Is filler canon(ical)?

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It can be differentiated if you know the source material and you can differentiate standalone episodes from mytharc episodes

Obviously how can you differentiate this when the anime is the source material itself?

Are you asking me a hypothetical? DB's source material is the manga.

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It can be differentiated if you know the source material and you can differentiate standalone episodes from mytharc episodes

Obviously how can you differentiate this when the anime is the source material itself?

Are you asking me a hypothetical? DB's source material is the manga.

DB super source material is not manga super obviously has no source material. GT has no source material. Pokemon and yugioh has no source material this is obviously not hypothetical

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In that case, either there's no filler, or it's arguable what material could be considered filler if you think there are scenes or episodes that are just treading water as often happens when TV shows produce a lot of episodes. What you are talking about are just plot holes.

Filler is called FILLer because it is filling something up.

[Kamiccolo9]

yugioh has no source material this is obviously not hypothetical

Uhhhhh

Incidentally, can you at least attempt to make some effort in your typing? It's hard enough to understand your argument without having to decipher your posts.

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In that case, either there's no filler, or it's arguable what material could be considered filler if you think there are scenes or episodes that are just treading water as often happens when TV shows produce a lot of episodes. What you are talking about are just plot holes. It's called FILLer, as in it's filling something up.

Plot holes are different. Filler is not plot hole. Anime has padding and padding it's closest to be called filler. MAnga extra chapter for joke chapter or cross over it's called filler. Plot hole is something where the story contain something contradictory because of shit writing. Filler is not even considered part of the story.

Uhhhhh

Incidentally, can you at least attempt to make some effort in your typing? It's hard enough to understand your argument without having to decipher your posts.

What? Read the fkn context. GT and super, pokemon all original anime not adaptation

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In that case, either there's no filler, or it's arguable what material could be considered filler if you think there are scenes or episodes that are just treading water as often happens when TV shows produce a lot of episodes. What you are talking about are just plot holes. It's called FILLer, as in it's filling something up.

Plot holes are different. Filler is not plot hole. Anime has padding and padding it's closest to be called filler. MAnga extra chapter for joke chapter or cross over it's called filler. Plot hole is something where the story contain something contradictory because of shit writing. Filler is not even considered part of the story.

I never said filler and plot holes are the same thing. You can have filler that has no plot holes. I already made that point when I brought up the cutaways during the Freeza arc. Padding is just another name for filler. Filler can be part of the story, just part of the story that fills up time.

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In that case, either there's no filler, or it's arguable what material could be considered filler if you think there are scenes or episodes that are just treading water as often happens when TV shows produce a lot of episodes. What you are talking about are just plot holes. It's called FILLer, as in it's filling something up.

Plot holes are different. Filler is not plot hole. Anime has padding and padding it's closest to be called filler. MAnga extra chapter for joke chapter or cross over it's called filler. Plot hole is something where the story contain something contradictory because of shit writing. Filler is not even considered part of the story.

I never said filler and plot holes are the same thing. You can have filler that has no plot holes. I thought I made that point. Padding is just another name for filler. Filler can be part of the story, just part of the story that fills up time.

Filler cannot be part of the story because in anime and manga where filler happened it's ALWAYS mean it's not to be taken as part of the story

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Plot holes are different. Filler is not plot hole. Anime has padding and padding it's closest to be called filler. MAnga extra chapter for joke chapter or cross over it's called filler. Plot hole is something where the story contain something contradictory because of shit writing. Filler is not even considered part of the story.

I never said filler and plot holes are the same thing. You can have filler that has no plot holes. I thought I made that point. Padding is just another name for filler. Filler can be part of the story, just part of the story that fills up time.

Filler cannot be part of the story because in anime and manga where filler happened it's ALWAYS mean it's not to be taken as part of the story

It's meant to take up time. It's often not part of the main story, but occasionally there is. There are extra bits of action that aren't there in the manga, but are both part of the story but aren't canon. For instance, that part during the first fight against Vegeta where Goku head-butts Vegeta and then sends him gut first into the mountain is filler.

[Kamiccolo9]

Uhhhhh

Incidentally, can you at least attempt to make some effort in your typing? It's hard enough to understand your argument without having to decipher your posts.

What? Read the fkn context. GT and super, pokemon all original anime not adaptation

I'm trying, but while I am very good at English, I'm having difficulty making out whatever it is you are using.

And the "uhhh" was in response to you saying that their was no source material for Yugioh, which is why I specifically quoted that one part. There's a long-running manga that begs to differ.

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I never said filler and plot holes are the same thing. You can have filler that has no plot holes. I thought I made that point. Padding is just another name for filler. Filler can be part of the story, just part of the story that fills up time.

Filler cannot be part of the story because in anime and manga where filler happened it's ALWAYS mean it's not to be taken as part of the story

It's meant to take up time. It's often not part of the main story, but occasionally there is. There are extra bits of action that aren't there in the manga, but are both part of the story but aren't canon. For instance, that part during the first fight against Vegeta where Goku head-butts Vegeta and then sends him gut first into the mountain is filler.

So it's not in the original source? So it's certainly a filler, simple. IF the anime is not an adaptation or original anime it's plot point.

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I'm having trouble understanding.

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I'm having trouble understanding.

okay the problem is you're not used to the japanese terms of filler . Filler mentioned in anime all any otaku media like LN, manga, etc so it is not only for television like in wikipedia that's your flawed logic. Filler usually to tell a part betwen where is actually part of the story or just or just something not part of it eventhough it's tell the same story.

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I'm having trouble understanding.

okay the problem is you're not used to the japanese terms of filler . Filler mentioned in anime all any otaku media like LN, manga, etc so it is not only for television like in wikipedia that's your flawed logic.

It's not a Japanese term. It's a general term that's applied to many things, including anime.

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I'm having trouble understanding.

okay the problem is you're not used to the japanese terms of filler . Filler mentioned in anime all any otaku media like LN, manga, etc so it is not only for television like in wikipedia that's your flawed logic.

It's not a Japanese term. It's a general term that's applied to many things, including anime.

We're talking in context of course when you're mentioning filler you're mentioning filler in japanese terms because dragonball is japanese literature and media.

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It's just a term that in this case was applied in a different country. The concept didn't change. Japanese anime and US TV shows add filler for the same reasons. Filler is there to take up time. Contradictions have nothing to do with it. Where'd you get this idea?

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It's just a term that in this case was applied in a different country. The concept didn't change. Filler is there to take up time. Contradictions have nothing to do with it. Where'd you get this idea?

No it's different it's like saying what's harem in otaku genre/ terms and harem in general terms. It's totally different.

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It's just a term that in this case was applied in a different country. The concept didn't change. Filler is there to take up time. Contradictions have nothing to do with it. Where'd you get this idea?

No it's different it's like saying what's harem in otaku genre/ terms and harem in general terms. It's totally different.

Okay, so what about anime makes it different than any other TV show that there's the extra criterion?

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It's just a term that in this case was applied in a different country. The concept didn't change. Filler is there to take up time. Contradictions have nothing to do with it. Where'd you get this idea?

No it's different it's like saying what's harem in otaku genre/ terms and harem in general terms. It's totally different.

Okay, so what about anime makes it different than any other TV show that there's the extra criterion?

What do this relate to because i believe i have mentioned the flaw of the wikipedia. Japan has its own terms like harem terms and often the concept of canon itself because japanese often made so many spin off and adaption that often takes different route from the original source. Anime also often adapting visual novel that has tons of routes. Western media doesn't adapt something similar to visual novel.

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What do this relate to because i believe i have mentioned the flaw of the wikipedia. Japan has its own terms like harem terms and often the concept of canon itself because japanese often made so many spin off and adaption that often takes different route from the original source. Anime also often adapting visual novel that has tons of routes. Western media doesn't adapt something similar to visual novel.

They don't have their own term. The Japanese didn't change the definition. They also didn't change the concept of canon. Western TV and movies adapt visual novels all the time.

I also have no idea what "harem terms" means.

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What do this relate to because i believe i have mentioned the flaw of the wikipedia. Japan has its own terms like harem terms and often the concept of canon itself because japanese often made so many spin off and adaption that often takes different route from the original source. Anime also often adapting visual novel that has tons of routes. Western media doesn't adapt something similar to visual novel.

They don't have their own term. The Japanese didn't change the definition. They also didn't change the concept of canon. Western TV and movies adapt visual novels all the time.

I also have no idea what "harem terms" means.

Tell me which western media adapt something called visual novel.
Harem terms is obvious it's like you never read any manga or anything japanese related wtf.