"Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters" FUNimation English Dub Official Announcement and Discussion Thread

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Post by WittyUsername » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:23 pm

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WittyUsername wrote:I can almost guarantee they're not going to have Gohan using the r-word. He might call Boo a "moron" or a "dumbass", but the r-word would be pushing it, especially if it's coming out of the good guy's mouth. This isn't South Park.
But didn't Gohan say that in the Jap version or unless I'm wrong and dumbass is way worse than retard but he might call him an idiot or a moron
I'm not sure about the Japanese version of Kai, but back in the 1990s, the word "retard" wasn't nearly as controversial as it is today. And no, calling someone a "retard" is generally considered to be worse than calling someone a "dumbass".

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WittyUsername wrote:I can almost guarantee they're not going to have Gohan using the r-word. He might call Boo a "moron" or a "dumbass", but the r-word would be pushing it, especially if it's coming out of the good guy's mouth. This isn't South Park.
But didn't Gohan say that in the Jap version or unless I'm wrong and dumbass is way worse than retard but he might call him an idiot or a moron
I'm not sure about the Japanese version of Kai, but back in the 1990s, the word "retard" wasn't nearly as controversial as it is today. And no, calling someone a "retard" is generally considered to be worse than calling someone a "dumbass".
Yeah that I would not expect, there would probably be another substitute for the r word like "you fool" and "you bastard".

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Post by SaiyamanMS » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:06 pm

Personally, I'd like to vote for Gohan to call Buu a "dickhead", mostly because in Buu's case it could be taken both figuratively and literally. (Although we'll have to wait and see to know what they actually did.)

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Post by Scsigs » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:50 pm

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WittyUsername wrote:I can almost guarantee they're not going to have Gohan using the r-word. He might call Boo a "moron" or a "dumbass", but the r-word would be pushing it, especially if it's coming out of the good guy's mouth. This isn't South Park.
But didn't Gohan say that in the Jap version or unless I'm wrong and dumbass is way worse than retard but he might call him an idiot or a moron
Just looked it up. The word he says more so means just "dumbass," but "retard" has been a synonym for it since at least the 90s. However, since a lot of people in these more PC times have more of a problem with that word than is really warranted (not saying it's not bad, it's just not as bad as people can crack it up to be, but that's just me) most of the time, I'm assuming the most they'll have him say is "dumbass."
Whatever fansubs you watched obviously punched up the dialogue, a la TV-Nihon, to make the dialogue seem more edgy than it was.
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Post by ohaimynameiserik » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:11 pm

Honestly (and more realistically) he's likely to simply call him an idiot, or maybe moron. The intent is just to call him stupid, and I don't think Funimation will actually have a protagonist call someone a "retard" when that word is especially so volatile now in the west.

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Post by simtek34 » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:58 pm

Well, in Minnesota Junior High schools, Retard isn't a bad word, while dumbass is a lot worse. It probably depends on where you live.

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Post by ABED » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:01 pm

simtek34 wrote:Well, in Minnesota Junior High schools, Retard isn't a bad word, while dumbass is a lot worse. It probably depends on where you live.
Calling someone "retard" goes beyond being just a bad word. It's un-PC, hence why it's considered worse by many.
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Post by Scsigs » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:10 pm

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simtek34 wrote:Well, in Minnesota Junior High schools, Retard isn't a bad word, while dumbass is a lot worse. It probably depends on where you live.
Calling someone "retard" goes beyond being just a bad word. It's un-PC, hence why it's considered worse by many.
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Post by Scsigs » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:14 pm

simtek34 wrote:Well, in Minnesota Junior High schools, Retard isn't a bad word, while dumbass is a lot worse. It probably depends on where you live.
I guess that would be because when you say "dumbass," you're technically swearing, but "retard's" just a word with a very negative connotation with certain types of people. Kinda like the n word.
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Post by ohaimynameiserik » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:21 pm

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simtek34 wrote:Well, in Minnesota Junior High schools, Retard isn't a bad word, while dumbass is a lot worse. It probably depends on where you live.
I guess that would be because when you say "dumbass," you're technically swearing, but "retard's" just a word with a very negative connotation with certain types of people. Kinda like the n word.
Exactly, it's not so much that it's a swear, it's basically a slur at this point.

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Post by Footlong Shoe » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:49 pm

Scsigs wrote:Whatever fansubs you watched obviously punched up the dialogue, a la TV-Nihon, to make the dialogue seem more edgy than it was.
The "fansubs" that have Gohan calling Boo a retard are the official Funimation release.
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Post by SaiyanGod117 » Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:36 am

Yep, I remember in the official translations Gohan called Buu a retard don't know if he's gonna do it in the dub though.

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Post by WittyUsername » Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:41 am

Scsigs wrote:
ABED wrote:
simtek34 wrote:Well, in Minnesota Junior High schools, Retard isn't a bad word, while dumbass is a lot worse. It probably depends on where you live.
Calling someone "retard" goes beyond being just a bad word. It's un-PC, hence why it's considered worse by many.
PC nuts piss me off.
It's not unreasonable to be offended by a word that insults people with disabilities.

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Post by Scsigs » Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:44 am

WittyUsername wrote:
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ABED wrote:Calling someone "retard" goes beyond being just a bad word. It's un-PC, hence why it's considered worse by many.
PC nuts piss me off.
It's not unreasonable to be offended by a word that insults people with disabilities.
I know, but I'm just talking in general here.
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Post by sintzu » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:01 am

ohaimynameiserik wrote:I don't think Funimation will actually have a protagonist call someone a "retard" when that word is especially so volatile now in the west.
It seems like the west is offended by everything nowadays.

SJWs aren't going to buy any anime so I don't know why Funimation would care about what they think, if they find out about it they'll cry about it on social media for a few days before moving on to the next thing, maybe a comic or a video game.
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Post by Scsigs » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:04 am

Is it me, or does it seem like TFC's opening was animated in 4:3 then cropped like the rest of the show?
Also, I like the music during the recap. Reminds me of Buu's Fury's music.
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Post by jcogginsa » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:05 am

sintzu wrote:
ohaimynameiserik wrote:I don't think Funimation will actually have a protagonist call someone a "retard" when that word is especially so volatile now in the west.
It seems like the west is offended by everything nowadays.

SJWs aren't going to buy any anime so I don't know why Funimation would care about what they think, if they find out about it they'll cry about it on social media for a few days before moving on to the next thing, maybe a comic or a video game.
They'll care because using "Retard" as an insult would make Gohan an asshole, and they wouldn't want Gohan to look like an asswhole

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Post by DB_Fan1991 » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:06 am

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Post by Scsigs » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:07 am

People probably say the Great Saiyaman outfit's a parody of Super Sentai, but I actually think it's more a parody of Kamen Rider.
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Post by AzuraRacon » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:12 am

Scsigs wrote:People probably say the Great Saiyaman outfit's a parody of Super Sentai, but I actually think it's more a parody of Kamen Rider.
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