"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by Gafonso6 » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:03 am

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kinisking wrote: If we're going to blame him, why not Champa? He started this tournament business
Nah, this is all Beerus's fault, if he had never dreamed about a ssgod, he would have never appeared on Earth or met Goku, so there would be no tournament.
Actually it's all Bardock's fault if he didn't conceive Goku this all never would have happened, he should have pulled out :P
Actually it was Freeza's fault since he sent Bardock bacl in time to eventually create the Saiyan race.
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Post by Ki Breaker » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:04 am

sailorspazz wrote: Gokuu has no training partner, but the Great Saiyaman appears before him! However, the field is ruined by their sparring, and Chichi explodes with fury!!
I really hope this fury shit happens at the last part of the episode and Gohan legitimately gets to spar/train with Goku first..
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Post by Pannaliciour » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:16 am

Was it explained why (golden) Freeza didn't show up Future trunks timeline?

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Post by Ki Breaker » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:21 am

Pannaliciour wrote:Was it explained why (golden) Freeza didn't show up Future trunks timeline?
They don't have Dragonballs on earth in future anymore, and goku is dead, freeza can't be resurrected without Dragonballs and even if he was resurrected, he dosen't have anyone to take revenge against
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Post by Noah » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:28 am

sailorspazz wrote:Gokuu has no training partner, but the Great Saiyaman appears before him! However, the field is ruined by their sparring, and Chichi explodes with fury!!
That's sound awesome, hope Gohan don't stick with the Saiyaman-esque and eventually both turn in SSJ while sparring.
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Post by Ki Breaker » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:32 am

Noah wrote:
sailorspazz wrote:Gokuu has no training partner, but the Great Saiyaman appears before him! However, the field is ruined by their sparring, and Chichi explodes with fury!!
That's sound awesome, hope Gohan don't stick with the Saiyaman-esque and eventually both turn in SSJ while sparring.
Goku needing to turn SS against gohan while he isn't even ultimate :wtf:
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Post by Noah » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:46 am

Ki Breaker wrote:Goku needing to turn SS against gohan while he isn't even ultimate :wtf:
Yeah, you know... Power levels are bullsh**
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Post by mabalia » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:54 am

sailorspazz wrote: Gokuu has no training partner, but the Great Saiyaman appears before him! However, the field is ruined by their sparring, and Chichi explodes with fury!!
Will Chichi's kaioken appear again?!! Please super, make it canon! :lol:

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Post by Zamasu55 » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:10 am

Ki Breaker wrote:Goku needing to turn SS against gohan while he isn't even ultimate :wtf:
It's not that difficult. Goku has two bases, one without God-ki and one with it.
Gohan doesn't need to be Mystic to be above Goku's normal base, since he was as strong as his Buu-saga self against Ginyu-Tagoma.
I don't understand why people think Gohan is weak when he clearly isn't.

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Post by TheMikado » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:15 am

Ki Breaker wrote:
Pannaliciour wrote:Was it explained why (golden) Freeza didn't show up Future trunks timeline?
They don't have Dragonballs on earth in future anymore, and goku is dead, freeza can't be resurrected without Dragonballs and even if he was resurrected, he dosen't have anyone to take revenge against
Namek should still be around and I'm pretty sure they searched for Trunks too. I guess they couldn't get anyone to help them use the Namekian Dragonballs but Namekian can go evil so I can't imagine finding one to deflect was that hard to find.

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:15 am

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namekiansaiyan wrote:Can there even be a bigger arc for Dragon ball then the the universal survival arc? It also has the potential to be either the best arc or the worst arc of the franchise.
Big in what way? In terms of stakes I guess it's has the highest in terms of possible destruction. Compared with most other arcs is the same; either they live or they die.
All new arcs have the potential to be the best or the worst.
In terms of having all the strongest fightee fighting in a tournament to save their universe. This is the best possible premise for a Dragon ball story.

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Post by Ki Breaker » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:17 am

Zamasu55 wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:Goku needing to turn SS against gohan while he isn't even ultimate :wtf:
It's not that difficult. Goku has two bases, one without God-ki and one with it.
Gohan doesn't need to be Mystic to be above Goku's normal base, since he was as strong as his Buu-saga self against Ginyu-Tagoma.
I don't understand why people think Gohan is weak when he clearly isn't.
Lol good one :lol:
Almost thought you were being serious
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Ki Breaker wrote:
Pannaliciour wrote:Was it explained why (golden) Freeza didn't show up Future trunks timeline?
They don't have Dragonballs on earth in future anymore, and goku is dead, freeza can't be resurrected without Dragonballs and even if he was resurrected, he dosen't have anyone to take revenge against
Namek should still be around and I'm pretty sure they searched for Trunks too. I guess they couldn't get anyone to help them use the Namekian Dragonballs but Namekian can go evil so I can't imagine finding one to deflect was that hard to find.
They tried to search for new namek in rof movie but couldn't find it, that's the reason they had to come to earth..
Even the evil namekians died( if there were any ) during freeza saga to protect Dragonballs.. its not too much of a stretch to say there aren't many evil namekians lurking around namek today
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Post by Zamasu55 » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:22 am

Ki Breaker wrote:
Zamasu55 wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:Goku needing to turn SS against gohan while he isn't even ultimate :wtf:
It's not that difficult. Goku has two bases, one without God-ki and one with it.
Gohan doesn't need to be Mystic to be above Goku's normal base, since he was as strong as his Buu-saga self against Ginyu-Tagoma.
I don't understand why people think Gohan is weak when he clearly isn't.
Lol good one :lol:
Almost thought you were being serious
I was serious indeed. :lol:

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Post by Ki Breaker » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:25 am

Zamasu55 wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:
Zamasu55 wrote: It's not that difficult. Goku has two bases, one without God-ki and one with it.
Gohan doesn't need to be Mystic to be above Goku's normal base, since he was as strong as his Buu-saga self against Ginyu-Tagoma.
I don't understand why people think Gohan is weak when he clearly isn't.
Lol good one :lol:
Almost thought you were being serious
I was serious indeed. :lol:
Wait.. what?
You honesty believe gohan was as strong as buu arc against tagoma when he clearly states he can barely go SS anymore and has trained worth nothing..
There is nothing supporting the two base theory either, it's something fans came up with

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Post by Zamasu55 » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:55 am

Ki Breaker wrote:
Zamasu55 wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote: Lol good one :lol:
Almost thought you were being serious
I was serious indeed. :lol:
Wait.. what?
You honesty believe gohan was as strong as buu arc against tagoma when he clearly states he can barely go SS anymore and has trained worth nothing..
There is nothing supporting the two base theory either, it's something fans came up with
1. Ssj Gohan one-shots Ginyu who made literally destroyed Piccolo. If Gohan was so weak, why did he easily get rid of Ginyu? The latter is at least Super Perfect Cell tier.
2. So, you're telling me the two-base theory is made up. Okay, but you've got to explain how can Piccolo do that well against Frost. Or Cabba, whose base was equal to Vegeta's.
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Post by kinisking » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:55 am

I think Gohans as strong as his boo saga self before ultimate. He just has problems maintaining his strength. That'd still put him way above piccolo though.
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Post by Ki Breaker » Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:08 am

Zamasu55 wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:
Zamasu55 wrote: I was serious indeed. :lol:
Wait.. what?
You honesty believe gohan was as strong as buu arc against tagoma when he clearly states he can barely go SS anymore and has trained worth nothing..
There is nothing supporting the two base theory either, it's something fans came up with
1. Ssj Gohan one-shots Ginyu who made literally destroyed Piccolo. If Gohan was so weak, why did he easily get rid of Ginyu? The latter is at least Super Perfect Cell tier.
2. So, you're telling me the two-base theory is made up. Okay, but you've got to explain how can Piccolo do that well against Frost. Or Cabba, whose base was equal to Vegeta's.
Gohan got a lot weaker, he couldn't access his full power aka ultimate, he had to do SS to get somewhat of a boost..
He was anywhere around SS2 teen Gohan and Fat buu.. not even close to his ultimate self

I don't have to explain anything, give me official proof of two base theory and I will accept it, even a mention in the anime qualifies

Kinisking also explains it nicely, He can't access his full powers
kinisking wrote:I think Gohans as strong as his boo saga self before ultimate. He just has problems maintaining his strength. That'd still put him way above piccolo though.
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Post by TheMikado » Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:48 am

Zamasu55 wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:
Zamasu55 wrote: I was serious indeed. :lol:
Wait.. what?
You honesty believe gohan was as strong as buu arc against tagoma when he clearly states he can barely go SS anymore and has trained worth nothing..
There is nothing supporting the two base theory either, it's something fans came up with
1. Ssj Gohan one-shots Ginyu who made literally destroyed Piccolo. If Gohan was so weak, why did he easily get rid of Ginyu? The latter is at least Super Perfect Cell tier.
2. So, you're telling me the two-base theory is made up. Okay, but you've got to explain how can Piccolo do that well against Frost. Or Cabba, whose base was equal to Vegeta's.
Don't think too hard it's a kids show.

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Post by TekTheNinja » Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:23 pm

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TekTheNinja wrote:Even if it wasn't intentional, it's STILL his fault.
Goku is not responsible for the Zeno actions. With what we know, he requested a competition that present Zeno already hinted he'd hold in the future. Either way, there's no context to anything previewed.
According to the blurb, everyone forgot about it entirely and then Goku reminded Zeno. It's his fault. It doesn't matter if Goku didn't intend for it to be like it is. It's still entirely Goku's fault and I don't see how you could deny that.

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Post by Fizzer » Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:32 pm

I think once we see some designs for the other fighters and gods we'll have a good idea of how much effort has gone into this story and what sort of quality we should expect. Once I've seen that lots of new characters doesn't equate to poorly designed characters, I'll start to feel excited.

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