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Your TOP 10 Future Trunks arc scenes

Post by Noah » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:26 am

I couldn't stop thinking with myself about how Future Trunks arc had some great moments, even though it had problems with characterization, plot consistency and power scaling it was undoubtedly the best arc on Dragon Ball Super for me.

You can give me your opinions about what your favorites scenes in this arc and why, I'll start!

#10. The Fall Of Zamasu
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"Zamasu...!"

I remember that many thought Zamasu was going to turn out to be an ally, he was portrayed as a Kaioshin apprentice that had many doubts about the duties of the Gods in protecting their respective universe and sinful mortals. He wasn't satisfied that Gods of Creation should just observe and do nothing, he wanted to do justice with his own hands no matter what and the beginning of his fall where in this scene where he killed a Barbari. I felt that could be given time to be elaborated a little more, but still decent.

#9. Vegetto appears!
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"You became one, so we became one as well. I'm the fusion between Vegeta and Kakarotto, Vegetto!"

Could you believe it in the hype after the Episode 66 preview? This could be the climax of the arc, the final battle: Mortals fusion vs. Gods fusion! But sadly didn't turn out like that, Vegetto lasted less than 10 minutes on screen, disappointing many who thought he would last the whole episode. Gowasu explanation about Potara not being an eternal fusion for mortals wasn't that much convincing which gave me the impression Vegetto was back just for fan service.

#8."Ore wa Saiyajin no Ouji, Vegeta-sama da!"
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"Shall I tell you where you miscalculated?"

You know, first time I watched this scene I dislike it because it didn't make any sense! But ignoring the factors that made me not enjoy it, it was quite a memorable scene! Screw it how Vegeta managed to surpass Black, just feel it! His speech to Zamasu who stole the body of his rival: he showed respect to Goku once again, despising Black for being just a vessel and that he lacks what Saiyans are truly made of!
And of course to anyone that got used with the original japanese voice acting just get chills after hearing Horiwaka's Vegeta most memorable line!

#7. Future Trunks attacks Goku!
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"YOU BASTARD!"

Talking about chills, that's a scene that gives me goosebumps everytime I watch it! Some may say it was predictable, but for me was well done. The way how was build from the previous episode to this one, made it look convincing! Future Trunks was struggling inside, his world has been passing through a crisis once more, now lead to an enemy with the same appearance of an old friend he saved from certain death in the past timeline. This new enemy brought him so much despair! Killed his mother and girlfriend (apparently), even though Trunks fought bravely after, he barely survived in his attempt to escape. After being fully recovered the first thing he sees is the face of the same man that caused him that much suffering, moments of pain came back to his mind! He throws a hard punch without knowing he was attacking his actual friend. Now wasn't that a great way to end an episode? I felt the tension, but sadly was ruined in the first moments of the subsequent episode.

#6. Future Trunks vs. Goku Black
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"HOW DARE YOU?! MAI!"

Have I talked about how the soundtrack was improved greatly in this arc? Just review this from start to finish, the BGM fits perfectly! Which for me is a plus as it makes the scene's atmosphere feels even better! Now, by this time we didn't know much about what was Goku Black... Why he talks about Saiyans like he's not one either? Why he says "death is blessing for foolish human beings"? This is where all the mystery was being built through his character and was an interesting start. This fight was good, showed how savage Black could be and seeing Trunks's cunning tactics to escape was nice too! What a great start of an arc.

#5. Super Saiyan Rosé
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"How is this colour. Isn't it beautiful? If I were to name it in your style, it would be... Rosé."

Now, whoever hasn't criticized this form when we first knew about it before its debut, cast the first stone! "Another dumb recolor?", "Why pink?", "White would be better.", but we didn't realized how this color would suit so well in a character like Goku Black, that transformation scene was amazing, his flamboyant speech was even better, he was so proud of what he achieved: a power that not even Son Goku by himself could reach (at time), such a glory for a being "which its whole existence is simply vastly superior" as he claimed to himself.

#4. Goku vs. Goku Black
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"This isn't Son Goku fighting Son Goku. That Black fellow's Ki feels different."

Why this is so high on my list? It wasn't that amazing at all, an average fight with somewhat good choreography and animation? Well it's more about the impact this scene had in the series in my point of view than just a raw analysis. First let take a look to these videos, if we put them together is almost 6 millions views of people that were interested in the "Evil Goku" concept, overused in many fanfics prior to this arc. Now what I want to say with that? Well, the sole reason of an evil version of the main character in a series is to contrast the good nature of the latter as they would eventually fight against the other. When we first knew the enemy would be an evil version of Goku this was predictable, but we didn't know we would get that so soon! Boy, what an interesting scene it was, not by the fight itself, but their interactions! Nozawa perfomance doing both Black and Goku were top-notch! I was pleased that they kept the mystery surrounding Black while he was fighting with Goku, a great decision. I'm aware this scene had flaws, but I liked a lot.

#3. Goku and Future Trunks vs. Goku Black and Zamasu
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"They won't be easy to beat."

Back to #8, forget about the power scaling, screw it how Trunks managed to be useful and survive this, this fight was AMAZING! When was the last time we had 2-on-2 fight in this franchise? I don't remember! Such a great scene, starting from Goku vs. Zamasu and then Black shows up and both are willing to kill him, until Trunks interferes and makes everything looks even better, that Shida's cut was outstanding! It's a matter of opinions but I prefer this over his later cut in Vegetto vs. Merged Zamasu episode. This team battle is probably one of my favorites fight scenes on Super to date.

#2. Goku's Rage
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"You stole my body... And even killed Chichi and Goten..."

The first time I watched this I was speechless. When was the last time we saw Goku this angry? In the Freeza arc maybe? A long ago! People were and still are criticizing Goku's portrayal on Super and I'll not lie that I'm one of those, I don't like his characterization in this series, but let's talk about this scene... The cruel way in which Zamasu revealed how he wished with the Super Dragon Balls to exchange bodies with Goku and at the same instant we saw him from that timeline turning into a "green guy". He, Goten and Chichi had no clues of what was happening! Suddenly a weird dressed person with the very Goku likeness kill him and his family looks terrified, confused of what they just saw, then this same person kill them after in cold blood. Goku close his eyes don't believing in what he heard, while the two smile he bursts out in angry saying he will make them pay for that! Now the fight wasn't that impressive, but Goku was fierce and giving his all, when he finally pushes Black to a corner, he tries to land a punch while his enemy down! Was that the first time Goku attempted to murder someone in his adulthood? My goodness! But then Black clenched his fist, blasted Goku away and finished him with a dazzling move. That was one of the rare scenes in the franchise where being possessed by rage didn't result in anything. Terrific.

#1. Gohan says goodbye to Trunks
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"Trunks-san! Be well!"

I don't know how start... How I hated the ending of this arc, how I disliked Trunks because of his infinite asspulls to keep himself relevant to the plot, but should I blame the character for that or the writters? That's the question. I would wish for the arc end in the same instant Trunks defeated Zamasu with his Sword of Hope, it would be very worthy, but instead we got a crap conclusion that lead us to a scene of him crying while looking to present Gohan remembering his old mentor from the past, very upset with himself as in the end he couldn't avoid his world destruction. Is this sweat in my eyes or what? Man, that scene made me feel so sad, what a tragic end for this arc, what a tragic fate to Trunks, but what made me feel better is that he smiled when Gohan told to him be well... Farewell Trunks.
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Post by The gr » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:29 pm

Here my top ten for the anime
    10-goku and Zeno In the present
      9-zamasu kills a barbari
        8-vegito vs merged zamasu
          7-vegeta speech on Goku black
            6-trunks meets present gohan family
              5-goku and ft trunks vs Goku black and zamasu
                4- Goku vs Goku black first confrontation
                  3- hakai
                    2- Vegeta good bye to ft trunks
                      1- Goku black First apearence
                        honorable mention: super Saiyan rose first appearance, father and son galick gun, gowasu lamenting his own sin, ft Zeno meets present Zeno and merged zamasu first apearence
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                        Post by successoroffate » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:50 pm

                        10. The preview for the arc.
                        9. Zamasu's heel turn ?
                        8. Black spears Goku through Zamasu.
                        7. "Hakai"
                        6. Merged Zamasu is born (The only reason he's not N.1 is because I wanted him to be Goku with White Hair (Xicor) and I got the exact opposite.
                        5. Bulma dies.
                        4. Trunks False SSBlue.
                        3. Genki-Dama Sword.
                        2. SS Rose.
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                        Re: Your TOP 10 Future Trunks arc scenes

                        Post by Grimlock » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:55 pm

                        • Goku Black's first appearance.
                        • Final Kamehameha.
                        • Goku Black vs Super Saiyan Future Trunks (first fight on-screen).
                        • Goku Black transforms into Super Saiyan Rosé.
                        • Goku Black vs Super Saiyan 2 Goku.
                        • Super Saiyan 2 Goku vs Super Saiyan 2 Future Trunks.
                        • Super Saiyan 2 Goku vs Zamasu.
                        • Zeno wiping out Future Universe 7/Multiverse.
                        • Zeno meets Future Zeno.
                        • Night and clear weather fight scenes.

                        Bonus: Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black performs the attack (seen in my avatar) on Goku.

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                        Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sat Feb 11, 2017 3:28 pm

                        10. Goku and Trunks spar.
                        9. Goku getting rid of the Wall of Light.
                        8. Trunks and Mai romance.
                        7. Merged Zamasu
                        6. Father and Son and Galick Gun
                        5. Vegetto
                        4. Goku's rage.
                        3. SSR Black in #56 and him kicking Vegeta's ass, ah so satisfying,
                        2. Trunks "Transformation" for the first time.
                        1. Trunks Slicing Zamasu the questionablity of it asside, no doubt the most satisfying moment of the entire arc.

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                        Post by MyNiggaGoku » Sat Feb 11, 2017 4:23 pm

                        10.Goku Black's introduction.
                        09.Gohan-Future Trunks goodbye scene.
                        08.Goku & Future Trunks Vs Goku Black & Future Zamasu ( Episode 57 )
                        07.Future Trunks killing Merged Zamasu.
                        06.Beerus killing Present Zamasu.
                        05.Goku Vs Goku Black in the present.
                        04.Future Trunks Vs Goku Black ( 1st Fight )
                        03.Vegetto appears.
                        02.Super Saiyan Rose debut.
                        01.Vegeta beating up Goku Black ( Episode 63 )
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                        Post by Doctor. » Sat Feb 11, 2017 4:44 pm

                        Noah wrote:Was that the first time Goku attempted to murder someone in his adulthood?
                        No, there was Freeza (who actually died to Goku's hand in the future, along with Cold) and Dabra. And Yakon and Boo actually got murdered by him.

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                        Post by MajinMan » Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:00 am

                        1. Episode 56 (This is one of my top 10 favorite episodes in the entire franchise. I like it that much.)

                        2. Merged Zamasu's mental breakdown in episode 66.

                        3. Goku Black's introduction.

                        4. Goku and Trunks vs Black and Zamasu.

                        5. Vegetto Blue vs Merged Zamasu.

                        6. Beerus Hakai.

                        7. Trunks meets Gohan's family.

                        8. Zamasu and Gowasu talk about justice.

                        9. Trunks Genki Sword scene.

                        10. Goku Black's identity revealed.
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                        Post by Cetra » Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:37 am

                        I. Whatever Happened, Happened - The Black Cycle
                        II. Univerzalmasu - The Invincible One
                        III. Super Saiyajin God Vegetto VS Creator God Gattai Zamasu
                        IV. Trunks' Cloud Strife-induced Omnislash VS Gattai Zamasu
                        V. Saiyajin VS the True Power of Creator God Gattai Zamasu
                        VI. Goku knocks back Alternate Zamasu
                        VII. Vegeta VS Black - Rematch
                        VIII. Trunks VS Alternate Zamasu - Mafuuba
                        IX. Super Saiyajin 3 Goku VS Super Saiyajin 2 Trunks
                        X. Trunks' Final Flash
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                        Post by SaiyanGod117 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:38 am

                        MajinMan wrote:1. Episode 56 (This is one of my top 10 favorite episodes in the entire franchise. I like it that much.)

                        2. Merged Zamasu's mental breakdown in episode 66.

                        3. Goku Black's introduction.

                        4. Goku and Trunks vs Black and Zamasu.

                        5. Vegetto Blue vs Merged Zamasu.

                        6. Beerus Hakai.

                        7. Trunks meets Gohan's family.

                        8. Zamasu and Gowasu talk about justice.

                        9. Trunks Genki Sword scene.

                        10. Goku Black's identity revealed.
                        Pretty much this, there's not a lot I can switch around the arc was short.

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                        Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:30 pm

                        1. Goku Black's introduction
                        2. Gohan wishing Future Trunks well as he leaves
                        3. Future Trunks cutting Merged Zamasu in half with a Genki Dama sword
                        4. Beerus' "Hakai" of Zamasu
                        5. SSJB Vegeta's beatdown of Goku Black
                        6. Goku Black's debut of Super Saiyan Rose
                        7. Zamasu descending from the sky and telling Goku Black he promised that he would kill Goku
                        8. Future Trunks meeting Gohan's family and wondering what life would have been like if not for Goku Black
                        9. SSJB Goku's rampage after finding out what happened to Alternate Time Goten and Chi Chi
                        10. SSJB Goku and SSJ Future Trunks teaming up again Zamasu and Goku Black

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                        - The Father-Son Galick Gun
                        - Vegetto transforming into a SSJB
                        - The return of Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken
                        - The birth of Merged Zamasu

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                        Re: Your TOP 10 Future Trunks arc scenes

                        Post by Noah » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:40 pm

                        Doctor. wrote:
                        Noah wrote:Was that the first time Goku attempted to murder someone in his adulthood?
                        No, there was Freeza (who actually died to Goku's hand in the future, along with Cold) and Dabra. And Yakon and Boo actually got murdered by him.
                        You missed by point, Doc.. I didn't ask if Goku actually had killing anybody in adulthood, but see back on Namek Goku was angry with Freeza and he could kill him in there but after the peak of their battle, he saw that it was not worth it at the end, he just presumaly did it because he had no choice and the same could be said about his future counterpart and the deaths of Yakon and Boo. Pardon, but Dabura? When?

                        My question is that we never saw Goku trying to kill someone by sheer willpower, let alone try to hit a fallen person, which shows that he was in a state of anger never seen before.


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                        Post by Doctor. » Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:00 pm

                        Noah wrote:My question is that we never saw Goku trying to kill someone by sheer willpower
                        But we did, he killed Yakon. He definitely had other choices, such as teleporting him away or knocking him out, but he chose to kill him. In regards to Dabra, he said he'd kill him to get Piccolo and Kuririn back to normal (likewise, he said multiple times he'd kill Cell as well).

                        Goku trying to kill Black is just him returning back to normal after regressing as a character in ResF when he spared Freeza again. I'm not arguing against the fact that it's a good moment (ignoring the nonsensical rage boost that made the scene possible in the first place), but it isn't something new for him. He hesitated after all, which is what made him lose.

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                        Post by MisteryOne » Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:12 pm

                        Honorable mentions:
                        -Every time Black spoke. Loved his voice and personality, specially his 4 sadistic crazy faces. Such a pity that the bad writing of the anime version make him look like a dumb incompetent.
                        -Some of the moments with Zamasu showing his tea to Gowasu. That music, that sense of mistery...
                        -Black vs SS2 Goku. Would have been in Top 10 if it was SS3 Goku and if it didn't create such a stupid paradox. Black was also even dumber than usual.
                        -Goku's fury because of Black killing his family. My favourite part was Black's attack trough.
                        -As mentioned in the OP, the Fall of Zamasu.

                        10. Trunks slices Merged Zamasu in half
                        Would have been 100000 times better if it wasn't such a stupid and nonsensical asspull (for the THIRD time in the arc!)
                        9. BLACK! I...I...I WILL KILL YOU MYSELF!
                        Fucking great transformation moment. But in the end it amounted to nothing. Trunks should have beaten Black with this form, not Vegeta. I really hope its that way in the manga.
                        8.SON! GOKUUUU!
                        This moment would be on Top 5 if it wasn't because of the so fucking nonsensical reason why Merged Zamasu screamed Goku's name. Great acting, I just love his seiyuu (and I noticed he is Sakamoto from Gintama)
                        7. Goku/Trunks vs Zamasus
                        Nonsensical power levels, great fight. All hail Shida.
                        6.Because you are just a copy, and I'm the Saiyan Prince, Vegeta-sama, that's why!
                        While I vastly prefer the manga version, and while it was nonsensical as fuck, and even while I love Black, this moment was great. Vegeta deserved it. Even Bulma had more confidence in Goku that in Vegeta. But he was the one who deserved to best Black (apart from Trunks, but well)
                        5.HAKAI!
                        Do I need to say more? Fucking fantastic OST.
                        4. Goku Black's first apareance.
                        Felt in love with the OST the first time I heard it.
                        3. Super Saiyan Rosé and Future Zamasu first appareance.
                        The last part of Episode 56 was pure gold, and Birth of a God is amazing.
                        2. I'm not Vegeta or Kakarotto, I'm Vegito! And this is...Vegito BLUEEE!
                        While Merged Zamasu had me way more hyped at first, he was so a failure personality wise. He just felt like a SS Zamasu, and Mirai Zamasu was a pretty awful villain. At that point, I was just interested in the first battle between Pothala fusions. Then Vegito appeared and I felt like a kid. I remember now why I was such a Vegito fanboy.
                        1. Vegito vs Merged Zamasu. Just epic. Everything. It was like a fucking mental orgasm
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                        Post by Super Saiyan Swagger » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:51 pm

                        MisteryOne wrote: 8.SON! GOKUUUU!
                        This moment would be on Top 5 if it wasn't because of the so fucking nonsensical reason why Merged Zamasu screamed Goku's name.
                        "Nonsensical reason"? Goku turned half of his body into purple goop with a full powered Kamehameha followed by being kicked the shit out of with Blue Kaioken to top it all off. I'd scream his name out in fury as well if that happened to me.

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                        Post by Noah » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:42 pm

                        Doctor. wrote:But we did, he killed Yakon. He definitely had other choices, such as teleporting him away or knocking him out, but he chose to kill him. In regards to Dabra, he said he'd kill him to get Piccolo and Kuririn back to normal (likewise, he said multiple times he'd kill Cell as well).

                        Goku trying to kill Black is just him returning back to normal after regressing as a character in ResF when he spared Freeza again. I'm not arguing against the fact that it's a good moment (ignoring the nonsensical rage boost that made the scene possible in the first place), but it isn't something new for him. He hesitated after all, which is what made him lose.
                        Goku was annoyed by Yakon ability of eating his energy, I saw that scene much as he teaching him a lesson: "Oh you like eating energy? Let me give you as much to see if you can handle" he was testing Yakon and in the end killed him. About Dabura and Cell, he said he would but he didn't have the chance to do it anyway.

                        Again, by point was that Goku never attempt to hit an opponent lay down even when he was angry, I didn't saw something like that against Freeza for example, he even warned him about the chasing energy disk attacks coming behind him.

                        Also Goku didn't hesitated he was willing to punch through Black skull head, but that was the moment where Black got strong due Goku's rage and was able to defend himself.
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                        Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:44 pm

                        Noah wrote:
                        Doctor. wrote:But we did, he killed Yakon. He definitely had other choices, such as teleporting him away or knocking him out, but he chose to kill him. In regards to Dabra, he said he'd kill him to get Piccolo and Kuririn back to normal (likewise, he said multiple times he'd kill Cell as well).

                        Goku trying to kill Black is just him returning back to normal after regressing as a character in ResF when he spared Freeza again. I'm not arguing against the fact that it's a good moment (ignoring the nonsensical rage boost that made the scene possible in the first place), but it isn't something new for him. He hesitated after all, which is what made him lose.
                        Goku was annoyed by Yakon ability of eating his energy, I saw that scene much as he teaching him a lesson: "Oh you like eating energy? Let me give you as much to see if you can handle" he was testing Yakon and in the end killed him. About Dabura and Cell, he said he would but he didn't have the chance to do it anyway.

                        Again, by point was that Goku never attempt to hit an opponent lay down even when he was angry, I didn't saw something like that against Freeza for example, he even warned him about the chasing energy disk attacks coming behind him.

                        Also Goku didn't hesitated he was willing to punch through Black skull head, but that was the moment where Black got strong due Goku's rage and was able to defend himself.
                        Goku definitely intended to kill Yakon, he turned SSJ2 to blow him up.

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                        Re: Your TOP 10 Future Trunks arc scenes

                        Post by Noah » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:53 pm

                        TheUltimateNinja wrote:
                        Noah wrote:Goku was annoyed by Yakon ability of eating his energy, I saw that scene much as he teaching him a lesson: "Oh you like eating energy? Let me give you as much to see if you can handle" he was testing Yakon and in the end killed him.
                        Goku definitely intended to kill Yakon, he turned SSJ2 to blow him up.
                        I just have a different point of view than you guys, he indeed killed Yakon yes.
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                        Post by Noah » Thu Mar 31, 2022 6:14 pm

                        Funny how years after reading through this thread made me think that this arc could have been much better if was in fact the final arc of DBS. Introducing the other universes, Kaioshin, GoDs in ToP to just have them afterwards meet their demises in the hands of Black and Zamasu would be impactful.
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                        Re: Your TOP 10 Future Trunks arc scenes

                        Post by DBPirate » Fri Apr 01, 2022 12:34 pm

                        I don't think I could rank them in order, but here are my 10 favorites.

                        Goku Black's introduction + Future Trunks vs. Black
                        Goku spars with Zamasu
                        Zamasu on Planet Babari
                        Goku and Trunks vs. Black and Zamasu
                        Beerus destroys Zamasu
                        Goku's rage
                        Goku and Vegeta vs. Fused Zamasu
                        Vegito vs. Zamasu
                        Spirit Sword
                        Gohan says goodbye to Trunks

                        Honorable Mention: Super Saiyan Rosé

                        This was actually really tough. So many great moments. This is probably my favorite saga in all of Dragon Ball.
                        Favorite sagas: Tien Shinhan (DB), Frieza (Z), Future Trunks (Super)
                        Favorite characters: Frieza, Future Trunks, Beerus, Android 17, Zamasu, Gohan

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