"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Post by kinisking » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:39 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
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kinisking wrote:Hit, Goku black, Vegetas ROF outfit, Beerus, Oracle fish, Tagoma, Frost, Gowasu all have really nice designs.
Technically, these are movie designs; not exactly Super. But if we do include those, then Beerus and the entire Resurrection 'F' cast have great designs. :D
Why I have such a soft spot for that movie. Especially loved the way Bulma looked. Best look since Namek imo.
A lot of the characters looked great. In fact, Id say it was probably the characters at their visual best. Besides for Gohan and Goku. Gohan for obvious reasons and Goku's old gi is pretty much perfection on him so the ROF outfit had too much to live up to.
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kinisking wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
Anime Kitten wrote: Technically, these are movie designs; not exactly Super. But if we do include those, then Beerus and the entire Resurrection 'F' cast have great designs. :D
Why I have such a soft spot for that movie. Especially loved the way Bulma looked. Best look since Namek imo.
A lot of the characters looked great. In fact, Id say it was probably the characters at their visual best. Besides for Gohan and Goku. Gohan for obvious reasons and Goku's old gi is pretty much perfection on him so the ROF outfit had too much to live up to.
Gohan definitely peaked with Piccolo clothes. His Saiyaman without the helmet looked pretty good. But I did dig the track suit. I actually prefer Goku undershirtless so the "F" clothes plus the awesome boots was an instant win. The only thing I dislike about Vegeta's is it looks like his undershirt is pajamas :lol:

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Post by THEGOKU » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:36 pm

[spoiler]I've been around the inter webs and I have come across several rumors of Gohan getting back into battle in the next arc can anyone confirm this? The fact that nothing on this thread has been posted probably shows that it really is a rumor but I'd like to make sure.[/spoiler]

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Post by ekrolo2 » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:40 pm

THEGOKU wrote:[spoiler]I've been around the inter webs and I have come across several rumors of Gohan getting back into battle in the next arc can anyone confirm this? The fact that nothing on this thread has been posted probably shows that it really is a rumor but I'd like to make sure.[/spoiler]
Gohan's gonna become relevant when Japan finally grasps the concept of pacing.
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Post by dragonballhero » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:41 pm

FreddleFrooby wrote:So, speaking of character designs, which are the best designs?

Personally, I love Hit's look. Mysterious and badass. Magetta's also great. I'm fond of Copy-Vegeta's drippy texture.
My favorites would have to be:

Goku's ROF outfit (Though, I'd like it to have a more golden undertone to it. To help differentiate it more from his usual orange gi)
Vegeta's ROF armor
Future Trunks (black tank-top looked pretty badass, you can't deny that)
Future Mai looked pretty (and adorable)
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Bulma's "End-of-Namek"/Garlic Jr. filler arc look. (I take it I'm the only one here who likes Bulma with long hair, huh?)
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Gohan (Goku's gi)
Videl (Pigtails and BoG, though the short cut design and clothes she had used for the remainder of Majin Buu arc was pretty cute too)
Chi-Chi (pre-Majin Buu)
Goten (EoZ)
Trunks (hoodie)
Tight (As she appeared in Jaco the Galactic Patrolman with her long hair. Honestly, I can't say I'm very fond of her having such a short haircut like her little sister Bulma. It just...doesn't look right to me...)
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Post by kinisking » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:42 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
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Baggie_Saiyan wrote: Why I have such a soft spot for that movie. Especially loved the way Bulma looked. Best look since Namek imo.
A lot of the characters looked great. In fact, Id say it was probably the characters at their visual best. Besides for Gohan and Goku. Gohan for obvious reasons and Goku's old gi is pretty much perfection on him so the ROF outfit had too much to live up to.
Gohan definitely peaked with Piccolo clothes. His Saiyaman without the helmet looked pretty good. But I did dig the track suit. I actually prefer Goku undershirtless so the "F" clothes plus the awesome boots was an instant win. The only thing I dislike about Vegeta's is it looks like his undershirt is pajamas :lol:
Youre literally the opposite of me :lol: I prefer his original gi because of the boots and undershirt. Vegetas is great because of the colors imo. We rarely get grey or black clothes in dragonBall which is a shame.
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Post by Alruneia » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:45 pm

THEGOKU wrote:[spoiler]I've been around the inter webs and I have come across several rumors of Gohan getting back into battle in the next arc can anyone confirm this? The fact that nothing on this thread has been posted probably shows that it really is a rumor but I'd like to make sure.[/spoiler]
Rumour.
I mean, we're not even sure if the Hit thing on December 18th is going to be the beginning of a new arc or just a filler-like mini-arc (or even one-off). I suspect that some people are trying to use Future Trunks' importance in the Zamasu arc as evidence that they're going to bring more people into the story to not have "The Goku & Vegeta Show", and that that's why they're saying Gohan will return now, because he should be the next pick in that situation.
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:47 pm

THEGOKU wrote:I've been around the inter webs and I have come across several rumors of Gohan getting back into battle in the next arc can anyone confirm this? The fact that nothing on this thread has been posted probably shows that it really is a rumor but I'd like to make sure.
If it were substantiated, we would be talking about it and/or someone reliable would have covered it. That's a rule of thumb for ever single rumor, spoiler, leak, etc. Come on, it's been over a year. This should be common sense by now.

I guess if it slips you, just remember: If you really need to ask, the answer is probably "no".
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Post by kinisking » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:48 pm

It's hopes and dreams. Trust me, if that was confirmed everyone would be talking about it.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:53 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
THEGOKU wrote:[spoiler]I've been around the inter webs and I have come across several rumors of Gohan getting back into battle in the next arc can anyone confirm this? The fact that nothing on this thread has been posted probably shows that it really is a rumor but I'd like to make sure.[/spoiler]
Gohan's gonna become relevant when Japan finally grasps the concept of pacing.
So.... never?

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Post by ekrolo2 » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:17 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:
THEGOKU wrote:[spoiler]I've been around the inter webs and I have come across several rumors of Gohan getting back into battle in the next arc can anyone confirm this? The fact that nothing on this thread has been posted probably shows that it really is a rumor but I'd like to make sure.[/spoiler]
Gohan's gonna become relevant when Japan finally grasps the concept of pacing.
So.... never?
Never ever and then some :P
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ekrolo2 wrote:
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ekrolo2 wrote: Gohan's gonna become relevant when Japan finally grasps the concept of pacing.
So.... never?
Never ever and then some :P
Poor Gohan. I don't care much for the character, but I can understand why his fanbase would be so frustrated with his lack of real direction. This is what happen when you have a man who specialises in writing by the seat of his pants be the creative source of plot points of an anime. But that just makes it all the more entertaining, because you can literally see how much the mood of the fanbase can radically swing from end to another at any given week.

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Post by ekrolo2 » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:32 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Poor Gohan. I don't care much for the character, but I can understand why his fanbase would be so frustrated with his lack of real direction. This is what happen when you have a man who specialises in writing by the seat of his pants be the creative source of plot points of an anime. But that just makes it all the more entertaining, because you can literally see how much the mood of the fanbase can radically swing from end to another at any given week.
This is one area Toei could rectify things for his fans, there's no way they don't see the merchandise potential of having him do stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if all the Saiyan's and maybe Piccolo suddenly got bigger roles once Toriyama fucks off from writing the plots of Super.
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Post by SonsOfUlron21 » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:32 pm

Forget Gohan just bring back Piccolo my boy was mistreated in universe 6 arc.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:47 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:Poor Gohan. I don't care much for the character, but I can understand why his fanbase would be so frustrated with his lack of real direction. This is what happen when you have a man who specialises in writing by the seat of his pants be the creative source of plot points of an anime. But that just makes it all the more entertaining, because you can literally see how much the mood of the fanbase can radically swing from end to another at any given week.
This is one area Toei could rectify things for his fans, there's no way they don't see the merchandise potential of having him do stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if all the Saiyan's and maybe Piccolo suddenly got bigger roles once Toriyama fucks off from writing the plots of Super.
Guys guys guys. Gohan is coming back for sure. He will be the next one to get a super big power up. I can prove it. For you see Goku was the first to show of SSJ God, which was basically Kaio-Ken and couldn't last long. Goku was then the first to show off Super Saiyan Blue, followed by Vegeta. Trunks then showed off the next weird form thing...which means Gohan has to be next. If we follow the trio logic of Z, that means Gohan has to be next of course. Illuminati confirmed.

But uh...Trunks was the one who showed the new form before Vegeta in Z....so perhaps there is a pattern break.......fuck it...It'll be Pan who goes Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Rainbow.
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Post by Chuquita » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:51 pm

I'm so happy I didn't learn that Zamasu shares voice actors with Kojiro/James of Team Rocket until today because I know I would've been thinking about all the goofy shenanigans Team Rocket has gotten into the whole time otherwise.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:07 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:Illuminati confirmed.
That explains everything. They've been treating Gohan with so much mediocrity because that was all part of the plan put everyone in a false sense of security before he quickly rises up the rank and became the Mystic Super Saiyan Godly Blue Super Saiyan Ultimate that rules all and has both the Zeno's his bitches.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:53 pm

Personally, I'm completely fine with how Gohan is treated. We saw him growing up through the years into a powerful warrior, and he reached his peak by the end of Boo arc by becoming the strongest non-fused mortal warrior in the universe. But even in the original manga, he always had the potential, but his only motivation to fight was to protect his family & friends. He didn't like fighting, but the situations forced him to. Now the man is living his dream, he has his dream-job, he has his own family, and there is peace to the world. There are still conflicts, but they are small. The Beerus & Freeza conflicts lasted an afternoon, and the Zamasu conflict lasted a few days, in a parallel world. And the future conflicts will most likely continue like this. What's more, Goku & Vegeta have become far stronger than Gohan, and can become even more immensely stronger by becoming Vegetto, and SSB Vegetto will always be stronger than even a fully-trained SSB Gohan so there is no reason for Gohan to train to begin with. Even though Gohan grew weaker, he doesn't care that much because he isn't a fighter at heart.

Gohan had lots of cool moments, he reached his peak as a fighter, he is now is living his dream-life, and he isn't needed to fight (outside of fan-service). He grew weaker, but his dream wasn't to be a strong fighter, but to live the life that he is living now, which is what made him weaker. As a Gohan fan, I'm perfectly cool with this.

But I do feel a little sad for Piccolo, Kuririn, Tenshinhan, and Yamcha. These guys were true martial artists & had Goku as their goal to surpass, but they all ate his dust & half of them were forced to retirement... At least Kuririn has #18 & Marron.
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Post by Anime Kitten » Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:57 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:*snip*
Well said. This is exactly how I feel. There's no need for Gohan to train anymore, especially for those people who complain about "fanservice". If they said Gohan should be relevant once more, they'd be contradicting their own stance on "fanservice".
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Post by precita » Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:40 pm

They just need to get the focus away from Goku and Vegeta for a while. Future Trunks is gone now too, so who else to focus on?

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