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List of characters who can ride the Nimbus cloud

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:06 pm

We may know who can or can't ride that yellow puff cloud but there are characters we are not sure can or can't ride it

Characters who officially can ride it
-Goku
-Gohan
-Chi-Chi
-Goten
-Upa
-Blue-haired Lunch
-Kami (expelled the evil from within him)

Characters who officially can't ride it
-Muten Roshi
-Bulma
-Kid Krillin
-Vegeta (Piccolo doubted his purity)

Unknown cases who probably can ride it
-Gyumao
-Adult Krillin (able to harness the Spirit Bomb)
-Dende
-Future Trunks
-Videl (after dating Gohan)
-Piccolo (after fusing with Kami)

Unknown cases who probably can't ride it
-Blonde Lunch
-Mr. Satan
-Present Trunks


What y'all think...?
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Post by Akyon » Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:45 pm

Oolong's a no brainer "nope". Elder Kai too. Pilaf for sure as he's as devious as Kid Krillin was. Shuu and Mai may be different though. They've never come off as very 'bad' themselves.

I'm curious where Tenshinhan and Yamcha would be though. Yamcha I'm leaning towards "no" but Tenshinhan seems to have thrown off worldy possessions to dedicate his time entirely to training. Somehow I doubt Piccolo could.
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Post by Esfír Dedragón » Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:49 pm

I thought it was more specific in the Original Japanese that if you had sexual lust, you couldn't ride it?

Or was that retconned?
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Post by Akyon » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:30 am

Just reread Volume 13. Yajirobe asks Korin to let him have a Nimbus too. Korin states he doesn't think Yajirobe will be able to ride it. Considering Yajirobe is never seen riding one and instead uses a hover car, I'd say he's incapable.
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Post by Doctor. » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:46 am

Could Zamasu ride it? I know this seems ridiculous on paper, but "purity" in Dragon Ball has never been characterized as "pure good", but more-so having a simple desire and doing everything to achieve it. Zamasu's desire involves killing people but he doesn't exactly think he's doing anything wrong.

Also, Oob has been confirmed being able to ride it and I'm pretty sure Mr. Boo could too.

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Post by GodKaio-Ken » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:57 am

Doctor. wrote:Could Zamasu ride it? I know this seems ridiculous on paper, but "purity" in Dragon Ball has never been characterized as "pure good", but more-so having a simple desire and doing everything to achieve it. Zamasu's desire involves killing people but he doesn't exactly think he's doing anything wrong.

Also, Oob has been confirmed being able to ride it and I'm pretty sure Mr. Boo could too.
I don't really agree with the top portion and would say no way in hell Zamasu could ride it. I also doubt Mr. Buu can ride it as he's been shown to have an extremely short temper. He isn't exactly "Good" due to that temper. The dude wanted to kill Beerus over pudding.
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Doctor. wrote:Could Zamasu ride it? I know this seems ridiculous on paper, but "purity" in Dragon Ball has never been characterized as "pure good", but more-so having a simple desire and doing everything to achieve it. Zamasu's desire involves killing people but he doesn't exactly think he's doing anything wrong.

Also, Oob has been confirmed being able to ride it and I'm pretty sure Mr. Boo could too.
I don't really agree with the top portion and would say no way in hell Zamasu could ride it. I also doubt Mr. Buu can ride it as he's been shown to have an extremely short temper. He isn't exactly "Good" due to that temper. The dude wanted to kill Beerus over pudding.
He's literally Fat Boo's good, though.

Also, if the SSG ritual is anything to go by, Trunks, Vegeta and Pan should be able.

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GodKaio-Ken wrote:
Doctor. wrote:Could Zamasu ride it? I know this seems ridiculous on paper, but "purity" in Dragon Ball has never been characterized as "pure good", but more-so having a simple desire and doing everything to achieve it. Zamasu's desire involves killing people but he doesn't exactly think he's doing anything wrong.

Also, Oob has been confirmed being able to ride it and I'm pretty sure Mr. Boo could too.
I don't really agree with the top portion and would say no way in hell Zamasu could ride it. I also doubt Mr. Buu can ride it as he's been shown to have an extremely short temper. He isn't exactly "Good" due to that temper. The dude wanted to kill Beerus over pudding.
I don't think a short temper should exclude him since it's not necessarily a negative trait. Anger is a natural emotion but he probably can't because he's now essentially Eric Cartman.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: List of characters who can ride the Nimbus cloud

Post by GodKaio-Ken » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:05 am

Doctor. wrote:
GodKaio-Ken wrote:
Doctor. wrote:Could Zamasu ride it? I know this seems ridiculous on paper, but "purity" in Dragon Ball has never been characterized as "pure good", but more-so having a simple desire and doing everything to achieve it. Zamasu's desire involves killing people but he doesn't exactly think he's doing anything wrong.

Also, Oob has been confirmed being able to ride it and I'm pretty sure Mr. Boo could too.
I don't really agree with the top portion and would say no way in hell Zamasu could ride it. I also doubt Mr. Buu can ride it as he's been shown to have an extremely short temper. He isn't exactly "Good" due to that temper. The dude wanted to kill Beerus over pudding.
He's literally Fat Boo's good, though.

Also, if the SSG ritual is anything to go by, Trunks, Vegeta and Pan should be able.

He can be all the good he wants but if he's killing people over pudding he's not pure hearted. Maybe there just wasn't much good there to begin with :lol:


Agreed on the last point...though I'd still be hesitant about Vegeta most of the three.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:13 am

Daimao and Grey Buu probably could.
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He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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GodKaio-Ken wrote:
Doctor. wrote:Could Zamasu ride it? I know this seems ridiculous on paper, but "purity" in Dragon Ball has never been characterized as "pure good", but more-so having a simple desire and doing everything to achieve it. Zamasu's desire involves killing people but he doesn't exactly think he's doing anything wrong.

Also, Oob has been confirmed being able to ride it and I'm pretty sure Mr. Boo could too.
I don't really agree with the top portion and would say no way in hell Zamasu could ride it. I also doubt Mr. Buu can ride it as he's been shown to have an extremely short temper. He isn't exactly "Good" due to that temper. The dude wanted to kill Beerus over pudding.
I don't think a short temper should exclude him since it's not necessarily a negative trait. Anger is a natural emotion but he probably can't because he's now essentially Eric Cartman.
LOL The last line was pretty funny.

Anger might be natural but basically what you just said is that if someone at a party asks for pudding I can slaughter them and be a good person. Not sure I'm willing to concede that :lol: but since I doubt we will ever see him try so its possible he can. I dont think he's BAD, just not pure in the true sense of the word.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:45 am

GodKaio-Ken wrote:Anger might be natural but basically what you just said is that if someone at a party asks for pudding I can slaughter them and be a good person. Not sure I'm willing to concede that :lol: but since I doubt we will ever see him try so its possible he can. I dont think he's BAD, just not pure in the true sense of the word.
Being short temper isn't the same as being a selfish asshole. It's basically just overreacting to slights.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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GodKaio-Ken wrote:Anger might be natural but basically what you just said is that if someone at a party asks for pudding I can slaughter them and be a good person. Not sure I'm willing to concede that :lol: but since I doubt we will ever see him try so its possible he can. I dont think he's BAD, just not pure in the true sense of the word.
Being short temper isn't the same as being a selfish asshole. It's basically just overreacting to slights and shit.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Post by LuckyCat » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:31 am

Pan could ride it (Not sure about GT Pan)


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Post by nickzambuto » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:23 pm

People need to understand that pure hearted does not mean pure good. The actual definition of pure is as follows:

(1) not mixed or adulterated with any other substance or material.
(2) without any extraneous and unnecessary elements.
(3) free of any contamination.

Goku's purity of heart trait relates back to Dragon Ball's Buddhist themes of detachment and clarity. Goku can go around and murder as many Red Ribbon Soldiers and Namekian demons as he wants, but as long as his mind and motives are "pure", he won't be excluded. Of course pure is an extremely subjective term in this context, but I think a lot of Dragon Ball characters would fall under the definition. Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, and Goten are all absolutely pure. They have pure desires, be it Goku and Vegeta's will to fight for the sake of fighting, or Goten's free, unadulterated spirit. The only saiyan I'm hesitant on is Trunks, both present and future.

I'm also hesitant on Piccolo, Tenshinhan, Beerus, and adult Krillin. Mr. Boo is absolutely pure of heart though, again it doesn't matter that he was willing to kill Beerus over pudding. It's because all of his motives were plain and surface level; he was angry because he wanted the pudding. He said that explicitly, he had nothing to hide, no deeper emotions or psychological reaction. It's not that he just didn't like Beerus personally, or he was offended, or anything extra like that. He just wanted pudding, period. It's one thing, therefore it's pure.

I don't think Freeza is pure of heart or desires, because although he is pure evil, his motives are clouded and realistically complex. As in he's not a freak saiyan who just wants to fight for fun and doesn't even care if they die. That's pure of motive. Freeza's greed is much more complex like that of a real person. Cell on the other hand, with his pure self obsession and delusions of perfection, might be pure of heart.

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Post by ShadowBardock89 » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:18 pm

Hmm... You guys forgot about Arale. She can ride it.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:35 pm

Pretty certain Korin could ride the Numbus, as well. I mean, he was the one who gave it to Roshi originally. I'd assume he could also ride on it, too

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Post by Lunatic Fringe » Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:47 pm

Android 16 could probably ride it.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:03 pm

Lunatic Fringe wrote:Android 16 could probably ride it.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:54 pm

ShadowBardock89 wrote:Hmm... You guys forgot about Arale. She can ride it.
I'm pretty sure if I put my toaster on it, it wouldn't fall through.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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