Would Super had been better if Toyo created a manga and Toei adapted it

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Would Super had been better if Toyo created a manga and Toei adapted it

Post by Totamo » Wed Nov 16, 2016 2:35 am

because aside from a few things, the manga has better pacing, better visuals , better writing and the characters are better written imo.

I guess it might be because of all the hate episode 66 has brought to the show, many fans are dropping the entire series. This feels more hated than 5, which had nothing going for it.

I really wanted super to be well recieved, I have enjoyed every arc except rof but I feel like I'm the only one. I'm glad it's getting good ratings maybe the younger generation will keep it going because this show feels more geared towards them.

What do you guys think?

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Re: Would Super had been better if Toyo created a manga and Toei adapted it

Post by Ki Breaker » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:04 am

Well yes.. I think it would be helpful if Toyotaros manga came first and the anime took pointers form it..
But it's not always the case.. some things the anime does better like piccolo vs frost.

It's gonna happen soon though.. Toyotaro is gonna get ahead of the anime after this arc is done.. I am honestly looking forward to the change of pace and quality when that happens
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Re: Would Super had been better if Toyo created a manga and Toei adapted it

Post by Hit!! » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:41 am

Toyotaro is eventually going to get ahead for the next arc, and the anime will follow the manga more closely.

I always wanted this to happen from the start, because i find it way too chaotic that the manga has its own version of Toriyamas story and the anime a totally different one.

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Re: Would Super had been better if Toyo created a manga and Toei adapted it

Post by Boo Machine » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:47 am

Ki Breaker wrote: It's gonna happen soon though.. Toyotaro is gonna get ahead of the anime after this arc is done.. I am honestly looking forward to the change of pace and quality when that happens
Hit!! wrote:Toyotaro is eventually going to get ahead for the next arc, and the anime will follow the manga more closely.
Wasn't there already a time when the manga was ahead of the anime? I believe it was ahead until the anime got to the Goku vs frost fight. But both Anime and manga were still fairly different in how certain events played out.
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Post by kinisking » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:01 am

Totamo wrote:because aside from a few things, the manga has better pacing, better visuals , better writing and the characters are better written imo.

I guess it might be because of all the hate episode 66 has brought to the show, many fans are dropping the entire series. This feels more hated than 5, which had nothing going for it.

I really wanted super to be well recieved, I have enjoyed every arc except rof but I feel like I'm the only one. I'm glad it's getting good ratings maybe the younger generation will keep it going because this show feels more geared towards them.

What do you guys think?
First of all, the manga does not have better pacing at all. It's never had better pacing.

Second of all, absolutely no one us actually going to drop the series because of this episode regardless of what they say.
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Post by JulieYBM » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:07 am

Not necessarily. Dragon Ball Super's problem is the short production schedule and lack of available staff. The writing has been the most solid and consistent aspect of the series.
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Post by Bansho64 » Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:34 pm

kinisking wrote: Second of all, absolutely no one us actually going to drop the series because of this episode regardless of what they say.
Well, I wouldn't say that. I've seen numerous people doing exactly this.

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Re: Would Super had been better if Toyo created a manga and Toei adapted it

Post by kinisking » Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:46 pm

Bansho64 wrote:
kinisking wrote: Second of all, absolutely no one us actually going to drop the series because of this episode regardless of what they say.
Well, I wouldn't say that. I've seen numerous people doing exactly this.
Saying it, not doing it.
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Re: Would Super had been better if Toyo created a manga and Toei adapted it

Post by Bansho64 » Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:48 pm

kinisking wrote: Saying it, not doing it.
No, I've actually been seeing people doing this. It's not unrealistic for someone to drop a series because of one episode.

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Re: Would Super had been better if Toyo created a manga and Toei adapted it

Post by emperior » Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:55 pm

Bansho64 wrote:
kinisking wrote: Saying it, not doing it.
No, I've actually been seeing people doing this. It's not unrealistic for someone to drop a series because of one episode.
Can't wait for all of them to show up complaining in the next episode.
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Wed Nov 16, 2016 6:21 pm

Both are a hit or miss, but the manga fails in being impressive.
I think both parties discussing their opinions and working together would be the best case scenario.
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Re: Would Super had been better if Toyo created a manga and Toei adapted it

Post by Bansho64 » Wed Nov 16, 2016 6:25 pm

emperior wrote: Can't wait for all of them to show up complaining in the next episode.
Huh? I gotta say, I don't feel the same way. If anything, I'd want them to be happy just like any other fan. I don't particularly like the anime myself, and I haven't for a while, but I wouldn't wish unhappiness on someone else because they did.

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Re: Would Super had been better if Toyo created a manga and Toei adapted it

Post by Razorsaw » Wed Nov 16, 2016 6:48 pm

None of Toyotaro's series are what I'd call "fleshed out". They're limited stories that only hit the broad strokes of what's interesting. They don't feel like full stories whatsoever.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Nov 16, 2016 6:54 pm

Depends how Toyotaro is in handling weekly schedule otherwise I don't think things will be much different as they are if he stayed at monthly.

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Post by Steven Bloodriver » Wed Nov 16, 2016 6:56 pm

Totamo wrote:because aside from a few things, the manga has better pacing, better visuals , better writing and the characters are better written imo.

I guess it might be because of all the hate episode 66 has brought to the show, many fans are dropping the entire series. This feels more hated than 5, which had nothing going for it.

I really wanted super to be well recieved, I have enjoyed every arc except rof but I feel like I'm the only one. I'm glad it's getting good ratings maybe the younger generation will keep it going because this show feels more geared towards them.

What do you guys think?
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Re: Would Super had been better if Toyo created a manga and Toei adapted it

Post by OLKv3 » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:36 pm

It would be the best of both worlds. The animation and choreography would improve, and Toei would be able to have longer fights since they'd be expanding the short manga fights

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Re: Would Super had been better if Toyo created a manga and Toei adapted it

Post by GodVegetto91 » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:45 pm

Bansho64 wrote:
kinisking wrote: Saying it, not doing it.
No, I've actually been seeing people doing this. It's not unrealistic for someone to drop a series because of one episode.
How can you "see" them doing this??

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Post by Bansho64 » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:52 pm

GodVegetto91 wrote: How can you "see" them doing this??
Because I have friends at school and family members in real life who have watched Super? :?

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Re: Would Super had been better if Toyo created a manga and Toei adapted it

Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:53 pm

Yes and no. The narrative would be more structured and cohesive, but at the same time, you would have Toei pulling the same shit they did when they originally adapted the Toriyama's Dragon Ball manga and have one chapter being stretched out into a one or sometimes even two episodes, with the occasionally filler arc to give the manga time to get ahead. I really don't wanna go back to those days with Dragon Ball. I'm already dealing enough with that shit in One Piece.

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Re: Would Super had been better if Toyo created a manga and Toei adapted it

Post by GodVegetto91 » Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:27 am

Bansho64 wrote:
GodVegetto91 wrote: How can you "see" them doing this??
Because I have friends at school and family members in real life who have watched Super? :?
And are you with them 24/7 ?

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