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Isn't that what people wanted Super to be?SsjCookie wrote:Super has gone dark.
To be fair, all of the Z story arcs had bittersweet endings except the Buu Saga:Mazingerdestro wrote:Db is growing up. You have to do it too and follow.
Not every story has a good ending but if you try hard you can succeed in the future
Kanassa wrote:Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Is it wrong that I want every arc in Super to follow this suit?HeroR wrote:What makes the Future Trunks Saga different is that none of the deaths can be reverse by the next story arc, unlike Z.
I don't. I hope we can agree to disagree.Lord Beerus wrote:Is it wrong that I want every arc in Super to follow this suit?HeroR wrote:What makes the Future Trunks Saga different is that none of the deaths can be reverse by the next story arc, unlike Z.
Well actually excluding the end of the tenshinhan tournament with Krillin's death and Raditz saga, no other story came close to a sad end.HeroR wrote:To be fair, all of the Z story arcs had bittersweet endings except the Buu Saga:Mazingerdestro wrote:Db is growing up. You have to do it too and follow.
Not every story has a good ending but if you try hard you can succeed in the future
- Saiyan Saga: The Saiyans are defeated and the Earth is saved, but all the Earth's warriors are dead except Goku, Krillin, and Gohan, the Dragon Balls are gone since Kami died, Vegeta is still alive and vows to return, and Goku is critically injured.
- Freeza Saga: Freeza is defeated and the Namekians are saved. But Planet Namek is destroyed, Goku is lost in space, the Grand Elder dies, the Namekians Vegeta killed are not revived, most of the people killed by the Saiyans are not revived since the past the one year mark, and Denda leaves with the others to a new world.
- Cell Saga: Cell is destroyed and the remaining androids are either reformed or dead. Goku dies along with 16 who is never revived.
What makes the Future Trunks Saga different is that none of the deaths can be reverse by the next story arc, unlike Z.
I guess? But they didn't even commit to that ending because Whis had everything to fix it.Mazingerdestro wrote:Db is growing up. You have to do it too and follow.
Not every story has a good ending but if you try hard you can succeed in the future
Yes, until it gets dark, then people completely flip and get upset that what they wanted to happen, happened.Lord Beerus wrote:Isn't that what people wanted Super to be?SsjCookie wrote:Super has gone dark.
Whis didn't fix anything. He only made a copy of Trunks' timeline before Black recruited Future Zamasu and warn Future Beerus what was going to happen.Kamen Rider Revolver wrote:I guess? But they didn't even commit to that ending because Whis had everything to fix it.Mazingerdestro wrote:Db is growing up. You have to do it too and follow.
Not every story has a good ending but if you try hard you can succeed in the future
Kanassa wrote:Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Except that Trunks' timeline was blown. The two kids and the rest on the planet died horribly.Kamen Rider Revolver wrote:I guess? But they didn't even commit to that ending because Whis had everything to fix it.Mazingerdestro wrote:Db is growing up. You have to do it too and follow.
Not every story has a good ending but if you try hard you can succeed in the future
I love the ending but at the same time I hate it. Doesn't make any sense does it ?!ckal9 wrote:Yes, until it gets dark, then people completely flip and get upset that what they wanted to happen, happened.Lord Beerus wrote:Isn't that what people wanted Super to be?SsjCookie wrote:Super has gone dark.
This is why I said it was sort of a half measure thing. Yeah that happened, but Whis coincidentally had the solution to the problem. Its essentially a do over with the only hangover being that there are copies of them. They get to go back to the same people.HeroR wrote:Whis didn't fix anything. He only made a copy of Trunks' timeline before Black recruited Future Zamasu and warn Future Beerus what was going to happen.Kamen Rider Revolver wrote:I guess? But they didn't even commit to that ending because Whis had everything to fix it.Mazingerdestro wrote:Db is growing up. You have to do it too and follow.
Not every story has a good ending but if you try hard you can succeed in the future
The timeline Trunks gave everything to save is gone forever along with the people in it. Their very souls were even erased since Zen'o destroyed the afterlife. Trunks' new timeline isn't his world. He will just be sharing a copy with another version of himself.
I like that people think just because someone wanted something means once they got it they have to be totally happy about it. No matter how it was hadnled. A really dark ending would be if Whis outright denied bringing back Trunk's world because of his neutrality thing. But nope. Next week is wacky shenanigans with the Dragonballs. DB is sure growing up.ckal9 wrote:Yes, until it gets dark, then people completely flip and get upset that what they wanted to happen, happened.Lord Beerus wrote:Isn't that what people wanted Super to be?SsjCookie wrote:Super has gone dark.
It's complete different because unlike every DBZ saga we had, this Future trunk arc ended really Dark WITHOUT any sight of hope. This isn't a typical DBZ where they FORESHADOW something to give reader some hope that everyone will be revive through the dragonball because what we got in this arc is that Trunks LOST everyone he knew and he failed to protect HIS world after everything that has gone through this arc, All these survivors that put so much faith on Trunks especially these poor kids are gone. Everyone he knew and loved (except Mai) was killedHeroR wrote:To be fair, all of the Z story arcs had bittersweet endings except the Buu Saga:Mazingerdestro wrote:Db is growing up. You have to do it too and follow.
Not every story has a good ending but if you try hard you can succeed in the future
- Saiyan Saga: The Saiyans are defeated and the Earth is saved, but all the Earth's warriors are dead except Goku, Krillin, and Gohan, the Dragon Balls are gone since Kami died, Vegeta is still alive and vows to return, and Goku is critically injured.
- Freeza Saga: Freeza is defeated and the Namekians are saved. But Planet Namek is destroyed, Goku is lost in space, the Grand Elder dies, the Namekians Vegeta killed are not revived, most of the people killed by the Saiyans are not revived since the past the one year mark, and Denda leaves with the others to a new world.
- Cell Saga: Cell is destroyed and the remaining androids are either reformed or dead. Goku dies along with 16 who is never revived.
What makes the Future Trunks Saga different is that none of the deaths can be reverse by the next story arc, unlike Z.
There was hope at the end. Future Trunks and Mai are still alive, Whis will create a world that will never suffer from the terror of Black, and Trunks can go to this new world and protect it with the power he gained from his experience. He also kept Present Goku from becoming Black since Beerus wiped out Present Zamasu before he bring his plan forward. So, it isn't a hopeless ending. It was ending with the heroes taking their losses and trying to move on from it.HyugaProdigy wrote:
It's complete different because unlike every DBZ saga we had, this Future trunk arc ended really Dark WITHOUT any sight of hope. This isn't a typical DBZ where they FORESHADOW something to give reader some hope that everyone will be revive through the dragonball because what we got in this arc is that Trunks LOST everyone he knew and he failed to protect HIS world after everything that has gone through this arc, All these survivors that put so much faith on Trunks especially these poor kids are gone. Everyone he knew and loved (except Mai) was killed
All the people he will see in that new timeline aren't the same people, and he will never get them back. Trunk and Mai would be living in a world full of lies.
Trunks gets to go back to a point before a lot of stuff went down but the world is still in ruin and the majority of people in the world are dead. On top of that, he can't UN-SEE or forget everything he experienced. His mentor and best friend's corpse, his mother being murdered, countless people dying that he was unable to protect..
Kanassa wrote:Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
You're not listening . Yes Future trunk and Mai are alive but the whole point of this arc was to GIVE these survivors some HOPE. The message of this arc was to retained their own timeline but Ultimately this arc ended up being pointless because their world have been wiped out from the existence. Trunks and Mai would die anything to protect them but they ultimately failed and they ended up branching off another timeline. In the end Trunk and Mai would still be living full of lies regardless whether it be present or another alternate timeline... Everything before Goku Black incident, they are not the same person, they will no longer recognize what Future Trunks and Mai had to go through.HeroR wrote:There was hope at the end. Future Trunks and Mai are still alive, Whis will create a world that will never suffer from the terror of Black, and Trunks can go to this new world and protect it with the power he gained from his experience. He also kept Present Goku from becoming Black since Beerus wiped out Present Zamasu before he bring his plan forward. So, it isn't a hopeless ending. It was ending with the heroes taking their losses and trying to move on from it.HyugaProdigy wrote:
It's complete different because unlike every DBZ saga we had, this Future trunk arc ended really Dark WITHOUT any sight of hope. This isn't a typical DBZ where they FORESHADOW something to give reader some hope that everyone will be revive through the dragonball because what we got in this arc is that Trunks LOST everyone he knew and he failed to protect HIS world after everything that has gone through this arc, All these survivors that put so much faith on Trunks especially these poor kids are gone. Everyone he knew and loved (except Mai) was killed
All the people he will see in that new timeline aren't the same people, and he will never get them back. Trunk and Mai would be living in a world full of lies.
Trunks gets to go back to a point before a lot of stuff went down but the world is still in ruin and the majority of people in the world are dead. On top of that, he can't UN-SEE or forget everything he experienced. His mentor and best friend's corpse, his mother being murdered, countless people dying that he was unable to protect..
And the 'world full of lies' makes no sense since you can say the same thing about him staying in the present.