Why didn't Babidi enslave Freeza?

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Re: Why didn't Babidi enslave Freeza?

Post by Gog » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:22 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
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DBZAOTA482 wrote: Freeza begged for Goku to spare his life. There's nothing prideful about that.
Vegeta begged, and cried from Freeza. Even the most prideful have their most shameful moments.
Vegeta wasn't begging for forgiveness or mercy like Freeza.... in fact, he cried because of his shattered pride. Freeza was just being a pussy who can't face reality.
He was crying because his pride was shattered, same thing. Just more humiliating, Freeza begged Goku because 75% percent of his body was gone, and he was going to die. He also tried to use that energy to kill Goku.

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Re: Why didn't Babidi enslave Freeza?

Post by Smilodon » Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:17 pm

Babidi would make Freeza his bitch...Dabura was waaay stronger than him and he was a slave...But Majin Vegeta wasn't at all, so I think Golden Freeza could control himself against Babidi.
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Re: Why didn't Babidi enslave Freeza?

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Smilodon wrote:Babidi would make Freeza his bitch...Dabura was waaay stronger than him and he was a slave...But Majin Vegeta wasn't at all, so I think Golden Freeza could control himself against Babidi.
regular Freeza could effortlessly control himself against Babbidi

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Re: Why didn't Babidi enslave Freeza?

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:23 pm

Gog wrote:
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Vegeta begged, and cried from Freeza. Even the most prideful have their most shameful moments.
Vegeta wasn't begging for forgiveness or mercy like Freeza.... in fact, he cried because of his shattered pride. Freeza was just being a pussy who can't face reality.
He was crying because his pride was shattered, same thing. Just more humiliating, Freeza begged Goku because 75% percent of his body was gone, and he was going to die. He also tried to use that energy to kill Goku.
Exactly... Freeza's a bitch-ass nigga. He can dish out punishment but can't take it himself.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: Why didn't Babidi enslave Freeza?

Post by Gog » Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:27 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
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DBZAOTA482 wrote: Vegeta wasn't begging for forgiveness or mercy like Freeza.... in fact, he cried because of his shattered pride. Freeza was just being a pussy who can't face reality.
He was crying because his pride was shattered, same thing. Just more humiliating, Freeza begged Goku because 75% percent of his body was gone, and he was going to die. He also tried to use that energy to kill Goku.
Exactly... Freeza's a bitch-ass nigga. He can dish out punishment but can't take it himself.
Your right all bitch ass nigga's get 75% percent of their body destroyed, get shot by a Kamehameha from a super saiyan, and got hit by an exploding planet. But Freeza can't 'take' the punishment

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Re: Why didn't Babidi enslave Freeza?

Post by Smilodon » Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:34 pm

Gog wrote:
Smilodon wrote:Babidi would make Freeza his bitch...Dabura was waaay stronger than him and he was a slave...But Majin Vegeta wasn't at all, so I think Golden Freeza could control himself against Babidi.
regular Freeza could effortlessly control himself against Babbidi
I don't think so.
Dabura was as evil as Freeza (or maybe more). And he was much stronger than regular Freeza. Even Vegeta who wasn't evil at all couldn't really resist Babidi (he showed some resistance, but don't forget he almost killed his wife with thousand of inoccent people in Budokai). He was trying to become stronger than Goku, but he was dominated. I can't see why Freeza could resist...
But in his golden form I think (not sure) he could resist because his power was in another level.
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Re: Why didn't Babidi enslave Freeza?

Post by Gog » Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:41 pm

Smilodon wrote:
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Smilodon wrote:Babidi would make Freeza his bitch...Dabura was waaay stronger than him and he was a slave...But Majin Vegeta wasn't at all, so I think Golden Freeza could control himself against Babidi.
regular Freeza could effortlessly control himself against Babbidi
I don't think so.
Dabura was as evil as Freeza (or maybe more). And he was much stronger than regular Freeza. Even Vegeta who wasn't evil at all couldn't really resist Babidi (he showed some resistance, but don't forget he almost killed his wife with thousand of inoccent people in Budokai). He was trying to become stronger than Goku, but he was dominated. I can't see why Freeza could resist...
But in his golden form I think (not sure) he could resist because his power was in another level.
Babidi's magic ignores strength. The only reason why Vegeta was capable of fighting back against Babidi's magic was because of pride. Freeza has pride in spades, he has the tool to fight of Babbidi

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Re: Why didn't Babidi enslave Freeza?

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:44 pm

Gog wrote:
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He was crying because his pride was shattered, same thing. Just more humiliating, Freeza begged Goku because 75% percent of his body was gone, and he was going to die. He also tried to use that energy to kill Goku.
Exactly... Freeza's a bitch-ass nigga. He can dish out punishment but can't take it himself.
Your right all bitch ass nigga's get 75% percent of their body destroyed, get shot by a Kamehameha from a super saiyan, and got hit by an exploding planet. But Freeza can't 'take' the punishment
That stuff is nothing to an alien who can destroy planets with just his finger tip. Vegeta would never beg his enemies to spare him.... especially with all the shit he did them.
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: Why didn't Babidi enslave Freeza?

Post by Gog » Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:51 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
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DBZAOTA482 wrote: Exactly... Freeza's a bitch-ass nigga. He can dish out punishment but can't take it himself.
Your right all bitch ass nigga's get 75% percent of their body destroyed, get shot by a Kamehameha from a super saiyan, and got hit by an exploding planet. But Freeza can't 'take' the punishment
That stuff is nothing to an alien who can destroy planets with just his finger tip. Vegeta would never beg his enemies to spare him.... especially with all the shit he did them.
Your right, Vegeta would totally, wait lol. I don't see how everybody's like Freeza can dish out the punishment but he can't take the punishment. Freeza got the shit kicked out of him by a SSJ, he powered up to full, he got beaten, he lost 75% of his body and he was hit by a Kamehameha, and he was hit by an exploding planet. This is something, not nothing. Vegeta would have been killed. Freeza's smarter than Vegeta, and even when he begged, he was simply using it as a ploy to kill Goku.

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Re: Why didn't Babidi enslave Freeza?

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:01 pm

Gog wrote:Your right, Vegeta would totally, wait lol. I don't see how everybody's like Freeza can dish out the punishment but he can't take the punishment. Freeza got the shit kicked out of him by a SSJ, he powered up to full, he got beaten, he lost 75% of his body and he was hit by a Kamehameha, and he was hit by an exploding planet. This is something, not nothing. Vegeta would have been killed. Freeza's smarter than Vegeta, and even when he begged, he was simply using it as a ploy to kill Goku.
That doesn't change the fact Freeza did all he can right from the beginning to avoid fate even before there was any danger and lol at him smarter than Vegeta. He fell victim to his own attack and blindly shot at Goku when he only had a small bit of energy left. If that's a ploy then it's a really dumb one.

Vegeta would totally wait. :) He knows he's a piece of shit who deserves to die so the least he can do is die with dignity.
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: Why didn't Babidi enslave Freeza?

Post by Gog » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:32 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
Gog wrote:Your right, Vegeta would totally, wait lol. I don't see how everybody's like Freeza can dish out the punishment but he can't take the punishment. Freeza got the shit kicked out of him by a SSJ, he powered up to full, he got beaten, he lost 75% of his body and he was hit by a Kamehameha, and he was hit by an exploding planet. This is something, not nothing. Vegeta would have been killed. Freeza's smarter than Vegeta, and even when he begged, he was simply using it as a ploy to kill Goku.
That doesn't change the fact Freeza did all he can right from the beginning to avoid fate even before there was any danger and lol at him smarter than Vegeta. He fell victim to his own attack and blindly shot at Goku when he only had a small bit of energy left. If that's a ploy then it's a really dumb one.

Vegeta would totally wait. :) He knows he's a piece of shit who deserves to die so the least he can do is die with dignity.
You mean Vegeta the Cell enabler? Honestly I'd put them both in the same ballpark, except Freeza is more cunning, but he's really, really, really prideful and arrogant. He shot Goku because Goku broke his pride. vegeta would wait, but Freeza would shoot, he's more prideful and arrogant.

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Re: Why didn't Babidi enslave Freeza?

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:44 pm

Babidi was last in this part of the universe 300 years ago, before Freeza was around. By the time he returned from the far reaches of the universe, Freeza was already dead.
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