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[ekrolo2]

Would Gohan have managed to get SS3 if he kept training during the seven year gap like Heroes implies he could have?

I don't think so. Future trunks and vegeta never did. He'd probably have a really strong super saiyan 2 though.

You think they can't period or is there some requirement to getting 3 like a stronger body than usual or something?

[Noah]

You think they can't period or is there some requirement to getting 3 like a stronger body than usual or something?

That's probably the deal since neither Vegeta or Trunks had achieved after years of training

[ekrolo2]

How do you guys think Black's power increase works? A lot of people assume its Zenkai but I think its rather Black unlocking more of Goku's power.

Say, when he first fights SS2 Goku, he has access to 5-10% of Goku's bodies power and then afterward, he's got closer to 50-60% with Rose pumping it up until he has 100% access.

[Doctor.]

So how did Vegeta get as strong as first form Freeza when he pussied out against Ginyu and got no near-death boost after that?

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

So how did Vegeta get as strong as first form Freeza when he pussied out against Ginyu and got no near-death boost after that?

Plot conviniences?

[kinisking]

Now that I think about it, is there any proof that Tien and Piccolo still train? We all kind of assume but has it been stated? I think Piccolo's more if a train to maintain guy at this point while tien trains to grow.

[Bansho64]

Does anyone know what happened with this video? The video's in widescreen format and in HD with the English dub. I thought the English dub of Kai was never shown in 16x9? I'm also curious as to why the Oozaru effect had been added to Gohan's scream. I've never heard or seen this before.

[Noah]

Damn, this video made me miss Stephanie Nadolny so bad, I have nothing against Colleen Clinkenbeard, but her voice doesn't suit well on Kid (Pre-teen) Gohan to me.

[Freeza9000]

How to trigger Beerus 101: https://youtu.be/n5diMImYIIA

[Robo4900]

Does anyone know what happened with this video? The video's in widescreen format and in HD with the English dub. I thought the English dub of Kai was never shown in 16x9? I'm also curious as to why the Oozaru effect had been added to Gohan's scream. I've never heard or seen this before.

The widescreen is from the uploader zooming it in themself. Chaotic evil.

As for Gohan's scream, maybe it's a different mix from the one you've heard in the past.

[Bansho64]

The widescreen is from the uploader zooming it in themself. Chaotic evil.

As for Gohan's scream, maybe it's a different mix from the one you've heard in the past.

I thought that it was from them zooming in as well. But, I checked the Japanese broadcast version and it has the exact same selective cropping.

I'm guessing the user somehow took the footage from the Japanese dvd, fitted the English dub onto it, and added the Oozaru scream onto it.

[Danfun64]

...or either the French or German Blu-Rays, as they are 16:9 (and, of course, in HD as opposed to the Japanese DVD).

[SaiyanGod117]

Would a Goku and Bulma marriage work out?

[Nejishiki]

Now that I think about it, is there any proof that Tien and Piccolo still train? We all kind of assume but has it been stated? I think Piccolo's more if a train to maintain guy at this point while tien trains to grow.

There's never a direct reference towards the idea, if that's what you're asking. Going by their characters, Tenshinhan continues to farm as part of his daily routines and Piccolo continuously meditates, which is a form of training. However, there's never been any phrasing to indicate they've made noteworthy improvements since the Artificial Humans arc. I'm sure attention would be brought towards the subject if they improved their training methods in a significant manner.

While not exactly comparable, we did catch Turtle Hermit utilize hand-to-hand combat after bulking up. Beforehand, he only did so to charge his Kamehameha. It doesn't affect his established placement but it's something new he seems to have gained from personal training. He's now able to fight with that power, after all. In that regard, you could assume mostly every martial artist is still getting stronger. It's just not shaking up their previous status quo all the same as Turtle Hermit not surpassing his students.

[Doctor.]

Would a Goku and Bulma marriage work out?

Bulma seems pretty fine with letting Vegeta train all day and even leave Earth for extended periods of time, and that's all Goku really needs, along with an endless supply of food which he can get through Capsule Corp employees. I'd say it would probably work out better than Goku and Chi Chi's.

[TobyS]

Now that I think about it, is there any proof that Tien and Piccolo still train? We all kind of assume but has it been stated? I think Piccolo's more if a train to maintain guy at this point while tien trains to grow.

Because all the characters love martial arts so you need to provide evidence to the contrary advocating any change in the “they all train ” status quo.

Why is everyone so motivated to do this? Is it like GT where you want to put other characters down just to make saiyan characters look better by contrast? Because that's never actually even worked anyway.

[ekrolo2]

So, how does Black kill Hit in the anime since he's just SS2 tier before fighting Goku?

[Doctor.]

So, how does Black kill Hit in the anime since he's just SS2 tier before fighting Goku?

Zamasu's immortality could have played a big part in it. Either that, or Hit could have already died through some other means in the future timeline. Or they never killed Hit, but seeing as how Zamasu and Black keep saying the plan is almost complete, you'd think that Earth is the last planet left.

[ekrolo2]

So, how does Black kill Hit in the anime since he's just SS2 tier before fighting Goku?

Zamasu's immortality could have played a big part in it. Either that, or Hit could have already died through some other means in the future timeline. Or they never killed Hit, but seeing as how Zamasu and Black keep saying the plan is almost complete, you'd think that Earth is the last planet left.

Still, if they did fight Hit its really weird that Black apparently doesn't power up from fighting him much at all. He's still SS2 tier like he was in his old body.

[Doctor.]

So, how does Black kill Hit in the anime since he's just SS2 tier before fighting Goku?

Zamasu's immortality could have played a big part in it. Either that, or Hit could have already died through some other means in the future timeline. Or they never killed Hit, but seeing as how Zamasu and Black keep saying the plan is almost complete, you'd think that Earth is the last planet left.

Still, if they did fight Hit its really weird that Black apparently doesn't power up from fighting him much at all. He's still SS2 tier like he was in his old body.

It makes more sense in the manga because Hit is a complete weakling there and Black already has SS from the get-go, but yeah, in the anime it doesn't make much sense to think Black and Zamasu could have killed Hit and Black remained a weakling.

Then again, Trunks did say when Goku and Black were fighting that it seemed like Black was stronger in the future, so it seems Black was hiding his power against Goku. So, realistically, he was SS3-tier or so in base. We also don't know if he has access to SS like manga Black does, he went straight to Rosé.