Should the Supreme Kai and Kibito have stayed Kibito Kai?

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Should the Supreme Kai and Kibito have stayed Kibito Kai?

Post by Bulma's Foot Masseur » Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:53 am

I've never liked the Supreme Kai's regular appearance, and the design post-fusion just seems considerably less pathetic when stood next to Beerus or the othee gods. Who still has attachment for the Supreme Kai after Kibito Kai saved Goku and Vegeta from Kid Buu's destruction of Earth? Was the defusing all just so that Kibito could be the Supreme Kai's Whis?
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Re: Should the Supreme Kai and Kibito have stayed Kibito Kai?

Post by Lionel » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:01 am

Perhaps they just grew weary of being merged into a single entity all of the time. They prefer their individuality over power or stature.
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Re: Should the Supreme Kai and Kibito have stayed Kibito Kai?

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:03 am

I think the split was unnecessary. The only reason I could think for it was to show that defusing via the Dragonballs was possible, yet that hasn't been brought up again.
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Re: Should the Supreme Kai and Kibito have stayed Kibito Kai?

Post by emi_b7 » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:38 am

I prefer their unfused designs so I liked the change, but I would have preferred if they showed when they defuse like i the manga. Kaioshin does seem shorter in Super for some reason (like Krillin) but I don't see how he looks pathetic next to Beerus or other gods.
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Re: Should the Supreme Kai and Kibito have stayed Kibito Kai?

Post by Razorsaw » Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:32 pm

Fusing in the first place essentially killed Kibito.

Over a joke.

De-fusing was the right thing to do.
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Re: Should the Supreme Kai and Kibito have stayed Kibito Kai?

Post by mr.fredsolo » Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:13 pm

Razorsaw wrote:Fusing in the first place essentially killed Kibito.

Over a joke.

De-fusing was the right thing to do.
Let's be honest. Who the hell cares about Kibito?

I'm baffled by the defusion.
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Re: Should the Supreme Kai and Kibito have stayed Kibito Kai?

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:22 pm

mr.fredsolo wrote:
Razorsaw wrote:Fusing in the first place essentially killed Kibito.

Over a joke.

De-fusing was the right thing to do.
Let's be honest. Who the hell cares about Kibito?

I'm baffled by the defusion.
Kibito's my favorite character, I'm glad he's back.
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Re: Should the Supreme Kai and Kibito have stayed Kibito Kai?

Post by Razorsaw » Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:41 pm

You can think he's boring, but that doesn't change the fact that leaving a guy unwillingly stuck to someone else is wrong.
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Re: Should the Supreme Kai and Kibito have stayed Kibito Kai?

Post by precita » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:55 pm

Kibito was always a non-character. He's instantly killed by Dabura and then after that he does next to nothing besides fusing with Supreme Kai.

About the only personality Kibito had was when he was having nervous breakdowns over Gohan and Goku "standing on the sacred land of the Kai's."
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Re: Should the Supreme Kai and Kibito have stayed Kibito Kai?

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:43 pm

Yes, he should because I liked his design better. Besides one less supremely incompetent overseer is always better.
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Re: Should the Supreme Kai and Kibito have stayed Kibito Kai?

Post by Akyon » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:51 pm

precita wrote:Kibito was always a non-character. He's instantly killed by Dabura and then after that he does next to nothing besides fusing with Supreme Kai.

About the only personality Kibito had was when he was having nervous breakdowns over Gohan and Goku "standing on the sacred land of the Kai's."
To be fair he's been mildly amusing in the Super manga. I liked that he tried to get involved with the taking down of Dabura in Trunks' timeline too.
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Re: Should the Supreme Kai and Kibito have stayed Kibito Kai?

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:30 pm

Wouldn't have mattered either way. Their role in the plot would have remained very limited.
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Re: Should the Supreme Kai and Kibito have stayed Kibito Kai?

Post by Angelus » Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:25 pm

Yeah, being Kibito Kai, he could have given more power to Future Trunk's spirit bomb.

Besides, at least being Kibito Kai won't make him so much weaker than before. By my estimates, Kibito Kai should be significantly weaker than 25th WMAT SSJ2 Gohan. But at least he's a low-tier SSJ2 now instead of back then where he shits his pants at the sight of Yakon
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Re: Should the Supreme Kai and Kibito have stayed Kibito Kai?

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:29 am

To reiterate, no he shouldn't have. I'm glad my favorite character Kibito is back, wish he got more screentime, though.
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