Questioning the obvious stereotype of Zarbon

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Questioning the obvious stereotype of Zarbon

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Sat Nov 26, 2016 4:42 pm

Is he really gay?

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Re: Questioning the obvious stereotype of Zarbon

Post by Anime Kitten » Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:01 pm

No? Possibly? Probably not?

I never once got that impression from him. He may be strange visually, but I don't think he has any kind of attractions toward people in any sense. None that's hinted at, anyway.
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Re: Questioning the obvious stereotype of Zarbon

Post by precita » Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:16 pm

Zarbon's type of character is very common in anime. The pretty boy feminine looking guy...but most of the time in other shows they're straight.

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Re: Questioning the obvious stereotype of Zarbon

Post by Akyon » Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:01 pm

Well it was hinted at incredibly hard that General Blue was gay. Some of his traits included he hated getting dirty and despised ugliness. Zarbon has those exact same traits.

Japan was a little stereotypical towards gay characters back in the day, so it wouldn't surprise me if Zarbon was originally created to be homosexual. Still one of the best side villains IMO. Both him and Blue.

But since this is In-Universe; he's gay in the same way as Zamasu was; for himself.
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Re: Questioning the obvious stereotype of Zarbon

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:57 pm

Akyon wrote:Well it was hinted at incredibly hard that General Blue was gay. Some of his traits included he hated getting dirty and despised ugliness. Zarbon has those exact same traits.

Japan was a little stereotypical towards gay characters back in the day, so it wouldn't surprise me if Zarbon was originally created to be homosexual. Still one of the best side villains IMO. Both him and Blue.

But since this is In-Universe; he's gay in the same way as Zamasu was; for himself.
What actually shows General Blue as gay... other than rejecting Bulma? I'd turn her ratchet ass down too if I was him.

Anyways, Zarbon is just a bishonen who's fixated with his looks.
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Re: Questioning the obvious stereotype of Zarbon

Post by Akyon » Sun Nov 27, 2016 2:01 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
Akyon wrote:Well it was hinted at incredibly hard that General Blue was gay. Some of his traits included he hated getting dirty and despised ugliness. Zarbon has those exact same traits.

Japan was a little stereotypical towards gay characters back in the day, so it wouldn't surprise me if Zarbon was originally created to be homosexual. Still one of the best side villains IMO. Both him and Blue.

But since this is In-Universe; he's gay in the same way as Zamasu was; for himself.
What actually shows General Blue as gay... other than rejecting Bulma? I'd turn her ratchet ass down too if I was him.

Anyways, Zarbon is just a bishonen who's fixated with his looks.
Depends whether or not you want to take into account the creepy anime episodes where he seemed to crush on Obotchaman. Granted he's an android, but he's a male android...and worryingly designed as a young teenage boy.

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No, I'm not saying pedophilia is the same as being homosexual before anyone jumps the gun and overreacts to the above statement(can't be too careful these days), but he is crushing on a male android there. Thank god the dub changed it to a long lost brother semblance. Far less disturbing.

Still; my Zarbon statement rings true? He's only gay for himself. The narcassist!
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Re: Questioning the obvious stereotype of Zarbon

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:54 am

Akyon wrote:
DBZAOTA482 wrote:
Akyon wrote:Well it was hinted at incredibly hard that General Blue was gay. Some of his traits included he hated getting dirty and despised ugliness. Zarbon has those exact same traits.

Japan was a little stereotypical towards gay characters back in the day, so it wouldn't surprise me if Zarbon was originally created to be homosexual. Still one of the best side villains IMO. Both him and Blue.

But since this is In-Universe; he's gay in the same way as Zamasu was; for himself.
What actually shows General Blue as gay... other than rejecting Bulma? I'd turn her ratchet ass down too if I was him.

Anyways, Zarbon is just a bishonen who's fixated with his looks.
Depends whether or not you want to take into account the creepy anime episodes where he seemed to crush on Obotchaman. Granted he's an android, but he's a male android...and worryingly designed as a young teenage boy.

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Wow, I can't believe you're saying homosexuality is the same as pedophilia.

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Re: Questioning the obvious stereotype of Zarbon

Post by dbgtFO » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:06 am

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Akyon wrote: Depends whether or not you want to take into account the creepy anime episodes where he seemed to crush on Obotchaman. Granted he's an android, but he's a male android...and worryingly designed as a young teenage boy.

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Wow, I can't believe you're saying homosexuality is the same as pedophilia.
Em hello?
You completely left out the last part of his post, are you for real??!
Akyon wrote: No, I'm not saying pedophilia is the same as being homosexual before anyone jumps the gun and overreacts to the above statement(can't be too careful these days), but he is crushing on a male android there. Thank god the dub changed it to a long lost brother semblance. Far less disturbing.

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Re: Questioning the obvious stereotype of Zarbon

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:18 am

dbgtFO wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Akyon wrote: Depends whether or not you want to take into account the creepy anime episodes where he seemed to crush on Obotchaman. Granted he's an android, but he's a male android...and worryingly designed as a young teenage boy.

[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
Wow, I can't believe you're saying homosexuality is the same as pedophilia.
Em hello?
You completely left out the last part of his post, are you for real??!
Akyon wrote: No, I'm not saying pedophilia is the same as being homosexual before anyone jumps the gun and overreacts to the above statement(can't be too careful these days), but he is crushing on a male android there. Thank god the dub changed it to a long lost brother semblance. Far less disturbing.
I was joking.

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Re: Questioning the obvious stereotype of Zarbon

Post by Akyon » Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:16 am

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
dbgtFO wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote: Wow, I can't believe you're saying homosexuality is the same as pedophilia.
Em hello?
You completely left out the last part of his post, are you for real??!
Akyon wrote: No, I'm not saying pedophilia is the same as being homosexual before anyone jumps the gun and overreacts to the above statement(can't be too careful these days), but he is crushing on a male android there. Thank god the dub changed it to a long lost brother semblance. Far less disturbing.
I was joking.
Have you considered working for Toei?

Back on topic; has it ever been confirmed that the alien races breed in the same way earthlings and saiyans do?
Wondering if Zarbon's species can be homosexual in the same sense as humans can be to begin with. I'd actually love a data book with details on all the weird and wonderful species we've met over the course of the series.
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Re: Questioning the obvious stereotype of Zarbon

Post by rereboy » Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:58 am

Steven Bloodriver wrote:Is he really gay?
He might not even have a gender, like the Nameks, for all we know.

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Re: Questioning the obvious stereotype of Zarbon

Post by TheMikado » Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:00 am

Zarbon was meant to be a pretty boy, (not openly gay).

This doesn't mean his character couldn't be just that this was not the original intention of his character and it was embellished on purpose to contrast his other transformation.

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Re: Questioning the obvious stereotype of Zarbon

Post by swimtrunks » Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:51 am

He's always reminded me of Vega from Street Fighter. As a child I was always under the impression he was just a pretty boy. As an adult, I can see the gay thing now but only because of his vocal tone.

Zarbon and King Cold both come off as being homosexual. The voice actors tend to sigh in a very drawn out feminine stereotypical way. Which I'm sure they're being directed to do.

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Re: Questioning the obvious stereotype of Zarbon

Post by TheMikado » Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:56 am

swimtrunks wrote:He's always reminded me of Vega from Street Fighter. As a child I was always under the impression he was just a pretty boy. As an adult, I can see the gay thing now but only because of his vocal tone.

Zarbon and King Cold both come off as being homosexual. The voice actors tend to sigh in a very drawn out feminine stereotypical way. Which I'm sure they're being directed to do.
Vega is a perfect example of a "pretty boy" not being gay as he has always been characterized with a strangle sexual innuendo and fixation of the female cast members. Think psuedo-suave serial rapist type.

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Re: Questioning the obvious stereotype of Zarbon

Post by Ki Breaker » Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:23 am

No where did he ever strike me as gay..
I still don't understand why is he called a gay..
All I see is a monster under disguise of a pretty boy..
That is scary when you think about it..
Your good looking friend suddenly tearing his skin up and emerges from within that hideous creature, having all intention to wreak stuff..

On the other hand, general blue was gay without a doubt
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Re: Questioning the obvious stereotype of Zarbon

Post by Lord Frieza » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:45 pm

I really don't think so. Zarbon is one of many characters who have very effeminate appearances and flamboyant /elegant dress sense but are in no way gay. He's in the same vain as Yuda from Fist of the North Star.

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Believe it or not this guy has a harem of very beautiful women at his beck and call and with whom he dose sleep with despite his looks. This type of character was a product of the 80's, lots of rock bands looked like this and many of them were heterosexual.

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That was the fade back then and some guys still dress that way now because they like it. Zarbon is the same, his personality and style are just who he is personally and has nothing to do with his sexuality.

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