Could there possibly be someone stronger than Boo in U7?

[kinisking]

Hell yeah. The universe is fucking huge. There is bound to be someone stronger than Majin Boo in it.

I don't buy it. Freeza was able to control pretty much the entire universe and he's much weaker than Boo. You got to remember that Boo is insanely strong for a non-god, at least by u7 standards. Hes even stronger than the Supreme Kai which should be stronger than any mortal. Just because the universe is huge doesn't mean there is infinite possibilities. They might be able to bullshit a character stronger in Universe 7 and I'd accept it but acting like it's a certainty that it exists isnt something I agree with.

Freeza controlled a small portion of one galaxy, if even that. The best we know about Freeza is that he controlled at least 400 planets. That's really small potatoes when you consider the fact that one galaxy has billions of planets. He was a big fish in small pond. If there on thing that new material, especially Battle Of Gods, has taught us, it's that there is always someone stronger out there. Beerus and Whis for all we know are just the tip of the iceberg.

It was 400 planets? Does that count the ones he sold ?

So do you think that they'res someone stronger than Whis in U7? I know that they'll always find a way to write someone stronger, but I think there's a limit to this.

[precita]

If you count the movies I don't think any of them were strong than Buu either. Jenemba and Movie 13's villain always seemed at least below Super Buu's strength.

[Saturnine]

Due to Freeza's prominence, I'm inclined to say no. Around the universe, guys with powers like 10,000 are considered powerful.

And considering that Buu was enough to literally murk the gods overseeing the universe, guys like Rilldo make totally zero sense, if you consider their ratio of power to prominence. In fact, GT always had problems making its strong villains important enough. So yeah, I don't think there's anyone stronger than Buu out there.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Hell yeah. The universe is fucking huge. There is bound to be someone stronger than Majin Boo in it.

I don't buy it. Freeza was able to control pretty much the entire universe and he's much weaker than Boo. You got to remember that Boo is insanely strong for a non-god, at least by u7 standards. Hes even stronger than the Supreme Kai which should be stronger than any mortal. Just because the universe is huge doesn't mean there is infinite possibilities. They might be able to bullshit a character stronger in Universe 7 and I'd accept it but acting like it's a certainty that it exists isnt something I agree with.

Freeza controlled a small portion of one galaxy, if even that. The best we know about Freeza is that he controlled at least 400 planets. That's really small potatoes when you consider the fact that one galaxy has billions of planets. He was a big fish in small pond. If there on thing that new material, especially Battle Of Gods, has taught us, it's that there is always someone stronger out there. Beerus and Whis for all we know are just the tip of the iceberg.

Wasn't ther a vague line in RoF that alluded to them controlling a significant portion of the universe? Either way, someone stronger is very possible because, like you said, the universe is massive. There's no way they could monitor enough of the universe to know for sure even if they did control it all. I go back to my example of Kaioshin, who we now know can observe any place in the universe at will, totally ignorant of Dabra's existence for hundreds and hundreds of years. If gods with immense capacity for observation can miss things right under their nose, a galactic empire would most likely also have that problem.

[kinisking]

I don't buy it. Freeza was able to control pretty much the entire universe and he's much weaker than Boo. You got to remember that Boo is insanely strong for a non-god, at least by u7 standards. Hes even stronger than the Supreme Kai which should be stronger than any mortal. Just because the universe is huge doesn't mean there is infinite possibilities. They might be able to bullshit a character stronger in Universe 7 and I'd accept it but acting like it's a certainty that it exists isnt something I agree with.

Freeza controlled a small portion of one galaxy, if even that. The best we know about Freeza is that he controlled at least 400 planets. That's really small potatoes when you consider the fact that one galaxy has billions of planets. He was a big fish in small pond. If there on thing that new material, especially Battle Of Gods, has taught us, it's that there is always someone stronger out there. Beerus and Whis for all we know are just the tip of the iceberg.

Wasn't ther a vague line in RoF that alluded to them controlling a significant portion of the universe? Either way, someone stronger is very possible because, like you said, the universe is massive. There's no way they could monitor enough of the universe to know for sure even if they did control it all. I go back to my example of Kaioshin, who we now know can observe any place in the universe at will, totally ignorant of Dabra's existence for hundreds and hundreds of years. If gods with immense capacity for observation can miss things right under their nose, a galactic empire would most likely also have that problem.

What? I'm 99 percent certain Kaioshin knew about Dabra.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Freeza controlled a small portion of one galaxy, if even that. The best we know about Freeza is that he controlled at least 400 planets. That's really small potatoes when you consider the fact that one galaxy has billions of planets. He was a big fish in small pond. If there on thing that new material, especially Battle Of Gods, has taught us, it's that there is always someone stronger out there. Beerus and Whis for all we know are just the tip of the iceberg.

Wasn't ther a vague line in RoF that alluded to them controlling a significant portion of the universe? Either way, someone stronger is very possible because, like you said, the universe is massive. There's no way they could monitor enough of the universe to know for sure even if they did control it all. I go back to my example of Kaioshin, who we now know can observe any place in the universe at will, totally ignorant of Dabra's existence for hundreds and hundreds of years. If gods with immense capacity for observation can miss things right under their nose, a galactic empire would most likely also have that problem.

What? I'm 99 percent certain Kaioshin knew about Dabra.

I mistyped, he didn't know that Dabra was working with Babidi for hundreds and hundreds of years.

[RehBeh]

Or Baby, who's basically Cell, only far more powerful and with the ability to control minds.

Why Baby is like Cell?

Made from others' cells, absorbs people for energy and power. Constant allusions to achieving his "perfect form" (sound familiar yet?)

The way sou make it sound yes, it sounds similar. But if you compare them side by side they have many differences(and similaritis):
Both are made by a Scientist for use as a revenge tool against Son Goku/the Saiyans. Both are made using cell's from other lifeforms.
But the main difference is their nature. Cell requires the two artificial humans to achive his "Perfect" state. Baby doesn't have a "perfect form". He is more of a parasite. He finds a suitbale host and then overtakes it's body. In Vegeta's case he even made his own versions of SSJ. You can argue that Cell's procces of evolution is parasitic too, but he needs the cyborgs to evolve, he can't evolve otherwise. Cell is more restricted in that manner.(although he could still eat people to increase his power furthermore)

In conclusion, i think that Baby is not basically Cell, but he's Cell(creation of scientist's) and Boo(taking over other's to boost his power) combined.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Why Baby is like Cell?

Made from others' cells, absorbs people for energy and power. Constant allusions to achieving his "perfect form" (sound familiar yet?)

The way sou make it sound yes, it sounds similar. But if you compare them side by side they have many differences(and similaritis):
Both are made by a Scientist for use as a revenge tool against Son Goku/the Saiyans. Both are made using cell's from other lifeforms.
But the main difference is their nature. Cell requires the two artificial humans to achive his "Perfect" state. Baby doesn't have a "perfect form". He is more of a parasite. He finds a suitbale host and then overtakes it's body. In Vegeta's case he even made his own versions of SSJ. You can argue that Cell's procces of evolution is parasitic too, but he needs the cyborgs to evolve, he can't evolve otherwise. Cell is more restricted in that manner.(although he could still eat people to increase his power furthermore)

In conclusion, i think that Baby is not basically Cell, but he's Cell(creation of scientist's) and Boo(taking over other's to boost his power) combined.

Superficial differences, but it doesn't matter. It has nothing to do with the point I was making.

[RehBeh]

Made from others' cells, absorbs people for energy and power. Constant allusions to achieving his "perfect form" (sound familiar yet?)

The way sou make it sound yes, it sounds similar. But if you compare them side by side they have many differences(and similaritis):
Both are made by a Scientist for use as a revenge tool against Son Goku/the Saiyans. Both are made using cell's from other lifeforms.
But the main difference is their nature. Cell requires the two artificial humans to achive his "Perfect" state. Baby doesn't have a "perfect form". He is more of a parasite. He finds a suitbale host and then overtakes it's body. In Vegeta's case he even made his own versions of SSJ. You can argue that Cell's procces of evolution is parasitic too, but he needs the cyborgs to evolve, he can't evolve otherwise. Cell is more restricted in that manner.(although he could still eat people to increase his power furthermore)

In conclusion, i think that Baby is not basically Cell, but he's Cell(creation of scientist's) and Boo(taking over other's to boost his power) combined.

Superficial differences, but it doesn't matter. It has nothing to do with the point I was making.

Yeah, i was just responding to this specific part.

[OtōsanDaishinkan]

Hell yeah. The universe is fucking huge. There is bound to be someone stronger than Majin Boo in it.

I don't buy it. Freeza was able to control pretty much the entire universe and he's much weaker than Boo. You got to remember that Boo is insanely strong for a non-god, at least by u7 standards. Hes even stronger than the Supreme Kai which should be stronger than any mortal. Just because the universe is huge doesn't mean there is infinite possibilities. They might be able to bullshit a character stronger in Universe 7 and I'd accept it but acting like it's a certainty that it exists isnt something I agree with.

Freeza controlled a small portion of one galaxy, if even that. The best we know about Freeza is that he controlled at least 400 planets. That's really small potatoes when you consider the fact that one galaxy has billions of planets. He was a big fish in small pond. If there on thing that new material, especially Battle Of Gods, has taught us, it's that there is always someone stronger out there. Beerus and Whis for all we know are just the tip of the iceberg.

There's always been a lot of contradiction on the size of Freeza's Empire in proportion to the claims about his might and scale of his threat. My own headcanon solution has evolved to that while Freeza may have only been operating within in a single galaxy of a single "Galaxy"/area in a vast universe, with only possibly a couple of hundred planets under his Empire, his power was indeed far supreme over anyone in canon Universe 7 at the time except possibly his own Father (separate debate but I take the stance Freeza > King Cold), the dormant Majin Boo, and of course people of Other World (like Dabra or Yakon), or the Gods (Kaiōshin, Beerus, Whis). Battle of Gods, Resurrection F, and Super make this pretty crystal clear and really not up for debate. They can of course retcon this late, but I think the point of a character like Monaka was to illustrate that to Toriyama, Goku and Vegeta are the only mortals in the Universe at their level (we of course ignore Future Trunks in his own timeline).