Guys...Episode 66...Vegetto DID kill Black! Just not Zamasu!

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Re: Guys...Episode 66...Vegetto DID kill Black! Just not Zamasu!

Post by Ki Breaker » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:10 am

Fionordequester wrote: Was that something that was just thrown in for dramatic license? I mean, Trunks gets it really briefly too, at 3:18...but that was just for that one line.
This theory explains everything perfectly, so it's most likely the intended case..
So I will go with what you said, even trunks has a voice change for a bit, it's definitely there for dramatic effect..

Vegetto killed his mortal half, zamasu was weak, trunks cut him, and this is the reason only Zamasu's face covered the sky, not merged Zamasu's..
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Re: Guys...Episode 66...Vegetto DID kill Black! Just not Zamasu!

Post by Abra kadabra » Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:40 am

DHM211 wrote:I like this theory. It would also explain why only Zamasu, not merged Zamasu's face appears in the sky after he gets cut in half.
Because merged zamasu was dead. And f. zamasu is immortal.Trunks killed merged zamasu and Zeno killed F. Zamasu. This is Literally what the show tells us.

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Re: Guys...Episode 66...Vegetto DID kill Black! Just not Zamasu!

Post by Shuby » Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:42 pm

I don't care about headcanons and theories, they show should've explained it, point fucking clear.If it does not, guess what, it's still poorly written. Stop making excuses. :shh: :shh: :shh:

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Re: Guys...Episode 66...Vegetto DID kill Black! Just not Zamasu!

Post by Yomi » Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:26 am

Shuby wrote:I don't care about headcanons and theories, they show should've explained it, point fucking clear.If it does not, guess what, it's still poorly written. Stop making excuses. :shh: :shh: :shh:
Just because something isn't spoon-fed doesn't mean it's poorly written. That's kinda backwards.
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Re: Guys...Episode 66...Vegetto DID kill Black! Just not Zamasu!

Post by supersaiyangodgogeta » Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:03 am

This wouldn't be evidence of anything even if what you are saying is true(don't feel like checking for such a trivial detail that wasn't even a thought in the minds of Toei).

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Re: Guys...Episode 66...Vegetto DID kill Black! Just not Zamasu!

Post by Shuby » Sun Dec 11, 2016 7:23 am

Yomi wrote:
Shuby wrote:I don't care about headcanons and theories, they show should've explained it, point fucking clear.If it does not, guess what, it's still poorly written. Stop making excuses. :shh: :shh: :shh:
Just because something isn't spoon-fed doesn't mean it's poorly written. That's kinda backwards.
But if you do that often enough then it is :clap:

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Re: Guys...Episode 66...Vegetto DID kill Black! Just not Zamasu!

Post by Alee9977 » Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:55 pm

It's a good theory but It's unlikely to be true, first of all, since the moment Goku and Vegeta fuse Zamasu's voice is different, also, If he actually killed Black, Zamasu shouldn't be able to use that pink ki sword, the potara fusion isn't half Black and half Zamasu, it's the creation of a new being with habilities from both Black and Zamasu, so Black's half can't die, or that's how I see it.

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Re: Guys...Episode 66...Vegetto DID kill Black! Just not Zamasu!

Post by GodKaio-Ken » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:16 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:
Fionordequester wrote: Was that something that was just thrown in for dramatic license? I mean, Trunks gets it really briefly too, at 3:18...but that was just for that one line.
This theory explains everything perfectly, so it's most likely the intended case..
So I will go with what you said, even trunks has a voice change for a bit, it's definitely there for dramatic effect..

Vegetto killed his mortal half, zamasu was weak, trunks cut him, and this is the reason only Zamasu's face covered the sky, not merged Zamasu's..
I just want to point out it has nothing to do with why only Zamasu appeared in the sky.

Once the body died only the immortal soul could survive. Whether Black died from the Final Kamehameha or the sword slash only Zamasu would have been in the sky.
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Re: Guys...Episode 66...Vegetto DID kill Black! Just not Zamasu!

Post by Khin » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:38 pm

As already said by other guys, Black and Zamasu merged into one. Their body were just separated because of the mortal and immortal contradiction. When Black and Future Zamasu fused, their power merged and become many times greater, their mind become one, etc, etc. Hence why Zamasu still have Black's memory and can use his technique even after Goku ''killed'' the Black part Zamasu.

Likewise, Future Zamasu and Black's body were separated because of the mortal and immortal body contradiction. Black was gone for good after Trunks sliced them in half. But the Future Zamasu part survived because of the immortality, which is why the face of the Future Zamasu was the one that was shown when he's trying to become one with the universe
SansrivaaL wrote:The echo was gone soon after Goku destroyed the ring of light on his back.
It was still present after that. Most notably when Zamasu explains to Vegetto why he took over Goku's body.

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Re: Guys...Episode 66...Vegetto DID kill Black! Just not Zamasu!

Post by TheShadowEmperor8055 » Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:21 am

Interesting theory. I see the pros of it (Zamasu's echo voice disappearing) and the cons (Black Rose/F. Zamasu were already dead once they fused). Though question (and this may throw the thread off topic a bit, I apologize): If the fusees "cease to exist" once the fusion is completed, doesn't the fusion of Kibito and Kaioshin contradict that notion? Because if Kaioshin "ceased to exist" then technically the same should have happened to Beerus, but he was still fine AND Kibito Kaioshin was fused while watching Beerus and Goku fight. Guess that's just another retcon Super threw in there. :think:

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Re: Guys...Episode 66...Vegetto DID kill Black! Just not Zamasu!

Post by buutenks » Fri Dec 16, 2016 2:21 am

Seems like wishful thinking to me.

Also, Zamasu didn't got weak, he got slower due to becoming huge. He had no issues block Vegetto's punches and even tanked the final kameha without even a need to regenerate.

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