The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Fri Feb 10, 2017 8:50 am

apex_pretador wrote:
SaiyanGod117 wrote:SSB Vegito Kaioken x3 Indefinte time vs Beerus
Beerus
He is the strongest unless stated otherwise.
It was already stated that Whis and co are stronger than him.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dragonball0900 » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:34 pm

SaiyanGod117 wrote:SSB Vegito Kaioken x3 Indefinte time vs Beerus
Vegito wins. I have SSB Vegito stronger than Beerus. With Kaioken X3, it's a stomp.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Saiyan007 » Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:24 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:SSBlue Kaioken x10 Oozaru Kid Goku vs Perfect Cell

Assuming Kid Goku gets the same boost Goku got in the Bog arc he wouldn't even need Oozaru to kill Cell with a sneeze

New battle

SSJG Goku vs Doomsday

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SaiyanGod117 » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:27 pm

Saiyan007 wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:SSBlue Kaioken x10 Oozaru Kid Goku vs Perfect Cell

Assuming Kid Goku gets the same boost Goku got in the Bog arc he wouldn't even need Oozaru to kill Cell with a sneeze

New battle

SSJG Goku vs Doomsday
Goku can beat any version of Doomsday.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by mcdjbeatz » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:32 pm

buutenks wrote:Namek Saga Goku(right after he got out of his ship) vs Ginyu Force(all at once). + Dodoria and Zarbon.

Goku is restricted to KKx1(when his PL was 180,000).

Bonus fight: Namek Saga Goku(right after he got out of his ship) vs Piccolo(after he merged with Nail).

Goku can use max kkx10.
1. This fight could go either way, Goku could trounce any of them with a kaioken however he would need to take out Guldo or Ginyu immediately to insure a win. The reason why I say Guldo is because we don't know the extent of his psychic powers and while I'm doubtful that Guldo could hold Goku in place I'm not going to rule it out. Goku doesn't normally go all out at the start of fights which means Goku is susceptible to being frozen in place by Guldo and having his body stolen by Ginyu or being distracted by a member of the ginyu force, zarbon or dodoria and having his body stolen by Ginyu.

2. Piccolo destroys Goku, by my numbers Goku would need to pull off a kaioken x18 to be barely stronger than Piccolo with his weights off or a kaioken x14 to be barely stronger than Piccolo with his weights on which I'm doubtful Goku could even pull off long enough to defeat Piccolo with.
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Super Saiyan Gohan [As of episode 77] vs Super Saiyan Cabba.
Pui Pui vs Captain Ginyu [DBZ; No body change].
Mecha arc humans [Kuririn, Tenshinhan, Yamcha and Chiaotzu] vs The Ginyu force [No body change for Ginyu].
Tambourine vs Roshi [22nd TB].
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1. Future Zamasu fought quite evenly with SSJB Goku in the anime in episode 57 but was getting dominated by an enraged SSJB Goku in episode 61 only surviving thanks to his immortality. Hit was fighting evenly with SSJB Goku in episode 39 but was overpowered by SSJB Kaioken x10 Goku. I don't think that enraged SSJB Goku was as strong as SSJB Kaioken x10 Goku and in addition Hit wasn't getting as dominated as Zamasu was which leads me to believe that Hit could beat Future Zamasu.
2. SSJ Gohan was fighting evenly with SSJ Goku who was stronger than SSJ Vegeta at the U6 vs U7 Tournament would was on par with SSJ Cabba. SSJ Gohan wins
3. Kaioshin stated that “You mustn’t underestimate your opponent! Babidi gathers only strong warriors from everywhere and makes them his allies!” which indicates that Pui Pui is quite strong compared to most of the universe in addition it seems that the majin boost yields quite a boost in power due to it closing the gap between Vegeta and Goku. This leads me to believe that Pui Pui could beat Ginyu
4. I have Krillin, Tenshinhan and Yamcha as all being stronger than Kaioken Namek Arc Goku when he landed and Chaozu as being stronger than all of the ginyu force except for Ginyu, the humans take this easily.
5. Roshi was quite close to Tenshinhan and Goku as Tenshinhan acknowledged that Roshi hadn't used his full power against him, “No…He still hadn’t put out his full power…” Goku trounced Tambourine once he had eaten which leads me to believe that Roshi could beat Tambourine.
6. Nam showing up in the 22nd tenkaichi budokai was only in the anime in addition I don't think Nam trained much as he only entered the 21st tenkaichi budokai to earn money to buy water for his family which was resolved by Roshi which removes his motive for training, even if he was still training I don't think he closed that gap between him and 21st TB Goku. I think Goku takes this.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dragonball0900 » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:54 pm

buutenks wrote:Namek Saga Goku(right after he got out of his ship) vs Ginyu Force(all at once). + Dodoria and Zarbon.

Goku is restricted to KKx1(when his PL was 180,000).

Bonus fight: Namek Saga Goku(right after he got out of his ship) vs Piccolo(after he merged with Nail).

Goku can use max kkx10.
Considering how easy Goku defeated the Ginyu Force with just a battle power of 60,000 against all three of 40,000. I'd say the same would happen with Dodoria and Zarbon. With Ginyu, he would need the kaioken (the 180,000 number is actually KKx2, so your bonus fight would actually be restricted to KKx1).

In the Bonus fight, I have Piccolo winning. If Goku had trouble with KKx20 with a BP of 3,000,000, then a BP of 90,000 would have trouble resisting just to KKx10 as stated in the manga. A barely resistant 900,000 against a 1,300,000 (the power I give to Full Power Unweighted Piccolo) it's an easy win for Piccolo.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:43 am

Sly Cooper with his pals Bentley and Murray have stumbled upon Dragon World but they must fight their way if they want to return to their world:

1. Emperor Pilaf, Mai, and Shu
2. Boss Rabbit and his gang
3. Bear Thief
4. BoDB Krillin
5. BoDB Chi-Chi
6. BoDB Goku w/o tail
7. BoDB Yamcha
8. BoDB Goku w/tail

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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sat Feb 11, 2017 3:10 am

dragonball0900 wrote:
buutenks wrote:Namek Saga Goku(right after he got out of his ship) vs Ginyu Force(all at once). + Dodoria and Zarbon.

Goku is restricted to KKx1(when his PL was 180,000).

Bonus fight: Namek Saga Goku(right after he got out of his ship) vs Piccolo(after he merged with Nail).

Goku can use max kkx10.
Considering how easy Goku defeated the Ginyu Force with just a battle power of 60,000 against all three of 40,000. I'd say the same would happen with Dodoria and Zarbon. With Ginyu, he would need the kaioken (the 180,000 number is actually KKx2, so your bonus fight would actually be restricted to KKx1).

In the Bonus fight, I have Piccolo winning. If Goku had trouble with KKx20 with a BP of 3,000,000, then a BP of 90,000 would have trouble resisting just to KKx10 as stated in the manga. A barely resistant 900,000 against a 1,300,000 (the power I give to Full Power Unweighted Piccolo) it's an easy win for Piccolo.
There's no difference between Kaioken x1 and Kaioken x2, they're the same thing.

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Post by dragonball0900 » Sat Feb 11, 2017 12:01 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
dragonball0900 wrote:
buutenks wrote:Namek Saga Goku(right after he got out of his ship) vs Ginyu Force(all at once). + Dodoria and Zarbon.

Goku is restricted to KKx1(when his PL was 180,000).

Bonus fight: Namek Saga Goku(right after he got out of his ship) vs Piccolo(after he merged with Nail).

Goku can use max kkx10.
Considering how easy Goku defeated the Ginyu Force with just a battle power of 60,000 against all three of 40,000. I'd say the same would happen with Dodoria and Zarbon. With Ginyu, he would need the kaioken (the 180,000 number is actually KKx2, so your bonus fight would actually be restricted to KKx1).

In the Bonus fight, I have Piccolo winning. If Goku had trouble with KKx20 with a BP of 3,000,000, then a BP of 90,000 would have trouble resisting just to KKx10 as stated in the manga. A barely resistant 900,000 against a 1,300,000 (the power I give to Full Power Unweighted Piccolo) it's an easy win for Piccolo.
There's no difference between Kaioken x1 and Kaioken x2, they're the same thing.
Well... That's what I was actually trying to say on the post actually.

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Post by DanielSSJ » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:57 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:There's no difference between Kaioken x1 and Kaioken x2, they're the same thing.
There's no such thing as Kaioken x1. You're just confusing people by writing it like that. I think you meant to say that there's no difference between Kaioken and Kaioken x2.
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Post by SaiyanGod117 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:53 pm

Saiyan Saga Goku Kaioken x3 (no drawbacks) vs Zarbon and Dodoria

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Post by DanielSSJ » Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:20 pm

SaiyanGod117 wrote:Saiyan Saga Goku Kaioken x3 (no drawbacks) vs Zarbon and Dodoria
At Kaioken x3, Goku's packing a battle power of 24,000, dead even with Vegeta at the start of the Freeza arc. He's a bit stronger and a lot more skilled than either Zarbon or Dodoria, but not so much that he could take both at the same time. And if Zarbon transforms, Goku's done for.
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Post by dragonball0900 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:02 pm

SaiyanGod117 wrote:Saiyan Saga Goku Kaioken x3 (no drawbacks) vs Zarbon and Dodoria
Given how Frieza stated that if they work together Zarbon and Dodoria woud defeat a 24,000 level of power, I'd think the same happens to Goku here. Zarbon and Dodoria win after a good fight, even if Zarbon doesn't transform.

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Post by mcdjbeatz » Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:28 pm

SaiyanGod117 wrote:Saiyan Saga Goku Kaioken x3 (no drawbacks) vs Zarbon and Dodoria
This fight comes down to whether Zarbon transforms or not, Goku would be able to defeat both Zarbon and Dodoria with slight difficulty due to Vegeta being able to beat down Zarbon with ease when at the same level as Goku and even more easily kill Dodoria. However if Zarbon transforms it's game over, the scenario that I think would play out is both Dodoria and Zarbon are getting beaten down and Zarbon is forced into transforming and would be encouraged by Goku who would want a challenge. Zarbon then stomps and kills Goku.

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Hakai vs Buu
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Post by Hugo Boss » Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:42 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:Hakai vs Buu
Do you mean Beerus' technique that obliterates anything? I don't think Boo is immune to it.

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Post by Ki Breaker » Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:43 pm

Hugo Boss wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:Hakai vs Buu
Do you mean Beerus' technique that obliterates anything? I don't think Boo is immune to it.
Yeah that technique..
Can't he regenerate from atoms as well..
Unless berrus actually erases an entity from existence from hakai
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Post by Hugo Boss » Mon Feb 13, 2017 3:25 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:
Hugo Boss wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:Hakai vs Buu
Do you mean Beerus' technique that obliterates anything? I don't think Boo is immune to it.
Yeah that technique..
Can't he regenerate from atoms as well..
Unless berrus actually erases an entity from existence from hakai
Boo seems to be able to live in gaseous state, I don't know if he can be reduced to atoms and survive. I think Beerus' power works like you said.

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Post by TheGodfather93 » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:43 am

23rd Budokai Tenshinhan vs Young Piccolo Daimao

23rd Budokai Krillin vs Young Piccolo Daimao

Dead Grandpa Gohan vs 22nd Budokai Muten Roshi
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Post by TheUltimateNinja » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:59 am

TheGodfather93 wrote:23rd Budokai Tenshinhan vs Young Piccolo Daimao

23rd Budokai Krillin vs Young Piccolo Daimao

Dead Grandpa Gohan vs 22nd Budokai Muten Roshi
-23rd Budokai Tenshinhan takes this with high difficulty, he should be slightly stronger than Piccolo Daimao since he was in the same league as weighted Goku.

-Kuririn could beat Old Piccolo and put up an admirable fight against the Young Piccolo, but I don't think he's strong enough to finish the job.

-Roshi takes it with low difficulty. Gohan was only able to gain an advantage over Goku due to his tail weakness, he surrendered immediately once Goku's tail got ripped off, so Tailless Goku > Gohan, and 22nd Budokai Roshi should be a bit stronger than Post-Karin Goku even with his tail judging by his performance against Tenshinhan.

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