"Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

[Godgoku95]

i'm sorry that i'm asking for a reply again but will canada get the english dub somehow too? i wanna support the dub

[Baggie_Saiyan]

i'm sorry that i'm asking for a reply again but will canada get the english dub somehow too? i wanna support the dub

Yes. FUNi's license covers Canada they will definitely get it on home video/streaming at least.

TV Broadcast depends on whether Canadian stations will accept DBS first and then whether they'd accept an American dub.

[Godgoku95]

i'm sorry that i'm asking for a reply again but will canada get the english dub somehow too? i wanna support the dub

Yes. FUNi's license covers Canada they will definitely get it on home video/streaming at least.

TV Broadcast depends on whether Canadian stations will accept DBS first and then whether they'd accept an American dub.

I don't have FunimationNow but i will pay for a year when it is out

[TheBlackPaladin]

I've seen videos of groups of people in japan recording together...

That''s not a dub, though. That's the original version.

Still, though, the argument that I've heard as to "why we dont dub ensemble" is "flaps/sync". But most anime are recorded with ADR in Japanese, so...what's the difference?

There are two differences. Firstly, in many cases, they are actually voicing to storyboards, not always the complete animation. While the original Japanese version many have been recorded in a dub-like manner, since it was the original audio track, it is still not considered a dub.

Secondly, Japan doesn't care about matching lip movements. Or rather, they don't care as much as we--and a lot of other international audiences--do. If you'll notice, the lip flaps often aren't super-precise in the original Japanese version. As it was explained to me by a dubbing director, the reason for this is because Japan, for many, many decades now, has been used to importing shows from other countries...so they're used to the lip movements not matching. As such, in Japan, there's just this general cultural belief that that's how animation works...the lip movements don't match 100%, and they don't mind it. For that matter, the only que the actors get as to when to start speaking (outside of the animation) is to watch the timecode at the bottom of the screen and guestimate the delivery time. Since they don't care as much about lip flaps as other countries, they don't feel the necessity for a queing system like the three ADR beeps or the rhythmo-band. As long as it loosely fits the lip flaps...ish...they're OK with it.

For other countries who do care about lip-syncing, though, recording in groups is not usually practical, which is why you don't see a ton of group recordings for dubs outside of dubs with a rhythmo-band involved.

[Gafonso6]

I have a question, do you guys think they'll make dub the opening like every other internatiobal release until now with the official English lyrics or do you think they'll use the japanese one that has the English lyrics?

[TheBlackPaladin]

I have a question, do you guys think they'll make dub the opening like every other internatiobal release until now with the official English lyrics or do you think they'll use the japanese one that has the English lyrics?

My guess is that they're gonna go with songs sung by Masatoshi Ono and Junear with English lyrics. I have three reasons to suspect this. First off, while there haven't been a ton of dubs of TFC so far, there have been at least two (French and Korean), and we know more are on the way. They've all used the original songs. Secondly, the Catalan dub (not sure if it's out yet) said that they'll be using the original songs as well, specifically noting that they "don't have the authorization to dub the songs."

Finally...the last two lead into this one: I think Toei may have stopped allowing for dubbed songs. I could be wrong, or at least partially wrong, but Avex Trax, the record label that provides the One Piece songs, issued a "stop dubbing our songs" order a few years ago, and so it's reasonable to assume that Columbia Records, who provide most of the Dragon Ball songs, did the same. All of the international releases of BoG and RoF have used English covers of the original Japanese songs sung by the original Japanese singers...even on the Japanese audio track, for that matter. My theory is that either Toei or the record companies decided that they might have been missing a financial opportunity by having their songs dubbed, or missing a financial opportunity to put more songs out there by creating English cover versions, or both. Since English is considered the international language, somebody must have just figured, "Y'know, let's take advantage of this and make English versions ourselves."

[Gafonso6]

I have a question, do you guys think they'll make dub the opening like every other internatiobal release until now with the official English lyrics or do you think they'll use the japanese one that has the English lyrics?

My guess is that they're gonna go with songs sung by Masatoshi Ono and Junear with English lyrics. I have three reasons to suspect this. First off, while there haven't been a ton of dubs of TFC so far, there have been at least two (French and Korean), and we know more are on the way. They've all used the original songs. Secondly, the Catalan dub (not sure if it's out yet) said that they'll be using the original songs as well, specifically noting that they "don't have the authorization to dub the songs."

Finally...the last two lead into this one: I think Toei may have stopped allowing for dubbed songs. I could be wrong, or at least partially wrong, but Avex Trax, the record label that provides the One Piece songs, issued a "stop dubbing our songs" order a few years ago, and so it's reasonable to assume that Columbia Records, who provide most of the Dragon Ball songs, did the same. All of the international releases of BoG and RoF have used English covers of the original Japanese songs sung by the original Japanese singers...even on the Japanese audio track, for that matter. My theory is that either Toei or the record companies decided that they might have been missing a financial opportunity by having their songs dubbed, or missing a financial opportunity to put more songs out there by creating English cover versions, or both. Since English is considered the international language, somebody must have just figured, "Y'know, let's take advantage of this and make English versions ourselves."

Well I have news for you, Toei hasn't stopped allowing dubbed songs, all the international Super releases (Israel, South Korea and Portugal) have had the opening song dubbed, that's why I asked. I'll leave the links to the openings if you want to check them out.

Hebrew dub: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWJPPT8yCZc
Portuguese dub (this is my favourite since it's my country's version and it has our Goku singing it): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWJPPT8yCZc
Korean dub: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSgop8RILfg

[ArchedThunder]

I do hope we get a dubbed version of the OP. If we don't I hope they at least used the Japanese language version and not the bad english version that the original band did.

[TheBlackPaladin]

I have a question, do you guys think they'll make dub the opening like every other internatiobal release until now with the official English lyrics or do you think they'll use the japanese one that has the English lyrics?

My guess is that they're gonna go with songs sung by Masatoshi Ono and Junear with English lyrics. I have three reasons to suspect this. First off, while there haven't been a ton of dubs of TFC so far, there have been at least two (French and Korean), and we know more are on the way. They've all used the original songs. Secondly, the Catalan dub (not sure if it's out yet) said that they'll be using the original songs as well, specifically noting that they "don't have the authorization to dub the songs."

Finally...the last two lead into this one: I think Toei may have stopped allowing for dubbed songs. I could be wrong, or at least partially wrong, but Avex Trax, the record label that provides the One Piece songs, issued a "stop dubbing our songs" order a few years ago, and so it's reasonable to assume that Columbia Records, who provide most of the Dragon Ball songs, did the same. All of the international releases of BoG and RoF have used English covers of the original Japanese songs sung by the original Japanese singers...even on the Japanese audio track, for that matter. My theory is that either Toei or the record companies decided that they might have been missing a financial opportunity by having their songs dubbed, or missing a financial opportunity to put more songs out there by creating English cover versions, or both. Since English is considered the international language, somebody must have just figured, "Y'know, let's take advantage of this and make English versions ourselves."

Well I have news for you, Toei hasn't stopped allowing dubbed songs, all the international Super releases (Israel, South Korea and Portugal) have had the opening song dubbed, that's why I asked. I'll leave the links to the openings if you want to check them out.

Hebrew dub: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWJPPT8yCZc
Portuguese dub (this is my favourite since it's my country's version and it has our Goku singing it): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWJPPT8yCZc
Korean dub: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSgop8RILfg

Heh...confession time: I got this thread mixed up with the FUNimation Kai-Buu dub thread. Still, this is news to me, and pleasant news at that. Some dubbed songs are fantastic! On that note, I'd be interested to hear the Portuguese dub as well (it appears you posted the link to the Hebrew dub twice). Also, just to clarify, would this be Brazilian Portuguese or European Portuguese?

[Gafonso6]

My guess is that they're gonna go with songs sung by Masatoshi Ono and Junear with English lyrics. I have three reasons to suspect this. First off, while there haven't been a ton of dubs of TFC so far, there have been at least two (French and Korean), and we know more are on the way. They've all used the original songs. Secondly, the Catalan dub (not sure if it's out yet) said that they'll be using the original songs as well, specifically noting that they "don't have the authorization to dub the songs."

Finally...the last two lead into this one: I think Toei may have stopped allowing for dubbed songs. I could be wrong, or at least partially wrong, but Avex Trax, the record label that provides the One Piece songs, issued a "stop dubbing our songs" order a few years ago, and so it's reasonable to assume that Columbia Records, who provide most of the Dragon Ball songs, did the same. All of the international releases of BoG and RoF have used English covers of the original Japanese songs sung by the original Japanese singers...even on the Japanese audio track, for that matter. My theory is that either Toei or the record companies decided that they might have been missing a financial opportunity by having their songs dubbed, or missing a financial opportunity to put more songs out there by creating English cover versions, or both. Since English is considered the international language, somebody must have just figured, "Y'know, let's take advantage of this and make English versions ourselves."

Well I have news for you, Toei hasn't stopped allowing dubbed songs, all the international Super releases (Israel, South Korea and Portugal) have had the opening song dubbed, that's why I asked. I'll leave the links to the openings if you want to check them out.

Hebrew dub: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWJPPT8yCZc
Portuguese dub (this is my favourite since it's my country's version and it has our Goku singing it): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWJPPT8yCZc
Korean dub: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSgop8RILfg

Heh...confession time: I got this thread mixed up with the FUNimation Kai-Buu dub thread. Still, this is news to me, and pleasant news at that. Some dubbed songs are fantastic! On that note, I'd be interested to hear the Portuguese dub as well (it appears you posted the link to the Hebrew dub twice). Also, just to clarify, would this be Brazilian Portuguese or European Portuguese?

It's European portuguese and here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUlsT5G006g. This channel actually has some clips from our dub and the previews, also some parodies if you fo some reason hear some other songs over the endings, I recommend ignoring our Vegeta until episode 8, the actor did a terrible job, but thankfully is doing a great job now.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I do hope we get a dubbed version of the OP. If we don't I hope they at least used the Japanese language version and not the bad english version that the original band did.

FUNi don't seem to have a great poole of singers if I'm honest. Vic is probably their best, Jerry and Brina aren't too bad either I suppose. Bottom line I hope they don't rotate as much as they did in Kai if they're dubbed either stick with one or a few.

[TheBlackPaladin]

I'm glad to hear that Portugal got a dub this time around (since they didn't get one for Kai). So, have any of the ending songs been dubbed as well?

[Gafonso6]

I'm glad to hear that Portugal got a dub this time around (since they didn't get one for Kai). So, have any of the ending songs been dubbed as well?

In Portugal no, Korea no idea, but in Israel yes.
Thanks for the sympathy, you're lucky for never having to suffer for not having Kai dubbed, especially with those flashbacks in Super.

[TheBlackPaladin]

I'm glad to hear that Portugal got a dub this time around (since they didn't get one for Kai). So, have any of the ending songs been dubbed as well?

In Portugal no, Korea no idea, but in Israel yes.
Thanks for the sympathy, you're lucky for never having to suffer for not having Kai dubbed, especially with those flashbacks in Super.

Well, if it makes you feel better, it wasn't just Portugal. A number of countries--including countries that dubbed the two new movies and are in the process of dubbing Super--said no to dubbing Kai because they just didn't see the point of dubbing what they considered to be a rehash of an old show.

[ArchedThunder]

I do hope we get a dubbed version of the OP. If we don't I hope they at least used the Japanese language version and not the bad english version that the original band did.

FUNi don't seem to have a great poole of singers if I'm honest. Vic is probably their best, Jerry and Brina aren't too bad either I suppose. Bottom line I hope they don't rotate as much as they did in Kai if they're dubbed either stick with one or a few.

They could always hire a non VA singer to do the singing.

[TheBlackPaladin]

I do hope we get a dubbed version of the OP. If we don't I hope they at least used the Japanese language version and not the bad english version that the original band did.

FUNi don't seem to have a great poole of singers if I'm honest. Vic is probably their best, Jerry and Brina aren't too bad either I suppose. Bottom line I hope they don't rotate as much as they did in Kai if they're dubbed either stick with one or a few.

They could always hire a non VA singer to do the singing.

FUNimation does non-union dubs almost exclusively, with the extremely rare exception being cases where they've picked up the sequel or spinoff series to something that was previously a union dub (in which case they'll do a union dub to get the original cast back). Other than those rare occasions, though, they only do non-union dubs, and the Dragon Ball dubs they've done in-house have all been non-union.

[ArchedThunder]

FUNimation does non-union dubs almost exclusively, with the extremely rare exception being cases where they've picked up the sequel or spinoff series to something that was previously a union dub (in which case they'll do a union dub to get the original cast back). Other than those rare occasions, though, they only do non-union dubs, and the Dragon Ball dubs they've done in-house have all been non-union.

I don't see how that stops them from hiring someone who's not a voice actor to sing the opening.

[TheBlackPaladin]

FUNimation does non-union dubs almost exclusively, with the extremely rare exception being cases where they've picked up the sequel or spinoff series to something that was previously a union dub (in which case they'll do a union dub to get the original cast back). Other than those rare occasions, though, they only do non-union dubs, and the Dragon Ball dubs they've done in-house have all been non-union.

I don't see how that stops them from hiring someone who's not a voice actor to sing the opening.

Haha...it doesn't. I apologize, I misread your post, I thought you wrote "non-union singer," when in fact what you wrote was "non-VA singer."

Soooo, yeah, I agree. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[simtek34]

Only Chozetsu☆Dynamic and Forever Dreaming have English covers. So will FUNimation have half English/half Japanese, all Japanese songs, or Dub them. (If Toei allows them)

[ArchedThunder]

Only Chozetsu☆Dynamic and Forever Dreaming have English covers. So will FUNimation have half English/half Japanese, all Japanese songs, or Dub them. (If Toei allows them)

Dub Chozentsu Dynamic and leave the EDs in Japanese.