you're using goes against your very point. If Toriyama wrote "Goku fights Black in the present after sparring with Trunks!" Toyotaro would have cut down on other things like the kart racing or his expanded Future Boo arc stuff to accommodate its inclusion. Since its not there, its not in the outline.

Nothing was said implicitly that we won't see this match in the next chapter, mate

[ekrolo2]

The bolded part you're using goes against your very point. If Toriyama wrote "Goku fights Black in the present after sparring with Trunks!" Toyotaro would have cut down on other things like the kart racing or his expanded Future Boo arc stuff to accommodate its inclusion. Since its not there, its not in the outline.

Nothing was said implicitly that we won't see this match in the next chapter, mate

Fair point, but unless Toyotaro is gonna do something on the level of the Mafuba shit from the anime where he'll have Black show up, attack everyone, blow up the time machine just for it to instantly get fixed, I really doubt we're going to see this match up happen now.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Change things around can easily mean the order of things so the story flows better. Not removing items like Goku going Super Saiyan God against Hit and doing Kaioken instead because of reasons or key plot points or adding an entire subplot. Toei wasn't going to write a Time paradox if given a choice.

Toyo only said he doesn't charge key plot points. He never said he didn't charge anything. And he's not changing the story by cutting parts he thinks are unneeded if he can still get to A to B.

Whatever, believe what you want to believe. I won't keep repeating the facts.

[dbgtFO]

Change things around can easily mean the order of things so the story flows better. Not removing items like Goku going Super Saiyan God against Hit and doing Kaioken instead because of reasons or key plot points or adding an entire subplot. Toei wasn't going to write a Time paradox if given a choice.

Toyo only said he doesn't charge key plot points. He never said he didn't charge anything. And he's not changing the story by cutting parts he thinks are unneeded if he can still get to A to B.

Whatever, believe what you want to believe. I won't keep repeating the facts.

It's certainly a matter of belief at this point, as long as Toyotaro, Toriyama or Toei don't go into details and come with concrete examples on where the two mediums differ from the outline or just flat out release the outline like they did the [F] script.
Toyotaro's recent interview was certainly a big opportunity to get things cleared up and while he does say, that he doesn't deviate from any major plot point (which logically includes the return of SSG, as the reason for how Goku overcame Hit's time skip is surely a big plot point) doubters will keep doubting, until it is blatantly proven.

It grinds my gears a bit, as we all can see that the two mediums only differ in how they handle the fights until the Goku vs Hit match, leading to the likely scenario, that Toriyama writes down, when characters transform into what forms. This being different in the Hit fight seems a ridiculous assumption (and I don't appreciate claims that Toriyama just wrote "Vegeta is 1/10th of Goku's power for whatever reason").
Unfortunately our conclusions are only the most likely scenario based on the available evidence and that isn't good enough. Even I think that!

[OLKv3]

Yeah there were no major differences in the mediums until Toei got ahead of the manga. Logically that would mean Toei makes the major changes from the script

[HeroR]

Yeah there were no major differences in the mediums until Toei got ahead of the manga. Logically that would mean Toei makes the major changes from the script

Or the manga did something different to keep the manga interesting. We know Toriyama gave the manga permission to do its own thing.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Yeah there were no major differences in the mediums until Toei got ahead of the manga. Logically that would mean Toei makes the major changes from the script

Not really. Toyo made a plethora of changes in the BoG arc even from day one. Added Champa in way earlier and had Goku stay in SSG for the entire fight amongst the biggest ones. Another reason not to read too much into his "I don't deviate from Major plot ponts" comment because as I said before they're subjective to him.

It still pretty much up in the air who changes what, what's in the outline and what Toriyama approves.

[Lujin_16]

I predict that 2-3 episode titles will be leaked at Friday or Saturday

[Ki Breaker]

Is this legit? Someone sent it to me..

[Nejishiki]

Yes.

[Ki Breaker]

Hell ya! Surprises are always good

[DBS916]

Yes.

I cannot wait! Hopefully it will be soon and have the fighters from the Universe six!

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Yes.

Sabat changed his status to a sun coming out from a cloud, essentially "over the horizon" I guess, definitely not coincidental. Since that is Toei USA twitter got to be that.

[Valerius Dover]

Huh. So, guess they really did pass up The Final Chapters. Well, it's cool we're getting Super at least. Though, it is ironic the former got canned since it was originally intended for international markets.

[Cetra]

Until the Zamas saga is announced as movie and we have three versions of the Zamas time travelling story.

[Alruneia]

Huh. So, guess they really did pass up The Final Chapters. Well, it's cool we're getting Super at least. Though, it is ironic the former got canned since it was originally intended for international markets.

That has not been implied yet. Wait and see what the surprise actually is first.

[Pannaliciour]

Maybe a movie, just imagine: ssjb kaio ken x 10 vs Hit. Godly

[GodVegetto91]

Yes! English Dub!!!!! I can't wait! Hyped!

No way they announce a movie this way..

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Yes! English Dub!!!!! I can't wait! Hyped!

No way they announce a movie this way..

Yeah this is their USA account. If there was a new movie this wouldn't be the place they'd announce.