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Post by kinisking » Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:41 pm

I think I've finally come to enjoy Mr. Satan's character. At first I hated him for taking Gohan's thunder ( I hate when things like that happen in general) and also for acting like such a coward. But I don't know man, re-reading the Boo saga made me enjoy him a lot. Just re-affirms my opinion had the best version of almost every character.
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Post by ABED » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:38 am

kinisking wrote:I think I've finally come to enjoy Mr. Satan's character. At first I hated him for taking Gohan's thunder ( I hate when things like that happen in general) and also for acting like such a coward. But I don't know man, re-reading the Boo saga made me enjoy him a lot. Just re-affirms my opinion had the best version of almost every character.
Does liking Mr. Satan later in the story affect how you feel about him in earlier parts of the story?
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Post by kinisking » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:09 am

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kinisking wrote:I think I've finally come to enjoy Mr. Satan's character. At first I hated him for taking Gohan's thunder ( I hate when things like that happen in general) and also for acting like such a coward. But I don't know man, re-reading the Boo saga made me enjoy him a lot. Just re-affirms my opinion had the best version of almost every character.
Does liking Mr. Satan later in the story affect how you feel about him in earlier parts of the story?
That and the back story Akira Toriyama gave in an interview definitely made me tolerate him a lot more. He has some moments in the Cell saga that remind me of his boo saga self which makes me appreciate the Cell saga version more. Btw, In my last sentence I was trying to say the boo saga had the best version of most characters.
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Post by Robo4900 » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:26 am

Anyone know if the UK version of the Kai Season One Blu-Ray still uses the Kenji Yamamoto soundtrack?
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Post by ABED » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:38 am

Best in terms of the most interesting?
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Post by kinisking » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:03 pm

ABED wrote:Best in terms of the most interesting?
Definitely. Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Mr. Satan, Goten, Trunks, Videl were all at their peak.
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Post by ABED » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:10 pm

kinisking wrote:
ABED wrote:Best in terms of the most interesting?
Definitely. Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Mr. Satan, Goten, Trunks, Videl were all at their peak.
I agree in some cases like Mr. Satan and Trunks from the main timeline (as opposed to Future Trunks), but I think Gohan and Goku are more interesting at different points in the series. The more I think about it, this seems like a discussion that could be its own thread.
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Post by Nejishiki » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:14 pm

Robo4900 wrote:Anyone know if the UK version of the Kai Season One Blu-Ray still uses the Kenji Yamamoto soundtrack?
To my knowledge, Manga UK released it with the Yamamoto score, yes. I'm not sure if all copies are like that but I distinctly remember that being confirmed long ago.

90sDBZ claims the original score remained intact. TheWhiz claimed that it eventually stops playing during Season 2. That was a year ago, so it's likely still the case, but I recommend skepticism until you can confirm it with your purchase attempt.
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Post by Robo4900 » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:25 pm

Thank you very much. I guess I'll have to get the season discs and then keep an eye out for a deal for Part 4.
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Post by Khin » Fri Dec 09, 2016 6:26 pm

Anyone have a shot of Pilaf Arc Bulma in the flashback scene in BoG ? Would really appreciate it.
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Post by Lunatic Fringe » Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:17 am

Was it ever explained why Goku never bothered to grab any Senzu beans before flying off to confront Raditz?
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:46 am

He wasn't thinking about that. He was pissed and he wanted his son back
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Post by rereboy » Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:06 am

Lunatic Fringe wrote:Was it ever explained why Goku never bothered to grab any Senzu beans before flying off to confront Raditz?
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Post by ekrolo2 » Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:58 pm

Is there anything besides the Full-Color releases that implies KK giving its user red eyes?
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:00 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:Is there anything besides the Full-Color releases that implies KK giving its user red eyes?
In Toriyama's original colored pages, Super Saiyans would often have red eyes when angry. That probably implies something.
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Post by ekrolo2 » Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:04 pm

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ekrolo2 wrote:Is there anything besides the Full-Color releases that implies KK giving its user red eyes?
In Toriyama's original colored pages, Super Saiyans would often have red eyes when angry. That probably implies something.
Really? Did he make any such distinction in the later arcs when it being mastered became possible?
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:06 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
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ekrolo2 wrote:Is there anything besides the Full-Color releases that implies KK giving its user red eyes?
In Toriyama's original colored pages, Super Saiyans would often have red eyes when angry. That probably implies something.
Really? Did he make any such distinction in the later arcs when it being mastered became possible?
Haven't gotten that far yet. There weren't many colored pages in that era from what I've seen, so there's probably nothing too distinct.
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Post by Soppa Saia People » Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:19 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:Is there anything besides the Full-Color releases that implies KK giving its user red eyes?
In Toriyama's original colored pages, Super Saiyans would often have red eyes when angry. That probably implies something.
Isn't that just for limited color parts ?
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:28 pm

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ekrolo2 wrote:Is there anything besides the Full-Color releases that implies KK giving its user red eyes?
In Toriyama's original colored pages, Super Saiyans would often have red eyes when angry. That probably implies something.
Isn't that just for limited color parts ?
Could be, I honestly don't remember. Not all that interested in checking atm either. I'm sure you could find the colored pages online.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sun Dec 11, 2016 6:26 am

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:From a narrative standpoint, Kaioshin didn't need names when they were first introduced, they were addressed by their title. The only reason they need names now is because there are so many, and they hold the same positions, only in separate universes. From an in-universe standpoint, they probably do have names, we just don't know them.
Sailor Haumea wrote:I get the feeling Universe 7's Eastern Supreme Kai is literally named Shin. :P
Herms' twitter today mentions that this is the case, or at least that they're treating "Shin" as his name now on the DBS website.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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