Is anyone else going to miss Black?

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Re: Is anyone else going to miss Black?

Post by sangofe » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:46 am

Yeah. Black was awesome. Wonder if it's possible to top him. Also curious about what direction the show's taking next.

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Re: Is anyone else going to miss Black?

Post by phattangent » Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:23 am

sangofe wrote:Yeah. Black was awesome. Wonder if it's possible to top him. Also curious about what direction the show's taking next.
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Re: Is anyone else going to miss Black?

Post by sangofe » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:21 am

phattangent wrote:
sangofe wrote:Yeah. Black was awesome. Wonder if it's possible to top him. Also curious about what direction the show's taking next.
NEXT TIME ON DBS: Flash from the Past!? Zeno vs. Vegeta Black!
I highly doubt that, but I have to admit I lol'd from that title.

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Re: Is anyone else going to miss Black?

Post by FortuneSSJ » Wed Nov 16, 2016 6:33 pm

Of course, I will. But I don't need another guy that looks like Goku around.

I wasn't interested in a Evil Goku concept, because that just seemed cliché and we already had Turles. But Toriyama/Toei managed to make Black an awesome character and that made me love him.

I'm glad it didn't turn out to be just a "Goku that never hit his head and remained evil", like some people wanted. We got the best of two worlds, this way
An interesting evil Goku and a character that helps giving depth to Zamasu's character as a whole.
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Re: Is anyone else going to miss Black?

Post by OLKv3 » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:34 pm

Black was awesome, and much better than he had any right to be. I'll miss this smug dude. RIP Black

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Re: Is anyone else going to miss Black?

Post by Faisal Shourov » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:49 pm

Not gonna miss too much but Black was certainly entertaining. And very unpredictable.
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Re: Is anyone else going to miss Black?

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Wed Nov 16, 2016 9:34 pm

dragonballgeek wrote:I can't be the only one who thought Goku Black was an awesome villain. I was really hoping they'd find a way to keep him in the series just a little longer. There are so many directions they could've taken him to prolonge his stay that it almost seems like a waste of a perfectly good plot.
Well, I am not going to miss him at all. As it was very fitting that Future Trunks had killed him.

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Re: Is anyone else going to miss Black?

Post by TheShadowEmperor8055 » Sat Nov 19, 2016 8:25 pm

I'm gonna miss him. Zamasu/Goku Black is, to me, the best and more foreboding villain since Freeza. But no one tops Freeza for me.

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Re: Is anyone else going to miss Black?

Post by dbs fanboy » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:23 am

Read my signature, i'm suffering :| :( :cry:
I really miss ma boy, Black :( :cry:


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Re: Is anyone else going to miss Black?

Post by thegamer23 » Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:24 pm

I already miss him.

He was really a perfect villain. Smug, intelligent, cold-blooded, super strong. I loved the fact that he always kept his cool even in very difficult situations, while the other Zamasu was a bit too extreme in his manners IMO.
His personality, in fact, deviated so much from the future timeline's Zamasu that i like to consider him as a stand-alone carachter.

Loved when Zamasu escaped from Mafuba and he was all trembling and breathless, Black looked at him with disgust: "Just look at you.."

His fight scenes were awesome, his speech about the universe was chilling: "I come from a much higher place than your's. And i've seen the truth about the universe and everything's in it. Humans are the one and only failed creation of the Gods.
So...in order to make the world, the Universe a beautiful Paradise, i must eliminate humans on God's Behalf, who won't admit their failure
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Bring him back some way Toei! :(

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Re: Is anyone else going to miss Black?

Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Sun Nov 20, 2016 3:11 pm

I thought Goku black was a better villain than Zamasu. He seemed smarter and better versed in his logic which made him more interesting to listen to. When he fused with the other Zamasu thats when he seemed to go down points for me. Where the fusion character seemed to just made Zamasu seem so pompous and delusional that it got annoying from repetition in Ep 65-66 (as Vegito noted). But again it was because he never got the chance to actually finish his plan and just impulsively wanted to destroy everything. Therefore unlike Black who seemed more precariously calm, confident and calculating, I couldnt buy that Zamasu actually knew what he was talking about anymore when he took over. Its a shame. I will miss Black for that aspect of him being the better side to that pair.
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