Unpopular DB opinions

[rereboy]

Android #16's head literally lands in mid-speech with Cell. He's in the middle of saying 殺せ！(korose means "kill!") but the interruption makes that break off having him only say "koros-". The only reason why people are interested in #16 at all is that he's flung in-between Gohan and Cell. And like you said, #16 just tried to kill Cell a moment ago, so it's not odd at all that Cell would be curious what #16 was up to.

In the manga, Cell had already ordered the Cell jrs to kill them off before #16's head lands and there is no speech interrupted by it. In fact, Cell orders their death in two different panels before #16 head lands. Cell might have looked to #16's head after that but there is no reason for the Cell Jrs to disregard the order that they had just been given and pause.

[ekrolo2]

Black looks better with the golden SS than with Rose.

[WobbuSleuth]

If you think about it, Buu saga very similar to a typical fanfic. Many years have passed since the last saga, seemingly ridiculous changes in the status quo, Marty Suy-ish characters, VERY absurd new techniques (Fusion), villains with lack of decent motivation and so on. Don't get me wrong, it's my least favorite saga in Z, excluding Cell saga, but it was enjoyable and somewhat strange experience.

[RandomGuy96]

If you think about it, Buu saga very similar to a typical fanfic. Many years have passed since the last saga, seemingly ridiculous changes in the status quo, Marty Suy-ish characters, VERY absurd new techniques (Fusion), villains with lack of decent motivation and so on. Don't get me wrong, it's my least favorite saga in Z, excluding Cell saga, but it was enjoyable and somewhat strange experience.

You just described every arc.

[ABED]

villains with lack of decent motivation and so on

What's a decent motivation for a villain?

[WobbuSleuth]

If you think about it, Buu saga very similar to a typical fanfic. Many years have passed since the last saga, seemingly ridiculous changes in the status quo, Marty Suy-ish characters, VERY absurd new techniques (Fusion), villains with lack of decent motivation and so on. Don't get me wrong, it's my least favorite saga in Z, excluding Cell saga, but it was enjoyable and somewhat strange experience.

You just described every arc.

Really? Fits only Saiyan saga, and even changes in it are kinda natural.

[WobbuSleuth]

villains with lack of decent motivation and so on

What's a decent motivation for a villain?

I probably incorrectly expressed. Not a "decent" motivation but the presence of motivation. Buu didn't have one.

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villains with lack of decent motivation and so on

What's a decent motivation for a villain?

I probably incorrectly expressed. Not a "decent" motivation but the presence of motivation. Buu didn't have one.

He wasn't a mindless beast, he had motivation for what he was doing. He was having fun and he found destruction to be fun.

[Doctor.]

Black looks better with the golden SS than with Rose.

People should get castrated for such blasphemy.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Mentioned this another thread but Kelamis' performance as Goku is severely overrated, yes that ONE scream was reminscent of Nozawa but the rest of performance was not. Struggling to find clips that aren't from that scene, the rest of the work is what I'd consider forgettable some of grunts and screams were pretty awful and his regular non screaming voice sounds nothing like Nozawa just sounds like a Corlett impression.

Hell I'd class Marrow above Kelamis. I'm not being fooled by one albeit great scream in one scene. I suppose one could argue with the right direction etc he could very well be as close to the Japanese Goku as a dub could get but that's all if's but's and maybe's.

[Doctor.]

Mentioned this another thread but Kelamis' performance as Goku is severely overrated, yes that ONE scream was reminscent of Nozawa but the rest of performance was not. Struggling to find clips that aren't from that scene, the rest of the work is what I'd consider forgettable some of grunts and screams were pretty awful and his regular non screaming voice sounds nothing like Nozawa just sounds like a Corlett impression.

Hell I'd class Marrow above Kelamis. I'm not being fooled by one albeit great scream in one scene. I suppose one could argue with the right direction etc he could very well be as close to the Japanese Goku as a dub could get but that's all if's but's and maybe's.

It's not that Kelamis is exceptional, it's just that everyone else is crappier.

[DBZAOTA482]

Ian James Corlette is the definitive Goku.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Mentioned this another thread but Kelamis' performance as Goku is severely overrated, yes that ONE scream was reminscent of Nozawa but the rest of performance was not. Struggling to find clips that aren't from that scene, the rest of the work is what I'd consider forgettable some of grunts and screams were pretty awful and his regular non screaming voice sounds nothing like Nozawa just sounds like a Corlett impression.

Hell I'd class Marrow above Kelamis. I'm not being fooled by one albeit great scream in one scene. I suppose one could argue with the right direction etc he could very well be as close to the Japanese Goku as a dub could get but that's all if's but's and maybe's.

It's not that Kelamis is exceptional, it's just that everyone else is crappier.

His performance as Goku was awful though for the most part have you heard some of his grunts and screams in the Cell arc? One scene doesn't make his entire performance as Goku less crap.

[Doctor.]

His performance as Goku was awful though for the most part have you heard some of his grunts and screams in the Cell arc? One scene doesn't make his entire performance as Goku less crap.

I don't think his entire performance was crap, it was decent. And again, it's not that Kelamis was exceptional, it's that every other english Goku is shit.

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Corlette is a fantastic actor, but a little flat as Goku, Kelamis is terrible but has great screams, Morrow is bland and unmemorable, and Schemmel took a little time, but he's great as Goku. This is unpopular but Schemmel was a breath of fresh air from the beginning after 20 plus episodes of Kelamis.

[ekrolo2]

I don't know how unpopular this is but I'd like for Steve Blum to get another chance at voicing Goku in something while we're on the subject of his English VAs.

[kinisking]

Black looks better with the golden SS than with Rose.

I agree. The grey eyes Rose had saved it from being a form I disliked, but gold is where it's at. I would have preferred ss white though..

[ekrolo2]

Black looks better with the golden SS than with Rose.

I agree. The grey eyes Rose had saved it from being a form I disliked, but gold is where it's at. I would have preferred ss white though..

I'm fine with him "getting" white with the fusion, it helps it look more supreme... I guess?

[Bansho64]

Black looks better with the golden SS than with Rose.

I agree. The grey eyes Rose had saved it from being a form I disliked, but gold is where it's at. I would have preferred ss white though..

Yeah, I prefer the SS look for him as well. If colored right, it could look beautiful on-screen. If the white transformation's the same as it was in the anime, then I personally wouldn't want it. I don't like how the anime just made his hair plain white without much to go with it. It could've been a lot more with effects scattered around it.

Corlette is a fantastic actor, but a little flat as Goku, Kelamis is terrible but has great screams, Morrow is bland and unmemorable, and Schemmel took a little time, but he's great as Goku. This is unpopular but Schemmel was a breath of fresh air from the beginning after 20 plus episodes of Kelamis.

You've mentioned your hate for Kelamis multiple times in this thread.

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I probably have in this 295 page thread. I've also mentioned it in several others. I don't get what you're getting at.