Tenshinhan an alien?
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Tenshinhan an alien?
Iv'e just heard a rumor of sorts, that in Daizenshuu #7 it mentions that Tenshinhan is an alien. Or of extraterrestial origin.
Is this really true?
Is this really true?
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Re: Tenshinhan an alien?
Yup, it does say that he's a descendant of a race of three-eyed aliens.
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No. It's more likely that he got his third eye and mystical powers through special mystical discipline. In modern mysticsm the third eye is considered to be real and a organ of advanced sight, ability to sense auras, and to see into the spirtual realm. All of these are brought on by meditation and the concentration on one's pineal gland. So he isn't an alien. Just a human who has obtained mystical powers.
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Yes, the seventh Daizenshû does say that. That was the question.Bardock the Mexican wrote:No.
Sorry, but... What kind of demonstration is that? Where did you prove that he wasn't an alien, exactly?It's more likely that he got his third eye and mystical powers through special mystical discipline. In modern mysticsm the third eye is considered to be real and a organ of advanced sight, ability to sense auras, and to see into the spirtual realm. All of these are brought on by meditation and the concentration on one's pineal gland. So he isn't an alien. Just a human who has obtained mystical powers.
The character "Son Gokû" comes from "the Journey to the West". In "the Journey to the West", Son Gokû is a monkey. So Son Gokû isn't an alien. He's just a monkey.
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Thank you.
I'm just trying to confirm one of several claims in this terrifying blog.
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I'm just trying to confirm one of several claims in this terrifying blog.
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...................FunkmastaZeph wrote:Thank you.
I'm just trying to confirm one of several claims in this terrifying blog.
http://tenshinhanpowerlevels.blogspot.c ... chive.html
*cries* ............... *cries more*
I didn't look at all of that but... I'd take anything you find there as under suspiscion until verified elsewhere. :x I mean...
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# Tenshinhan(com/with x4 kaioh ken):2.400.000
# Tenshinhan (com /with x10 kaioh ken):6.000.000
# Tenshinhan(com/with x 20 kaioh ken):12.000.000
And in the Buu Saga they've got his BASE at frigging 750,000,000!
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They're not his words, technically, since he didn't actually write the Daizenshû. But I'd think the information does come from him, and that's all that matters, the way I see it.SaiyaMel wrote:If that isn't Mr Toriyama's words, it doesn't mean crap to me then..
Besides, Toriyama didn't actually make the anime either, if you go there, and some people still take it pretty seriously. :þ
Well, one way or the other, its not like it makes any real difference... The series is over. ^^;SaiyaMel wrote:i have long considered him human and still do.
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Regardless of what the Daizenshuu says, Tien is a Human. This is hinted at many times throughout the series. Such as the fact that everyone is like...
"ZOMGz, Goku and Piccolo are the alien-ness"
Considering they live on a planet with a Dog ruling the world, a 3'rd eye isn't so weird.
Also during the Goku/Piccolo fight in the 23'rd Budokai, Piccolo states the following:
"FOOL!! Why protect these worthless humans?"
Tien is classified in that group, as a human. Since this is never actually contacidcted. The line upholds and remains fact.
"ZOMGz, Goku and Piccolo are the alien-ness"
Considering they live on a planet with a Dog ruling the world, a 3'rd eye isn't so weird.
Also during the Goku/Piccolo fight in the 23'rd Budokai, Piccolo states the following:
"FOOL!! Why protect these worthless humans?"
Tien is classified in that group, as a human. Since this is never actually contacidcted. The line upholds and remains fact.
Not true, I'd never take a word from the Daizenshuu seriously that's not in the Manga. Esspecially when the Daizenshuu is known to directly contradict the Manga.They're not his words, technically, since he didn't actually write the Daizenshû. But I'd think the information does come from him, and that's all that matters, the way I see it.
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First, I would like to point out that Earthlings and human beings are two different things. You can be an Earthling without being a human being (the World King, for example), and you can be a human being without being an Earthling (I seem to remember the Saiyans are referred to as "ningen" / "human beings", for example).Lavender Saiyan wrote:Regardless of what the Daizenshuu says, Tenshinhan is a Human. This is hinted at many times throughout the series.
Then, I seem to remember the Daizenshû merely stated that Tenshinhan descended from extra-terrestrials. Now, that could mean many things.
Finally, we don't even know if Tenshinhan (or anybody else in the series, for that matter) is aware of all that. If nobody knows about Tenshinhan's extra-terrestrial ancestry, you can't exactly expect the series to hint at him being anything other than an Earthling.
True, but you could say the same thing about Gokû's tail...Considering they live on a planet with a Dog ruling the world, a 3'rd eye isn't so weird.
Well, that's you. I would.Not true, I'd never take a word from the Daizenshuu seriously that's not in the Manga.They're not his words, technically, since he didn't actually write the Daizenshû. But I'd think the information does come from him, and that's all that matters, the way I see it.
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Even if he didn't write them, they were made with his approval. That's good enough for me.Lavender Saiyan wrote:Not true, I'd never take a word from the Daizenshuu seriously that's not in the Manga. Esspecially when the Daizenshuu is known to directly contradict the Manga.They're not his words, technically, since he didn't actually write the Daizenshû. But I'd think the information does come from him, and that's all that matters, the way I see it.
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*cough*cough*GT*cough*Jerseymilk wrote:Even if he didn't write them, they were made with his approval. That's good enough for me.
The daizenshuu says he's an alien, but that's quite 'strange' considering how Toriyama writes. Toriyama makes it clear when someone is non-human, even if that character wasn't originally intended to be an alien. Look at Goku and Piccolo. Both were introduced as non-aliens, but as Toriyama changed the story, they became aliens.
So Ten could be an alien, but there's nothing in the series proper to support that, and such a statement is very unlike Toriyama's writing style.
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The dub was also made with his approval. What's the difference?Jerseymilk wrote:Even if he didn't write them, they were made with his approval. That's good enough for me.Lavender Saiyan wrote:Not true, I'd never take a word from the Daizenshuu seriously that's not in the Manga. Esspecially when the Daizenshuu is known to directly contradict the Manga.They're not his words, technically, since he didn't actually write the Daizenshû. But I'd think the information does come from him, and that's all that matters, the way I see it.
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Uh ya....that's not even an accurate comparison. The Daizenshuu were made to be companion guide books to the series. Toriyama himself makes a foreword at the beginning of them, praising the job the staff did at sorting out his work. I don't seem to recall Toriyama doing that with Funi's dub.Pieter wrote:The dub was also made with his approval. What's the difference?Jerseymilk wrote:Even if he didn't write them, they were made with his approval. That's good enough for me.Lavender Saiyan wrote: Not true, I'd never take a word from the Daizenshuu seriously that's not in the Manga. Esspecially when the Daizenshuu is known to directly contradict the Manga.
As for Desire's point about GT, hey, that's good enough for me too.*shrug* Just as the entirety of the anime version is, which he's always stated he was pleased with and even worked with the animators sometimes. I may not personally like GT, but Toriyama does. That's just tough for me isn't it?
Really when it comes down to it, it's *his* work. He can leave unanswered questions and change up as much as he wants. Honestly, some people here are starting to sound as bad as "otakukin". *shudders*>>
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I have never read or seen the Daizenshuu. I don't like the idea that Tenshinhan is an alien. The third eyeball is very well known as being a feature of not only Buddhism and Hinduism (who paint a dot to represent it on their foreheads) which explains how Toriyama might have known it. There is the other explanation that Tenshinhan is based off the Chinese god of a similar appearance.
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Keeping power levels aside there was a huge, thread-thing about Tien being an alien, that or him and Krillin being of extraterrestrial decent. You should find it if you use the search option. You'll get answers upon answers upon answers there...I think he's human more specifically an earthing (broad term) but I heard he was from "a three-eyed tribe". My word is law so take thats the answer..[/joke..?]
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