Actually it was Freeza's fault since he sent Bardock bacl in time to eventually create the Saiyan race.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Actually it's all Bardock's fault if he didn't conceive Goku this all never would have happened, he should have pulled outdbs fanboy wrote:Nah, this is all Beerus's fault, if he had never dreamed about a ssgod, he would have never appeared on Earth or met Goku, so there would be no tournament.kinisking wrote: If we're going to blame him, why not Champa? He started this tournament business
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I really hope this fury shit happens at the last part of the episode and Gohan legitimately gets to spar/train with Goku first..sailorspazz wrote: Gokuu has no training partner, but the Great Saiyaman appears before him! However, the field is ruined by their sparring, and Chichi explodes with fury!!
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Was it explained why (golden) Freeza didn't show up Future trunks timeline?
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They don't have Dragonballs on earth in future anymore, and goku is dead, freeza can't be resurrected without Dragonballs and even if he was resurrected, he dosen't have anyone to take revenge againstPannaliciour wrote:Was it explained why (golden) Freeza didn't show up Future trunks timeline?
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That's sound awesome, hope Gohan don't stick with the Saiyaman-esque and eventually both turn in SSJ while sparring.sailorspazz wrote:Gokuu has no training partner, but the Great Saiyaman appears before him! However, the field is ruined by their sparring, and Chichi explodes with fury!!
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Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Goku needing to turn SS against gohan while he isn't even ultimateNoah wrote:That's sound awesome, hope Gohan don't stick with the Saiyaman-esque and eventually both turn in SSJ while sparring.sailorspazz wrote:Gokuu has no training partner, but the Great Saiyaman appears before him! However, the field is ruined by their sparring, and Chichi explodes with fury!!
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Yeah, you know... Power levels are bullsh**Ki Breaker wrote:Goku needing to turn SS against gohan while he isn't even ultimate
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Will Chichi's kaioken appear again?!! Please super, make it canon!sailorspazz wrote: Gokuu has no training partner, but the Great Saiyaman appears before him! However, the field is ruined by their sparring, and Chichi explodes with fury!!
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It's not that difficult. Goku has two bases, one without God-ki and one with it.Ki Breaker wrote:Goku needing to turn SS against gohan while he isn't even ultimate
Gohan doesn't need to be Mystic to be above Goku's normal base, since he was as strong as his Buu-saga self against Ginyu-Tagoma.
I don't understand why people think Gohan is weak when he clearly isn't.
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Namek should still be around and I'm pretty sure they searched for Trunks too. I guess they couldn't get anyone to help them use the Namekian Dragonballs but Namekian can go evil so I can't imagine finding one to deflect was that hard to find.Ki Breaker wrote:They don't have Dragonballs on earth in future anymore, and goku is dead, freeza can't be resurrected without Dragonballs and even if he was resurrected, he dosen't have anyone to take revenge againstPannaliciour wrote:Was it explained why (golden) Freeza didn't show up Future trunks timeline?
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In terms of having all the strongest fightee fighting in a tournament to save their universe. This is the best possible premise for a Dragon ball story.LightBing wrote:Big in what way? In terms of stakes I guess it's has the highest in terms of possible destruction. Compared with most other arcs is the same; either they live or they die.namekiansaiyan wrote:Can there even be a bigger arc for Dragon ball then the the universal survival arc? It also has the potential to be either the best arc or the worst arc of the franchise.
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Lol good oneZamasu55 wrote:It's not that difficult. Goku has two bases, one without God-ki and one with it.Ki Breaker wrote:Goku needing to turn SS against gohan while he isn't even ultimate
Gohan doesn't need to be Mystic to be above Goku's normal base, since he was as strong as his Buu-saga self against Ginyu-Tagoma.
I don't understand why people think Gohan is weak when he clearly isn't.
Almost thought you were being serious
They tried to search for new namek in rof movie but couldn't find it, that's the reason they had to come to earth..TheMikado wrote:Namek should still be around and I'm pretty sure they searched for Trunks too. I guess they couldn't get anyone to help them use the Namekian Dragonballs but Namekian can go evil so I can't imagine finding one to deflect was that hard to find.Ki Breaker wrote:They don't have Dragonballs on earth in future anymore, and goku is dead, freeza can't be resurrected without Dragonballs and even if he was resurrected, he dosen't have anyone to take revenge againstPannaliciour wrote:Was it explained why (golden) Freeza didn't show up Future trunks timeline?
Even the evil namekians died( if there were any ) during freeza saga to protect Dragonballs.. its not too much of a stretch to say there aren't many evil namekians lurking around namek today
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I was serious indeed.Ki Breaker wrote:Lol good oneZamasu55 wrote:It's not that difficult. Goku has two bases, one without God-ki and one with it.Ki Breaker wrote:Goku needing to turn SS against gohan while he isn't even ultimate
Gohan doesn't need to be Mystic to be above Goku's normal base, since he was as strong as his Buu-saga self against Ginyu-Tagoma.
I don't understand why people think Gohan is weak when he clearly isn't.![]()
Almost thought you were being serious
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Wait.. what?Zamasu55 wrote:I was serious indeed. :lol:Ki Breaker wrote:Lol good one :lol:Zamasu55 wrote: It's not that difficult. Goku has two bases, one without God-ki and one with it.
Gohan doesn't need to be Mystic to be above Goku's normal base, since he was as strong as his Buu-saga self against Ginyu-Tagoma.
I don't understand why people think Gohan is weak when he clearly isn't.
Almost thought you were being serious
You honesty believe gohan was as strong as buu arc against tagoma when he clearly states he can barely go SS anymore and has trained worth nothing..
There is nothing supporting the two base theory either, it's something fans came up with
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1. Ssj Gohan one-shots Ginyu who made literally destroyed Piccolo. If Gohan was so weak, why did he easily get rid of Ginyu? The latter is at least Super Perfect Cell tier.Ki Breaker wrote:Wait.. what?Zamasu55 wrote:I was serious indeed.Ki Breaker wrote: Lol good one![]()
Almost thought you were being serious
You honesty believe gohan was as strong as buu arc against tagoma when he clearly states he can barely go SS anymore and has trained worth nothing..
There is nothing supporting the two base theory either, it's something fans came up with
2. So, you're telling me the two-base theory is made up. Okay, but you've got to explain how can Piccolo do that well against Frost. Or Cabba, whose base was equal to Vegeta's.
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I think Gohans as strong as his boo saga self before ultimate. He just has problems maintaining his strength. That'd still put him way above piccolo though.
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Gohan got a lot weaker, he couldn't access his full power aka ultimate, he had to do SS to get somewhat of a boost..Zamasu55 wrote:1. Ssj Gohan one-shots Ginyu who made literally destroyed Piccolo. If Gohan was so weak, why did he easily get rid of Ginyu? The latter is at least Super Perfect Cell tier.Ki Breaker wrote:Wait.. what?Zamasu55 wrote: I was serious indeed.
You honesty believe gohan was as strong as buu arc against tagoma when he clearly states he can barely go SS anymore and has trained worth nothing..
There is nothing supporting the two base theory either, it's something fans came up with
2. So, you're telling me the two-base theory is made up. Okay, but you've got to explain how can Piccolo do that well against Frost. Or Cabba, whose base was equal to Vegeta's.
He was anywhere around SS2 teen Gohan and Fat buu.. not even close to his ultimate self
I don't have to explain anything, give me official proof of two base theory and I will accept it, even a mention in the anime qualifies
Kinisking also explains it nicely, He can't access his full powers
kinisking wrote:I think Gohans as strong as his boo saga self before ultimate. He just has problems maintaining his strength. That'd still put him way above piccolo though.
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Don't think too hard it's a kids show.Zamasu55 wrote:1. Ssj Gohan one-shots Ginyu who made literally destroyed Piccolo. If Gohan was so weak, why did he easily get rid of Ginyu? The latter is at least Super Perfect Cell tier.Ki Breaker wrote:Wait.. what?Zamasu55 wrote: I was serious indeed.
You honesty believe gohan was as strong as buu arc against tagoma when he clearly states he can barely go SS anymore and has trained worth nothing..
There is nothing supporting the two base theory either, it's something fans came up with
2. So, you're telling me the two-base theory is made up. Okay, but you've got to explain how can Piccolo do that well against Frost. Or Cabba, whose base was equal to Vegeta's.
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According to the blurb, everyone forgot about it entirely and then Goku reminded Zeno. It's his fault. It doesn't matter if Goku didn't intend for it to be like it is. It's still entirely Goku's fault and I don't see how you could deny that.Nejishiki wrote:Goku is not responsible for the Zeno actions. With what we know, he requested a competition that present Zeno already hinted he'd hold in the future. Either way, there's no context to anything previewed.TekTheNinja wrote:Even if it wasn't intentional, it's STILL his fault.
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I think once we see some designs for the other fighters and gods we'll have a good idea of how much effort has gone into this story and what sort of quality we should expect. Once I've seen that lots of new characters doesn't equate to poorly designed characters, I'll start to feel excited.





