Does anyone else think Super is awful?

[Boo Machine]

I like Super just fine. I've been enjoying it. The show hasn't really done anything for me to think it's awful. Doesn't reach expectations and it's potential, sure, but not awful. It's probably average at worst and pretty good at best.

[Lord Beerus]

Super is certainly awful in some departments. I've actually gone into length in the past about Super's major shortcomings. But it hasn't stopped me from watching and enjoying the show.

[LuckyCat]

It's decent. It'll hit the occasional high note with fight scenes and comedy episodes. The anime has some really poorly-written filler which, at best, is completely forgettable.

The music is very bland. Even Kai had some catchy tracks, but Sumitomo's work in Super has been average so far.

Hope things get better in the next arc.

[sintzu]

I don't think it's awful but it's very flawed.

Keep in mind that most fans who like it are already DB fans so we're not going to judge it like others would.

I'd say that Super is a good DB anime but not a good anime.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I don't think it's awful but it's very flawed.

Keep in mind that most fans who like it are already DB fans so we're not going to judge it like others would.

I'd say that Super is a good DB anime but not a good anime.

Oh I definitely agree with this. I do think it's an above average anime, there was a lot of crap in 2016 I ended up dropping a lot of shows and the Black arc being good did make it go from average to above average for me (though I have a pretty bad gut feeling for the next arc and it might push it back down). I don't think we'll ever get to a point where a DB anime will be considered good or great, I think maybe the first half of OG DB would be considered good maybe but Z and GT along with Super are certainly far from good.

[sintzu]

I think maybe the first half of OG DB would be considered good maybe.

You don't think the Piccolo arcs can make the cut ?

[Gafonso6]

I don't think it's awful but it's very flawed.

Keep in mind that most fans who like it are already DB fans so we're not going to judge it like others would.

I'd say that Super is a good DB anime but not a good anime.

Oh I definitely agree with this. I do think it's an above average anime, there was a lot of crap in 2016 I ended up dropping a lot of shows and the Black arc being good did make it go from average to above average for me (though I have a pretty bad gut feeling for the next arc and it might push it back down). I don't think we'll ever get to a point where a DB anime will be considered good or great, I think maybe the first half of OG DB would be considered good maybe but Z and GT along with Super are certainly far from good.

I totally agree with sintzu and Baggie_Saiyan, this is the reason why I get the same enjoyment from Super and Z.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I think maybe the first half of OG DB would be considered good maybe.

You don't think the Piccolo arcs can make the cut ?

Tbh I don't remember it as much lol I have only seen the second half of OG DB once, currently doing a rewatch of OG DB in OG JPN just finished the Yamcha bandit stuff so a ways to go yet!

[tomwew]

My god yes. i haven't watched since the arale episode and have completely lost interest in further dragon ball stories. the girlfriend and i were so excited for super we've been huge fans for years. i have the orange/blue/green bricks, dragon box, kai and a library of games.
i've spent far too much of my life (and earnings) pondering power levels, what makes characters tick, making sense of retcons/plot holes/inconsistencies etc. and just generally thinking about dragon ball but now i just don't care. From the exaggerated personalities, non sense, pointless, fluctuating power ups and power levels to the off putting, ugly extremely inconsistent art and animation that at it's absolute best (all 30 seconds of it) is still only broaching above mediocre there's nothing left for me to enjoy.

i don't care if 17 meets goku because which goku is he meeting? the retard who's stolen goku's body in super? i don't care if gohan's back in the fray because vital information (in a battle shonen) like 'how powerful is he compared to other characters?' 'what training has he endured which has restored/built upon his power?' won't be addressed and any moment any character can jump drastically in power just from screaming. That was once a satirically exaggerated mocking of Z, in super it's exactly what happens. A charaters entire multiverse including heaven can be wiped out and it's given two minutes of breathing time and barely any emotional weight as with a wave of the deus ex whis Trunks is off to a different timeline that's close enough to his own, meh to everyone he's ever known who's wiped from existence i guess.

I know there's a bit of a defense force on here who love super and defend it's flaws, or even deny they exist, calling super 'on par with z' or it's problems are 'nothing new'. I've even seen some suggest that super is better in both story and animation than one punch man and attack on titan! But the caliber of fan on here and the average western ten year old boy and nostalgic millenial who this show will soon be targeting are not one in the same. In a way i hope super doesn't do well in the west as it will demonstrate the kids today have some level of taste and aren't swayed entirely by brand recognition. It may even force toei/toriyama/whoever to put some more thought into the franchise as a story and animation.

sorry for the rant i lurk a lot don't post much and no one i know besides the missus watches super to entertain my rants.

[FortuneSSJ]

Honestly, these complaints about Super just seem copy & paste at this point. Person A said this, and now some others just spread it. No different from GT hate.
Some points are interesting to read, while others just don't make sense and looks like some people don't even know what they are talking about, because they are just following the hate flow.

[Tsufuru]

there are only a few "awful" powerlevel porblem and thats it.
other things are either bad , mediocre or good.
its mediocre most of the time and the good make up for the bad easiely.

you are exaggerating.
dbs manga is the most pointless thing ever and the diffrent routes they take are not worth making a manga.
its to rushed.

[Avok]

It's a mediocre show, yes. I just watch it because it's Dragon Ball and I grew up with the franchise, but it hurts to see what it has become.

The content itself is pretty harmless (writing has never been Dragon Ball's selling point) but the actual characterisation is just painfully bad. And then the poor production value just makes everything to fall apart. Not to mention the little details characters looking younger than they really are, to say something.

There has been some good and very good moments along the way, so there's that.

[GodKaio-Ken]

Funny because i feel the exact opposite. I love the anime (despite its admitted flaws) but think the manga is terrible.

[ailema88]

Honestly, these complaints about Super just seem copy & paste at this point. Person A said this, and now some others just spread it. No different from GT hate.
Some points are interesting to read, while others just don't make sense and looks like some people don't even know what they are talking about, because they are just following the hate flow.

You read my mind.. all these hate really bored me.. I think it should exist a forum where haters and non conformist fans will be able to relieve all his complains about DB (animation, childish Goku, weak Gohan etc etc..) while people that don't care a sh#% about those things are happy to have new stories and adventures in DBS and enjoy every single episode. I had have my complains about some episodes or things that had happend in the arcs but that is not a reason to hate the show or define the whole show as "awful"

[Gafonso6]

Honestly, these complaints about Super just seem copy & paste at this point. Person A said this, and now some others just spread it. No different from GT hate.
Some points are interesting to read, while others just don't make sense and looks like some people don't even know what they are talking about, because they are just following the hate flow.

You read my mind.. all these hate really bored me.. I think it should exist a forum where haters and non conformist fans will be able to relieve all his complains about DB (animation, childish Goku, weak Gohan etc etc..) while people that don't care a sh#% about those things are happy to have new stories and adventures in DBS and enjoy every single episode. I had have my complains about some episodes or things that had happend in the arcs but that is not a reason to hate the show or define the whole show as "awful"

Couldn't agree more, this post feels like a mating call to haters, not to say they don't have the right to hate, they absoltely have, but I don't think this type of Topics should exist in a civilized forum because it could call the youtube comment section here, and nobody wants that. Oh and Happy New Year to every DB fan.

[Nano]

It is 80% trash. 20% enjoyable and that 20% is enough to keep me wanting to watch the show. So, yeah it is an awfully made show with awful production values for the most part.

This is basically how I feel about Super.

[SaiyanGod117]

Yea it was pretty awful, up until the Trunks arc, than it turned from awful to bad.

[HeroR]

This thread is really just a circle of jerks thread, especially when the title is 'Does anyone else thing Super is Awful?'. The answer is always yes, there will always be people who will think something is awful. It's no different than someone opening a thread and asking, 'Does anyone else think GT is Good?'.

Is Super awful, that is up to you to decide. If you don't like something, it shouldn't matter if people agree with you.

[alexhermit]

The inconsistent parts about this show just make me want to throw up. And writers really need to stop with constant throwing around bunch of tasteless comedy jokes, no one even finds it funny as its not done in unintentional way which a good gag has to have.

[SSJ Human]

My god yes.

I just fell in love with you over that rant. It was on point.

Honestly, these complaints about Super just seem copy & paste at this point. Person A said this, and now some others just spread it. No different from GT hate.
Some points are interesting to read, while others just don't make sense and looks like some people don't even know what they are talking about, because they are just following the hate flow.

You read my mind.. all these hate really bored me.. I think it should exist a forum where haters and non conformist fans will be able to relieve all his complains about DB (animation, childish Goku, weak Gohan etc etc..) while people that don't care a sh#% about those things are happy to have new stories and adventures in DBS and enjoy every single episode. I had have my complains about some episodes or things that had happend in the arcs but that is not a reason to hate the show or define the whole show as "awful"

Couldn't agree more, this post feels like a mating call to haters, not to say they don't have the right to hate, they absoltely have, but I don't think this type of Topics should exist in a civilized forum because it could call the youtube comment section here, and nobody wants that. Oh and Happy New Year to every DB fan.

So when people talk about what they like in regards to this series, they're okay and the chance of disagreement is lowered but when it's the other way around with criticism being applied then there's an issue? I don't understand that. Part of what makes any community great is having diverse views. You have some people on here that will swear to you that the Boo Saga was great and the Cell Saga was awful; I feel the opposite way but wouldn't say there should be another place for them to go with their opposing opinions.

This thread is really just a circle of jerks thread, especially when the title is 'Does anyone else thing Super is Awful?'. The answer is always yes, there will always be people who will think something is awful. It's no different than someone opening a thread and asking, 'Does anyone else think GT is Good?'.

Is Super awful, that is up to you to decide. If you don't like something, it shouldn't matter if people agree with you.

I asked because I didn't see anyone that was really laying out their critiques of the series and now I'm actually getting that with this thread.