super doesn't care about happy ending...

[Lujin_16]

I mean in the last episode all humans died and Zamasu/Black were successful in a way and with Hit & Goku i thought they will become friends and now
he wants to kill him

[DragonBallFoodie]

I think the endings have been satisfactory so far.

- Beerus beat Goku, but was impressed enough to spare the Earth and be the Z-Fighters' friend
- Frieza got destroyed and sent back to hell
- the Universe Tournament was won by Monaka, but the King of All stopped things from getting bad
- and Zamasu got blown up with Trunks and Mai leaving for a new life.

Not necessarily happy endings, but okay endings.

[Mazingerdestro]

Db is growing up. You have to do it too and follow.
Not every story has a good ending but if you try hard you can succeed in the future

[FortuneSSJ]

That's a good thing, because different endings are welcome. Not everyone gets the happy ending in real life either.
It's also a slap in the face to people that say nobody from good side stays dead in Dragon Ball.

Welp, it's already a slap in the face of other battle shonens when Goku, the main character, loses to the main villain and someone else gets the win.

[SsjCookie]

I would have been fine with this ending if only they could have saved the kids at least......but no ...EVERYONE DIES!!!


Super has gone dark.

[Lord Beerus]

Super has gone dark.

Isn't that what people wanted Super to be?

[HeroR]

Db is growing up. You have to do it too and follow.
Not every story has a good ending but if you try hard you can succeed in the future

To be fair, all of the Z story arcs had bittersweet endings except the Buu Saga:

- Saiyan Saga: The Saiyans are defeated and the Earth is saved, but all the Earth's warriors are dead except Goku, Krillin, and Gohan, the Dragon Balls are gone since Kami died, Vegeta is still alive and vows to return, and Goku is critically injured.

- Freeza Saga: Freeza is defeated and the Namekians are saved. But Planet Namek is destroyed, Goku is lost in space, the Grand Elder dies, the Namekians Vegeta killed are not revived, most of the people killed by the Saiyans are not revived since the past the one year mark, and Denda leaves with the others to a new world.

- Cell Saga: Cell is destroyed and the remaining androids are either reformed or dead. Goku dies along with 16 who is never revived.

What makes the Future Trunks Saga different is that none of the deaths can be reverse by the next story arc, unlike Z.

[Lord Beerus]

What makes the Future Trunks Saga different is that none of the deaths can be reverse by the next story arc, unlike Z.

Is it wrong that I want every arc in Super to follow this suit?

[DragonBallFoodie]

What makes the Future Trunks Saga different is that none of the deaths can be reverse by the next story arc, unlike Z.

Is it wrong that I want every arc in Super to follow this suit?

I don't. I hope we can agree to disagree.

I'm not saying everyone should be brought back everytime, after all the Freeza saga showed that some Namekians Vegeta killed stayed dead (the wish was that only the people Frieza killed came back), and the Android saga had Android 16 stay dead.

But at least some people should come back, as a trademark of the Dragon Balls. Those two children could have come back and be adopted by Trunks and Mai

[Mazingerdestro]

Db is growing up. You have to do it too and follow.
Not every story has a good ending but if you try hard you can succeed in the future

To be fair, all of the Z story arcs had bittersweet endings except the Buu Saga:

- Saiyan Saga: The Saiyans are defeated and the Earth is saved, but all the Earth's warriors are dead except Goku, Krillin, and Gohan, the Dragon Balls are gone since Kami died, Vegeta is still alive and vows to return, and Goku is critically injured.

- Freeza Saga: Freeza is defeated and the Namekians are saved. But Planet Namek is destroyed, Goku is lost in space, the Grand Elder dies, the Namekians Vegeta killed are not revived, most of the people killed by the Saiyans are not revived since the past the one year mark, and Denda leaves with the others to a new world.

- Cell Saga: Cell is destroyed and the remaining androids are either reformed or dead. Goku dies along with 16 who is never revived.

What makes the Future Trunks Saga different is that none of the deaths can be reverse by the next story arc, unlike Z.

Well actually excluding the end of the tenshinhan tournament with Krillin's death and Raditz saga, no other story came close to a sad end.

As a kid I remember getting disappointed when Namek blew up and Goku 'died'. Back then my country had "we are angels" as an ending and I was confused why Goku's haircut changed and who these little kids were. Of course when I saw Namek the pieces came together. It was an older gohan and 2 kids one that looked like Goku (I was expecting a clone) and another kid (Trunks). I was sad for like 7 days (Goku is dead and there are no dragonballs...... ) a reason for my reaction was fmthat Goku image waving to the audience goodbye while the planet blown up. Of course next episode we see that Namek could bring people back more than once.

I can't say that db in general got sentimental or sad.
Failing and leaving like Trunks did with no hope for that reality was extreme.

[Kamen Rider Revolver]

Db is growing up. You have to do it too and follow.
Not every story has a good ending but if you try hard you can succeed in the future

I guess? But they didn't even commit to that ending because Whis had everything to fix it.

[ckal9]

Super has gone dark.

Isn't that what people wanted Super to be?

Yes, until it gets dark, then people completely flip and get upset that what they wanted to happen, happened.

[HeroR]

Db is growing up. You have to do it too and follow.
Not every story has a good ending but if you try hard you can succeed in the future

I guess? But they didn't even commit to that ending because Whis had everything to fix it.

Whis didn't fix anything. He only made a copy of Trunks' timeline before Black recruited Future Zamasu and warn Future Beerus what was going to happen.

The timeline Trunks gave everything to save is gone forever along with the people in it. Their very souls were even erased since Zen'o destroyed the afterlife. Trunks' new timeline isn't his world. He will just be sharing a copy with another version of himself.

[Mazingerdestro]

Db is growing up. You have to do it too and follow.
Not every story has a good ending but if you try hard you can succeed in the future

I guess? But they didn't even commit to that ending because Whis had everything to fix it.

Except that Trunks' timeline was blown. The two kids and the rest on the planet died horribly.

[SsjCookie]

Super has gone dark.

Isn't that what people wanted Super to be?

Yes, until it gets dark, then people completely flip and get upset that what they wanted to happen, happened.

I love the ending but at the same time I hate it. Doesn't make any sense does it ?!

I love that DBS is steering away from all the flowery happily ever after endings to make things more realistic on a real life basis.
But I hate that everything they go through in this arc was actually for nothing.

But on the other hand, Trunks timeline was doomed anyway, there were only a handfull of people left, to few to repopulate the earth.
Perhaps this was meant to be and their deaths served a higher purpose.
Maybe Trunks and Mai will serve a higher purpose since they are the only survivors.
We will see.

[Kamen Rider Revolver]

Db is growing up. You have to do it too and follow.
Not every story has a good ending but if you try hard you can succeed in the future

I guess? But they didn't even commit to that ending because Whis had everything to fix it.

Whis didn't fix anything. He only made a copy of Trunks' timeline before Black recruited Future Zamasu and warn Future Beerus what was going to happen.

The timeline Trunks gave everything to save is gone forever along with the people in it. Their very souls were even erased since Zen'o destroyed the afterlife. Trunks' new timeline isn't his world. He will just be sharing a copy with another version of himself.

This is why I said it was sort of a half measure thing. Yeah that happened, but Whis coincidentally had the solution to the problem. Its essentially a do over with the only hangover being that there are copies of them. They get to go back to the same people.

Super has gone dark.

Isn't that what people wanted Super to be?

Yes, until it gets dark, then people completely flip and get upset that what they wanted to happen, happened.

I like that people think just because someone wanted something means once they got it they have to be totally happy about it. No matter how it was hadnled. A really dark ending would be if Whis outright denied bringing back Trunk's world because of his neutrality thing. But nope. Next week is wacky shenanigans with the Dragonballs. DB is sure growing up.

[Cipher]

What would the point be in simply being grim and dwelling on failure?

I don't feel this was a half-measure happy ending. Trunks and Mai simply find some good they can do for everyone they knew, though the line about duplicates specifically reminds us that it will be imperfect, and the failure isn't erased.

That's a lot more affecting than simply dwelling on the failure.

When Gohan arrives at the end, Trunks breaks down because he immediately thinks of the world he failed. Then he receives some confidence because there's an adult Gohan right in front of him, happy and wishing him well, due to his actions. Imperfect, but it's some very real god he can do, and if that's all that's left, he'll do it.

[HyugaProdigy]

Db is growing up. You have to do it too and follow.
Not every story has a good ending but if you try hard you can succeed in the future

To be fair, all of the Z story arcs had bittersweet endings except the Buu Saga:

- Saiyan Saga: The Saiyans are defeated and the Earth is saved, but all the Earth's warriors are dead except Goku, Krillin, and Gohan, the Dragon Balls are gone since Kami died, Vegeta is still alive and vows to return, and Goku is critically injured.

- Freeza Saga: Freeza is defeated and the Namekians are saved. But Planet Namek is destroyed, Goku is lost in space, the Grand Elder dies, the Namekians Vegeta killed are not revived, most of the people killed by the Saiyans are not revived since the past the one year mark, and Denda leaves with the others to a new world.

- Cell Saga: Cell is destroyed and the remaining androids are either reformed or dead. Goku dies along with 16 who is never revived.

What makes the Future Trunks Saga different is that none of the deaths can be reverse by the next story arc, unlike Z.

It's complete different because unlike every DBZ saga we had, this Future trunk arc ended really Dark WITHOUT any sight of hope. This isn't a typical DBZ where they FORESHADOW something to give reader some hope that everyone will be revive through the dragonball because what we got in this arc is that Trunks LOST everyone he knew and he failed to protect HIS world after everything that has gone through this arc, All these survivors that put so much faith on Trunks especially these poor kids are gone. Everyone he knew and loved (except Mai) was killed

All the people he will see in that new timeline aren't the same people, and he will never get them back. Trunk and Mai would be living in a world full of lies.

Trunks gets to go back to a point before a lot of stuff went down but the world is still in ruin and the majority of people in the world are dead. On top of that, he can't UN-SEE or forget everything he experienced. His mentor and best friend's corpse, his mother being murdered, countless people dying that he was unable to protect..

[HeroR]

It's complete different because unlike every DBZ saga we had, this Future trunk arc ended really Dark WITHOUT any sight of hope. This isn't a typical DBZ where they FORESHADOW something to give reader some hope that everyone will be revive through the dragonball because what we got in this arc is that Trunks LOST everyone he knew and he failed to protect HIS world after everything that has gone through this arc, All these survivors that put so much faith on Trunks especially these poor kids are gone. Everyone he knew and loved (except Mai) was killed

All the people he will see in that new timeline aren't the same people, and he will never get them back. Trunk and Mai would be living in a world full of lies.

Trunks gets to go back to a point before a lot of stuff went down but the world is still in ruin and the majority of people in the world are dead. On top of that, he can't UN-SEE or forget everything he experienced. His mentor and best friend's corpse, his mother being murdered, countless people dying that he was unable to protect..

There was hope at the end. Future Trunks and Mai are still alive, Whis will create a world that will never suffer from the terror of Black, and Trunks can go to this new world and protect it with the power he gained from his experience. He also kept Present Goku from becoming Black since Beerus wiped out Present Zamasu before he bring his plan forward. So, it isn't a hopeless ending. It was ending with the heroes taking their losses and trying to move on from it.

And the 'world full of lies' makes no sense since you can say the same thing about him staying in the present.

[HyugaProdigy]

It's complete different because unlike every DBZ saga we had, this Future trunk arc ended really Dark WITHOUT any sight of hope. This isn't a typical DBZ where they FORESHADOW something to give reader some hope that everyone will be revive through the dragonball because what we got in this arc is that Trunks LOST everyone he knew and he failed to protect HIS world after everything that has gone through this arc, All these survivors that put so much faith on Trunks especially these poor kids are gone. Everyone he knew and loved (except Mai) was killed

All the people he will see in that new timeline aren't the same people, and he will never get them back. Trunk and Mai would be living in a world full of lies.

Trunks gets to go back to a point before a lot of stuff went down but the world is still in ruin and the majority of people in the world are dead. On top of that, he can't UN-SEE or forget everything he experienced. His mentor and best friend's corpse, his mother being murdered, countless people dying that he was unable to protect..

There was hope at the end. Future Trunks and Mai are still alive, Whis will create a world that will never suffer from the terror of Black, and Trunks can go to this new world and protect it with the power he gained from his experience. He also kept Present Goku from becoming Black since Beerus wiped out Present Zamasu before he bring his plan forward. So, it isn't a hopeless ending. It was ending with the heroes taking their losses and trying to move on from it.

And the 'world full of lies' makes no sense since you can say the same thing about him staying in the present.

You're not listening . Yes Future trunk and Mai are alive but the whole point of this arc was to GIVE these survivors some HOPE. The message of this arc was to retained their own timeline but Ultimately this arc ended up being pointless because their world have been wiped out from the existence. Trunks and Mai would die anything to protect them but they ultimately failed and they ended up branching off another timeline. In the end Trunk and Mai would still be living full of lies regardless whether it be present or another alternate timeline... Everything before Goku Black incident, they are not the same person, they will no longer recognize what Future Trunks and Mai had to go through.
What's even more fucked up is that they had to deal with the dopple ganger of themselves...