The New Gods of the Universe Survival Arc Discussion Thread

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Re: The New Gods of the Universe Survival Arc Discussion Thread

Post by Grimlock » Sun Jan 29, 2017 10:29 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:I do worry with so many new Gods is that we won't know much about them and they will mostly be use as background characters.
I'm worried about this too. I want to know more about them, Daishinkan and Zeno. In general, about the gods' hierarchy.

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Post by SaiyanZ » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:58 am

The fox and yellow mouse are my favorites, interested to see the green robot. The old grey vulture looks like it has a cap on lol. I don't really like the fat Angels, but all their hairdos are great. The elderly Kaioshin look good.
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Post by MagmonKai » Sun Jan 29, 2017 2:22 pm

SaiyanZ wrote:The fox and yellow mouse are my favorites, interested to see the green robot. The old grey vulture looks like it has a cap on lol. I don't really like the fat Angels, but all their hairdos are great. The elderly Kaioshin look good.

What have you against fat angels? We can't all be skinny you know? hahaha

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Post by MisteryOne » Sun Jan 29, 2017 2:42 pm

I'm still surprised because of the brown Angel not being the Dwarf angel at all (and btw he is the only Hakaishin apart from Beerus that doesn't appear in the trailer). Will they be important to the story? The both of them being from different universes yet being revealed sooner than the rest makes me think so.
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Post by SaiyanZ » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:09 pm

MisteryOne wrote:I'm still surprised because of the brown Angel not being the Dwarf angel at all (and btw he is the only Hakaishin apart from Beerus that doesn't appear in the trailer). Will they be important to the story? The both of them being from different universes yet being revealed sooner than the rest makes me think so.
I don't mean to sound arrogant or condescending but I was pretty sure they weren't a pair when I saw that they didn't share the same symbols like Beerus-Whis and Champa-Vados. I'm pretty sure V-Jump just included them as random teases for the arc, I don't think there was any hidden meaning behind it.
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Post by JoeCapricorn » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:39 pm

I know what the missing two Gods of Destruction look like.

Sorta. In the 30 second teaser at 9 seconds in, the distant platform behind the pillar all the way to the right shows a greyish somewhat blue or green figure. My initial reaction is that it is a lizard or snake based God of Destruction. A second before, to the left of the tiny mouse God of Destruction, there appears to be a small God of Destruction that resembles a golden falcon.

The golden falcon (if he or she is a falcon) God of Destruction has a short fat pink Kai with a cropped hairdo (it looks small on his head). The Angel is tall, husky, with a green and brown outfit. He has a sort of slick backed look to his hair and his tabard seems to have two symbols on it. The resolution is otherwise too low for me to make out what shapes they are. Tiny probability of the God of Destruction being female.

The snake fella (if he is a snake) has a weird looking green Kai that is short with a large head. Reminds me of those aliens from Toy Story. The Angel is similar, short with a large head.

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Post by TekTheNinja » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:27 am

Grimlock wrote: [spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
It looks kinda like some sort of stand. Act 3 Echoes maybe?Image

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Post by MisteryOne » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:48 am

SaiyanZ wrote:
MisteryOne wrote:I'm still surprised because of the brown Angel not being the Dwarf angel at all (and btw he is the only Hakaishin apart from Beerus that doesn't appear in the trailer). Will they be important to the story? The both of them being from different universes yet being revealed sooner than the rest makes me think so.
I don't mean to sound arrogant or condescending but I was pretty sure they weren't a pair when I saw that they didn't share the same symbols like Beerus-Whis and Champa-Vados. I'm pretty sure V-Jump just included them as random teases for the arc, I don't think there was any hidden meaning behind it.
I was already aware of the simbols, but that was exactly the reason I trough they would be a pair. If they were random designs, why didn't they just show the pair?

It would be as well the first time we would see minor characters designs before the main ones since ROF.Even Zamasu was showed at the same time that Goku Black implying some type of relevance. 17 is definetly not a random character on this arc (just like 18, since they are getting new outfits) so I don't see why the would include two completely unrelated and random designs.
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Post by RehBeh » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:43 am

Really hope that the gods who will be introduced won't be just background characters. Also it would be nice if they reveal how the Hakaishin are picked. Maybe the Angels search the Universe for individuals with high potential ?
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ekrolo2 wrote: He is, its just that no one holds him in high esteem, even in-universe.
He must feel awful. Being a God and no one respects him. Just sad.
And Zamasu thought he had it bad. Fuckin' edgy Kaios thinking about "Justice" and shit just because they got strong by chance.

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Post by Grimlock » Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:02 pm

RehBeh wrote:Also it would be nice if they reveal how the Hakaishin are picked. Maybe the Angels search the Universe for individuals with high potential ?
Xenoverse 2 already gives an option on how Hakaishins are picked. There is a race and the winner is the one to be chosen. I think this is the method when there are more candidates than the "normal" to become Hakaishin.

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Post by RehBeh » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:57 pm

Grimlock wrote:
RehBeh wrote:Also it would be nice if they reveal how the Hakaishin are picked. Maybe the Angels search the Universe for individuals with high potential ?
Xenoverse 2 already gives an option on how Hakaishins are picked. There is a race and the winner is the one to be chosen. I think this is the method when there are more candidates than the "normal" to become Hakaishin.

Huh. Interesting, but isn't Xenoverse is it's own thing right outside of Super's continuity ? So i'm not sure the same lore will be used there, but there is a chance.
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ekrolo2 wrote: He is, its just that no one holds him in high esteem, even in-universe.
He must feel awful. Being a God and no one respects him. Just sad.
And Zamasu thought he had it bad. Fuckin' edgy Kaios thinking about "Justice" and shit just because they got strong by chance.

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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:00 pm

RehBeh wrote:Isn't Xenoverse is it's own thing right outside of Super's continuity?
I can't think of one reason why they should be in separate continuities.
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Post by RehBeh » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:22 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
RehBeh wrote:Isn't Xenoverse is it's own thing right outside of Super's continuity?
I can't think of one reason why they should be in separate continuities.
I mean why it should be ? Also as far as we know Time Patron and Chronoa dosn't exist on Super.
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ekrolo2 wrote: He is, its just that no one holds him in high esteem, even in-universe.
He must feel awful. Being a God and no one respects him. Just sad.
And Zamasu thought he had it bad. Fuckin' edgy Kaios thinking about "Justice" and shit just because they got strong by chance.

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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:26 pm

RehBeh wrote:...as far as we know Time Patrol and Chronoa don't exist on Super.
We've had no indication that they don't exist. Just because they aren't explicitly mentioned doesn't mean that we should assume their absence.
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Post by RehBeh » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:32 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
RehBeh wrote:...as far as we know Time Patrol and Chronoa don't exist on Super.
We've had no indication that they don't exist. Just because they aren't explicitly mentioned doesn't mean that we should assume their absence.
But wouldn't the God of Time attend at Zeno's tournament? I mean she has a really important role and keeping her out seems odd to me. Maybe i'm wrong though.
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He must feel awful. Being a God and no one respects him. Just sad.
And Zamasu thought he had it bad. Fuckin' edgy Kaios thinking about "Justice" and shit just because they got strong by chance.

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Re: The New Gods of the Universe Survival Arc Discussion Thread

Post by Khin » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:32 pm

Better look at some of the Gods of Destruction:

[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

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Post by ekrolo2 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:33 pm

How likely is that red thing in the OP Goku does a new form?
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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:36 pm

Khin wrote:Better look at some of the Gods of Destruction:

[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
God, I love all those design so much. But... Krusty The Clown Hakaishin is still the greatest thing of all time. :P

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Post by Lord Frieza » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:39 pm

Khin wrote:Better look at some of the Gods of Destruction:

[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
What a rather gloomy and intimidating bunch, I find it very easy to believe that Beerus and Champa are the nicer gods out of these guys.

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Post by ekrolo2 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:43 pm

Why do I feel like we've seen that mouse design before.....
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