for the first time. i really do hope the english dub would be diffrent in the black goku arc

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for the first time. i really do hope the english dub would be diffrent in the black goku arc

Post by gohan_black » Fri Jan 20, 2017 6:13 pm

and i really mean it. in dbz i dident liked the dub changes at all

however. the repetetive anti-ningen lines from zamasu made me cringed so much. i do hope the dub would make him more sophisticated so he could actually explain in detail why he hates mortals so much

maybe if they would change the mortal word to just human all together and make him hate humans so much because they destroy themeselves. that would be great. it would make more sense why black invested all this time destroying earth.

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Post by Yomi » Fri Jan 20, 2017 6:19 pm

Well in the Sub he says it's because the earthlings deserve the harshest of punishments.
What makes a "Ningen" in dragon ball is pretty much mortals who look similar to the gods (humanoid) and have comparable intelligence.

It's not just humans on earth, speaking of which, the king of earth isn't even "human" as we describe it, but he is a Ningen.
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Post by emperior » Fri Jan 20, 2017 6:23 pm

Yomi wrote:Well in the Sub he says it's because the earthlings deserve the harshest of punishments.
What makes a "Ningen" in dragon ball is pretty much mortals who look similar to the gods (humanoid) and have comparable intelligence.

It's not just humans on earth, speaking of which, the king of earth isn't even "human" as we describe it, but he is a Ningen.
In Dragon Ball world animal people are earthlings and they aren't strange, while Goku, a kid with a tail, was very strange and it was hinted many times he is actually an alien.
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Post by Yedis » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:13 pm

Unfortunately, they won't change it. English Dubs of Animes in general usually stick to the script.

Its going to be weird hearing Zamasu say Mortal or Human instead of Ningen. Ningen had a nice ring to it.

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Post by ekrolo2 » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:24 pm

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Yomi wrote:Well in the Sub he says it's because the earthlings deserve the harshest of punishments.
What makes a "Ningen" in dragon ball is pretty much mortals who look similar to the gods (humanoid) and have comparable intelligence.

It's not just humans on earth, speaking of which, the king of earth isn't even "human" as we describe it, but he is a Ningen.
In Dragon Ball world animal people are earthlings and they aren't strange, while Goku, a kid with a tail, was very strange and it was hinted many times he is actually an alien.
There's a joke about it from Oolong but besides that an anime only thing with an Android there's nothing that implies he is one. Toriyama certainly wouldn't have come up with such an idea until the 23rd Budokai at the earliest.
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Re: for the first time. i really do hope the english dub would be diffrent in the black goku arc

Post by Doctor. » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:27 pm

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emperior wrote:
Yomi wrote:Well in the Sub he says it's because the earthlings deserve the harshest of punishments.
What makes a "Ningen" in dragon ball is pretty much mortals who look similar to the gods (humanoid) and have comparable intelligence.

It's not just humans on earth, speaking of which, the king of earth isn't even "human" as we describe it, but he is a Ningen.
In Dragon Ball world animal people are earthlings and they aren't strange, while Goku, a kid with a tail, was very strange and it was hinted many times he is actually an alien.
There's a joke about it from Oolong but besides that an anime only thing with an Android there's nothing that implies he is one. Toriyama certainly wouldn't have come up with such an idea until the 23rd Budokai at the earliest.
There's actually a line by Piccolo Daimao that implies it. "No human could have survived that attack", to which Goku replies "Well, I have a tail, so maybe I'm not human after all."

I think that's the absolute earliest he could have planned it, considering he introduces Kami and Popo a few chapters later and in the 23rd BT he already has them speaking in alien tongue. If I recall correctly, Toriyama even said he was planning the Freeza arc all the way back in the 23rd Budokai, so he must have thought of the Saiyan arc even earlier.

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Post by simtek34 » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:49 pm

Yomi wrote:Well in the Sub he says it's because the earthlings deserve the harshest of punishments.
What makes a "Ningen" in dragon ball is pretty much mortals who look similar to the gods (humanoid) and have comparable intelligence.

It's not just humans on earth, speaking of which, the king of earth isn't even "human" as we describe it, but he is a Ningen.
I'm just hoping they go with "Mortal". It sound good in the "Zero Mortals Plan" naming scheme of things. Or just make an excuse for Zamasu to call them Ningen somehow.

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