Why is everything being placed within the 10-year time gap?

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Re: Why is everything being placed within the 10-year time gap?

Post by Darkprince410 » Sun Dec 04, 2016 3:26 am

Toriyama stated that he used the time frame of after Buu but before the end of Z (the 28th Budoukai arc) when he created Battle of Gods because he felt that was when the characters were at their strongest, and that they'd be too old if it took place after Z entirely.

From his 2013 interview for V-Jump:
With regards to the time frame of “for the first time in 39 years”, the movie’s setting is after the defeat of Majin Boo, and also prior to the final chapter. Why is it that you chose this period?

When I decided, “For this movie, let’s go with the whole cast!” I thought, “What era would be best?” If it’s a few years after the “Majin Boo arc”, then almost all the cast members are at MAX strength…. And also, you know, in the final chapter, where Oob appears, I made [characters like] Bulma and Kuririn pretty old, so honestly, I thought, “Maaaybe it’s a biiit difficult” [to make the time period any later]. (laughs)
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Why did you set the story’s time frame after the defeat of Majin Boo?

It’s when all the members [of the cast] were at their strongest, so I thought it was just right. If it were at the time of the final chapter, Goku would be heading off somewhere with Oob, after all.
And since Super started by retelling the events of the two movies, then that's the logical reason for Super as well.

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Re: Why is everything being placed within the 10-year time gap?

Post by DanielSSJ » Sun Dec 04, 2016 3:46 am

WittyUsername wrote:Well, Bulma would also look noticeably older, which I guess wouldn't be too good for her "sex appeal". :D
I'm not sure how much "sex appeal" they're trying to cash in on with all the "sagging breasts" jokes they lob at Bulma.
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Re: Why is everything being placed within the 10-year time gap?

Post by precita » Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:19 am

Bulma aged terribly in the Uub episodes. Perhaps Super will retcon that look for her if they re-do those episodes.

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Re: Why is everything being placed within the 10-year time gap?

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:30 pm

precita wrote:Bulma aged terribly in the Uub episodes. Perhaps Super will retcon that look for her if they re-do those episodes.
She didn't really age that bad, in all honesty. I mean, she was in her fifties by that time. So to be honest, she looked quite good for her age.

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Re: Why is everything being placed within the 10-year time gap?

Post by precita » Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:36 pm

Women in their 50's still look good for their age these days. Obviously in the time the manga/anime was written back in 1995....50 year old women looked...well old.

But a 50 year old woman in the 2010's certainly doesn't look that old anymore.

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Post by eledoremassis02 » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:56 pm

precita wrote:Women in their 50's still look good for their age these days. Obviously in the time the manga/anime was written back in 1995....50 year old women looked...well old.

But a 50 year old woman in the 2010's certainly doesn't look that old anymore.
Bulma was a smoker too tho. So she aged well consider ing

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Re: Why is everything being placed within the 10-year time gap?

Post by Dbzfan94 » Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:34 pm

precita wrote:Bulma aged terribly in the Uub episodes. Perhaps Super will retcon that look for her if they re-do those episodes.
I think the worst was her haircut that looked like she had a receding hairline

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Re: Why is everything being placed within the 10-year time gap?

Post by precita » Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:20 pm

Wasn't Pan 3 years old in EOZ? Or was she 5? I don't remember.

Let's say in Super she's already a 1 year old baby, so we're saying EOZ is only 2 years from the current time?

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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:24 pm

precita wrote:Wasn't Pan 3 years old in EOZ? Or was she 5? I don't remember.

Let's say in Super she's already a 1 year old baby, so we're saying EOZ is only 2 years from the current time?
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Re: Why is everything being placed within the 10-year time gap?

Post by Attitudefan » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:48 am

WittyUsername wrote:
precita wrote:Its ironic because Super barely uses kid Trunks or Goten anyway, so what's the point?

Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Piccolo, etc. barely look any different after the timeskip. The only major changes are Goten and Trunks are young adults.
Well, Bulma would also look noticeably older, which I guess wouldn't be too good for her "sex appeal". :D
I was gonna say the same thing :lol: :lol: :lol:

Most likely this is actually the case. Although, I don't see why we couldn't have newer younger characters to fill the spaces needed to appeal to different crowds. But even Tenshinhan, Piccolo, Yamcha, Krillin, and others would also be very old and probably not be able to play the roles believably like they could if they were younger. Although, I would love to see the cast aged to that extent. It's kinda like growing old with them. :D

EDIT: Dark Prince got this exact point from the source! There you go.

Also, 50 year old women still look really old. Sure make-up and digital camera filters can hide age (these days), but seriously, 50 plus people tend to age very quickly (think of it like puberty, but for older folks). Men and women, if exercising and keeping a decent diet can still look fine into their 40s, but generally by their 50s, tend to age very quickly within that decade. And even if the body is kept fit, skin still wrinkles and sags, some worse than others, but it is impossible to prevent completely (as is with hair greying/thinning/balding). Also, by their 50s, the average person tends to lose 1 inch of height.

Look at Ric Flair. He looked fine up until he hit his 50s. He had a thick head of hair, his face barely aged when compared to how he looked in his 20s when he was in his 40s. But, in his 50s he aged rapidly. Within a year of his 54th year it seemed as if he aged 10 years (this would be 2003). By 2005, he looked like a different person. His hair was thinning rapidly and his body became compressed. I believe he had surgery on his face to get rid of wrinkles in late 03, there is still a massive amount of aging he did in his 50s. Compare him from 2002 (he looked as he did in the 80s) to 2006. His aging process took over considerably. It is quite shocking actually.


Another person who aged rapidly in their 50s was Dave Mustaine. Same thing happened to him as Flair. Rapid aging within his 50s. It almost seemed like he never aged while he was in his 40s. Yet, by his 50s, experienced massive aging (especially in the face).

I implore anyone to check out people from 49 years old to their late 50s. I assure you that this quick aging process happens to everyone. Hence, it's why people in their 40s experience a 'mid-life crisis" for their youthful looks and physical conditions will deteriorate rapidly in their 50s even if they are healthy.
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Re: Why is everything being placed within the 10-year time gap?

Post by precita » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:10 am

50 year old women still don't look that bad nowadays assuming they take care of themselves. Many 50 year old woman nowadays can still pass from being in their late 30's or early 40's.

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Re: Why is everything being placed within the 10-year time gap?

Post by TheGreatness25 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:17 am

Well seeing as Bulma is a cartoon, she can be design any way that Akira Toriyama wants to even as an 80 year old. But what's that have to do with anything? Does anyone believe that Bulma's design had anything to do with any of this?

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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:17 am

TheGreatness25 wrote:Well seeing as Bulma is a cartoon, she can be design any way that Akira Toriyama wants to even as an 80 year old. But what's that have to do with anything? Does anyone believe that Bulma's design had anything to do with any of this?
Not just her, everyone's younger designs are more marketable.
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Post by TheGreatness25 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:20 am

But like it's been mentioned, nobody's design is really touched upon. From what I understand, none of the characters are really predominantly used and the ones that are would have lookd the same anyway.

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Re: Why is everything being placed within the 10-year time gap?

Post by Attitudefan » Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:01 am

It's probably beyond the scope of Dragon Ball, but I'd love to see the characters deal with situations when they're older. Like, physical weakness due to old age. It could explain why new enemies are not as strong as Buu but still give everyone trouble because they're not in their prime years anymore. It would be a neat dynamic but I doubt Toriyama would touch that at all.
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Re: Why is everything being placed within the 10-year time gap?

Post by TheGreatness25 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:07 pm

I truly believe that the real reason that everything takes place during the 10-year time period between the kid Boo fight and the last episode of Z, is the same reason why Goten and Trunks look the same, the same reason that Freeza was brought back, the same reason why Vegeta's armor was brought back: Nostalgia factor. I truly believe that Super is meant to play on people's nostalgia and that's why no risks were taken with character designs. Only future Trunks's design was changed and look at the backlash for that... I mean it wasn't undeserved, his hair was a really odd choice seeing as his young counterpart still had purple hair.

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Post by Ssenrof » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:52 pm

The aging argument is kinda crap. It's heavily implied that masters of Ki have significantly delayed aging rates look at mercenary Tao.

As for Bulma- she could just get whatever anti aging cream her mother has.

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Re: Why is everything being placed within the 10-year time gap?

Post by Robo4900 » Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:00 am

I don't think we'll get any post-EoZ content unless GT storylines are redone, or we get some sort of direct sequel to GT. After all, Toei want to keep the Shadow Dragons, Baby, Pan, and most of all Super Saiyan 4 marketable.

Honestly, I'd love to see some post-EoZ content. We could see Oob being awesome, Pan has a lot of potential(We might finally see the SSG transformation, as in Super Saiyan Girl), adult Gotenks would be awesome, and if GT(Or GT Kai or whatever) is somehow canon, having no Dragon Balls would raise the stakes a lot, which would be really nice.
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Re: Why is everything being placed within the 10-year time gap?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:22 am

They can still use SSj4 Goku and other GT characters for merchandise and video games. Xenoverse has GT and DBZ Movies 1-13 as alternate timelines.
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Re: Why is everything being placed within the 10-year time gap?

Post by DanielSSJ » Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:53 am

Dbzfan94 wrote:I think the worst was her haircut that looked like she had a receding hairline
It seems ironic to me that Future Bulma actually ended up aging better than her present day counterpart. Though, I'd definitely lay the blame on a bad haircut.
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