Why did the anime even bother with Resurrection F?

[DBZAOTA482]

I understand remaking Battle of Gods since BOG did expand upon the level of hierarchy, introduced the Super Saiyan God, and the remake made Goku and Beerus' strength more gaugeable while nothing was improved upon with Resurrection F (in fact it was made worse with the awful art/animation and pointless plot points). Not only that but Resurrection F as a whole was (objectively speaking) nothing but an uninspired cashgrab that did more harm than good to Freeza's image. There was no character development (Goku and Vegeta don't learn a thing from their fight with Freeza), did nothing to expand the world of Dragon Ball, no lore, no clear power scaling or gaugeable feats, and Goku and Vegeta's training involved learning things they already should know. It did bring us Super Saiyan Blue but even that easily could've been done without the arc. Toyotaro was also smart enough to not bother with something that was just there to be a popcorn movie flair.

Every canon proceeding arc brought something new to the table. The Saga of Son Goku... is a no-brainer. The Tenkiachi Budokai introduced... well the Tenkaichi Budokai as well as added in new members who become recurring characters such as Tien, Chiaotzu, and Chi-Chi while pointing the main characters' abilities to the test. The Red Ribbon Army Saga (even though I don't like it much) introduced the concept of hierarchy and Korin. The Uranai Baba Saga (which I don't like a lot either) introduced the concept of the afterlife. The Piccolo Daimao Saga was the turning point in the story along with introducing Kami, a bunch of crucial techniques, and senzus. The Saiyan Saga showed Goku's new family life as well as explored the backstories of Goku and Piccolo plus Saiyan lore. The Namek/Freeza Saga introduced Namekians and their planet Namek as well as Super Saiyan and further insight into Vegeta's past. The Android/Cell Saga (for the crazy amount of shit it seems to get here) added a bunch... it introduced the concept of time travel (in detail, too), had enemies so tough they inspired the Saiyans to surpass the Super Saiyan wall and had Piccolo finally become one with god, introduced the Room of Spirit and Time, found Mrs. Right for Krillin, and had Vegeta learning to accept he has people in his life to care for. The Majin Boo Saga also expanded upon most of those aspects as well as expand upon the level of hierarchy with the Kaioshins as well as give Goku and Vegeta's rivalry closure.

Why did the Super anime even bother? Filler...?

[precita]

Because even aside from the debut of Super Saiyan Blue, Freeza is the most popular villain in the franchise.

[Ki Breaker]

I am in minority but I like resurrection f a lot..

It introduces super Saiyan blue, we see vegeta reach god status on his own.. fixing the plot point that it can be reached without ceremonies..
This plot point was used by trunks..

It showed Gohan turned into a father and quit fighting.. fixing the plot point of Gohan not being strong anymore this giving an explanation why piccolo would be chosen instead of Gohan for tournament..

It also introduces the point that prodigious people can surpass Goku and Vegeta in far less time than it took them to reach a level of power..
This point was used by hit in tournament.. and Goku black by being more powerful than Goku by using Goku's own body..

It introduces master roshi to people who are starting with Dragonball super giving the plot point he is master of z fighters and also tough enough to hold his own.. Master roshi is then used to teach Goku the Mafuba.. if not introduced earlier people new to the franchise would call him an asspull as well..

Also the point of giving the z fighters shine is there after how terribly the lost to beerus, this shows that they are not weak at all and how strong berrus is..


All in all its one of my favorite arcs in the entire franchise

[Lord Beerus]

To make more money.

[phattangent]

So that they can sell this toy under the ドラゴンボール超 brand!
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[MozillaVulpix]

Not to mention to sell Tagoma, Sorbet, Shisami, Tracksuit Gohan and Roshi, and introducing who Jaco is in a better way than having him just show up already integrated as part of the main cast in the tournament. He needed a reason to actually show up on Earth after so many years in a way that didn't ask the question as to who he was and why he hadn't been important up until now.

[sintzu]

I think the arc fixed most of the movie's problems.

Freeza wasn't a push over like he was in the movie.

We got to see more of Goku and Vegeta's training and some of Freeza's as well.

The flow of the story felt more natural than the movie's cause we saw how everything started and led to the next while the movie put us in the middle of a random scene and moved randomly to the next one.

Most importantly, Vegeta's beatdown had more weight to it cause up to that point Freeza was beating everyone left and right, including Goku.

[phattangent]

Not to mention to sell Tagoma, Sorbet, Shisami

I can't seem to find any merchandise for these characters under the ドラゴンボール超 branding, at least on Amazon.co.jp. There is plenty of stuff under 復活のF, though.

Tracksuit Gohan

Yup. Although, the 復活のF figure looks a little better IMO.
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and Roshi

This trading card I found says it all!
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[Cipher]

None of the arcs so far have had any character development, except mildly for Beerus and Trunks. They even removed what was present in the BoG film. What has the Zamasu arc brought? A bit more interaction with Zenou, wherever that goes, but otherwise it's just "the time Trunks showed up again and had us fight another supervillain." All present cast members remain unchanged.

Anyway, for the same reason I suspect the first movie was adapted: to buy time for the production of new material, since they were intent on rushing the series into its timeslot.

[Razorsaw]

None of the arcs so far have had any character development, except mildly for Beerus and Trunks. They even removed what was present in the BoG film. What has the Zamasu arc brought? A bit more interaction with Zenou, wherever that goes, but otherwise it's just "the time Trunks showed up again and had us fight another supervillain." All present cast members remain unchanged.

Anyway, for the same reason I suspect the first movie was adapted: to buy time for the production of new material, since they were intent on rushing the series into its timeslot.

compare how Vegeta reacted to Trunks in the Cell saga and how he treats him in the Future Trunks arc.

There's plenty of character development.

[Cipher]

None of the arcs so far have had any character development, except mildly for Beerus and Trunks. They even removed what was present in the BoG film. What has the Zamasu arc brought? A bit more interaction with Zenou, wherever that goes, but otherwise it's just "the time Trunks showed up again and had us fight another supervillain." All present cast members remain unchanged.

Anyway, for the same reason I suspect the first movie was adapted: to buy time for the production of new material, since they were intent on rushing the series into its timeslot.

compare how Vegeta reacted to Trunks in the Cell saga and how he treats him in the Future Trunks arc.

There's plenty of character development.

Yeah; from the Cell arc to the Boo arc (and within the Cell arc itself).

Compare how Vegeta reacts to Trunks at the beginning of this arc to the end of this arc.

[Razorsaw]

Having him be sad and make a "heroic sacrifice" doesn't mean what Super does is inconsequential. You actually get to see these changes in him in operation instead of having him deliver platitudes before self destructing himself pointlessly or seeing Trunks off.

And there's also his interaction with Caba.

[Cipher]

I agree that, for Vegeta specifically, Super has given us the opportunity to see in action changes that occurred only at the end of the Boo arc and the series' original run.

I disagree that any arc of the series has seriously changed the characters or their status quos in the way the original run did. You could literally remove the main conflict of the Trunks arc, keep whatever of the Zenou material will have future plot impact, and not miss a beat. We've hit the climax and Goku and Vegeta haven't been changed by its events.

It really is just a thing that happened, whereas each arc of the original run was a watershed moment in most focal characters' lives. We watched them change over the course of the story; there was a constant sense of progression, of things being unable to go back to the way they'd been before. All of that occurred before we hit any of the individual climaxes.

[dbs fanboy]

YES!!!!

I've been saying this for a long time, RoF existence is not relevant and on to of that, the damn arc was awful!!!!!!

Sadly we live in a world where terrible random things happen, RoF was one of them.

[dbs fanboy]

None of the arcs so far have had any character development, except mildly for Beerus and Trunks. They even removed what was present in the BoG film. What has the Zamasu arc brought? A bit more interaction with Zenou, wherever that goes, but otherwise it's just "the time Trunks showed up again and had us fight another supervillain." All present cast members remain unchanged.

Anyway, for the same reason I suspect the first movie was adapted: to buy time for the production of new material, since they were intent on rushing the series into its timeslot.

What about Hit, Cabba, Zamasu, and Kid Trunks?

Also does Goku/Vegeta fighting together count as character development?

[Mazingerdestro]

Both Bog and Fnf were brought to buy sometime till Champa Arc was "ready". It is explained/speculated that when Super was announced nothing was read. No plot, no animation no nothing. Bog and Fnf were there to buy some time and at the same time keep the tv time slot for Db.

[Cipher]

What about Hit, Cabba, Zamasu, and Kid Trunks?

Also does Goku/Vegeta fighting together count as character development?

Those are all secondary and guest characters. One is an antagonist (and it's not great that his character arc is a lot more compelling than the heroes'). Kid Trunks I'll sort of give you, but man, is it clumsily handled and not spotlighted by the arc. Those don't compare to growth in the focal characters who are actually moving the story along.

And not the way it's executed, it doesn't. It isn't really emphasized and doesn't accompany a bigger character change.

[dbs fanboy]

What about Hit, Cabba, Zamasu, and Kid Trunks?

Also does Goku/Vegeta fighting together count as character development?

Those are all secondary and guest characters. One is an antagonist (and it's not great that his character arc is a lot more compelling than the heroes'). Kid Trunks I'll sort of give you, but man, is it clumsily handled and not spotlighted by the arc. Those don't compare to growth in the focal characters who are actually moving the story along.

And not the way it's executed, it doesn't. It isn't really emphasized and doesn't accompany a bigger character change.

Fair enough.

But what about Vegeta/Goku kinda friendship in the U6 arc? i would talk about Goku in ep 43, even thought it was only a filler episode, or Vegeta teaching Cabba how to transform?
But oh well i guess that is still something minor because those two began behaving like this with each other in ep 18 and Vegeta already respected Goku in the Buu saga.......