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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by Psykomatik » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:32 pm

Next week looks disappointing. I really hope Karasawa is in 82, because if he's not i'm gonna kill myself...

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by Alee9977 » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:33 pm

Wow, I haven't seen any bad or weird shot in this episode, everything was on-model, and what a great fight, NEP though... doesn't look well.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by Mazingerdestro » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:34 pm

Well I wasn't expecting much but....dude what a disappointment...not even a single highlight in this episode....Not even a great moment....animation mediocre at best and off model moments returned and strong....next episode doesn't look like anything special either....so Toei gave 1 good fight just so they will deliver 2 bad ones.....Wasn't the schedule suppose to be improving?
Also what's the point of making new gohan character designs and spoiling "ultimate" in v-jump and then doing nothing? Seriously. that episode was mediocre at best in terms of animation but a really big fail in every other aspect

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by Cursemark505 » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:37 pm

You guys are either blind or must have been watching a different episode from the one I watched

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:39 pm

Psykomatik wrote:Next week looks disappointing. I really hope Karasawa is in 82, because if he's not i'm gonna kill myself...
If Karasawa isn't around for EP82, then he may have truly left the show. Finger crossed that is not the case.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by Psykomatik » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:39 pm

Cursemark505 wrote:You guys are either blind or must have been watching a different episode from the one I watched
Yeah, totally. I didn't understand Mazingerdestro's comment. Thought he was trolling like cuartas did with Tate some time ago, so the best thing to do is to ignore them. :P

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by kinisking » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:40 pm

You guys didn't like the animation ? I thought the repeated frames were the best we've gotten of them in the series. It really felt like a lot of Z.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by Alee9977 » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:43 pm

Mazingerdestro wrote:Well I wasn't expecting much but....dude what a disappointment...not even a single highlight in this episode....Not even a great moment....animation mediocre at best and off model moments returned and strong....next episode doesn't look like anything special either....so Toei gave 1 good fight just so they will deliver 2 bad ones.....Wasn't the schedule suppose to be improving?
Also what's the point of making new gohan character designs and spoiling "ultimate" in v-jump and then doing nothing? Seriously. that episode was mediocre at best in terms of animation but a really big fail in every other aspect
Are we watching the same show?? Where did you see a strong off model moment? Or bad animation? Maybe it was your streaming quality because this episode felt so Z to me.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by IGhostUlt » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:43 pm

That's crazy how some of you thought this was a disappointing. This was one of the best fights I've seen in super.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:43 pm

kinisking wrote:You guys didn't like the animation ? I thought the repeated frames were the best we've gotten of them in the series. It really felt like a lot of Z.
I thought it was pretty great, I mean overall it was pretty conservative, but it did it super well.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by Psykomatik » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:45 pm

IGhostUlt wrote:That's crazy how some of you thought this was a disappointing. This was one of the best fights I've seen in super.
Except Mazingerdestro, nobody thought this episode was a disappointment. This episode was really great to me, and i really enjoyed it. Not one of the best fights in Super, but it was great.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by Mazingerdestro » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:46 pm

Alee9977 wrote:
Mazingerdestro wrote:Well I wasn't expecting much but....dude what a disappointment...not even a single highlight in this episode....Not even a great moment....animation mediocre at best and off model moments returned and strong....next episode doesn't look like anything special either....so Toei gave 1 good fight just so they will deliver 2 bad ones.....Wasn't the schedule suppose to be improving?
Also what's the point of making new gohan character designs and spoiling "ultimate" in v-jump and then doing nothing? Seriously. that episode was mediocre at best in terms of animation but a really big fail in every other aspect
Are we watching the same show?? Where did you see a strong off model moment? Or bad animation? Maybe it was your streaming quality because this episode felt so Z to me.
Yes because as we know streaming affects animation. I agree 110%. You are right
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by BakaManiaHD » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:49 pm

Mazingerdestro wrote:Well I wasn't expecting much but....dude what a disappointment...not even a single highlight in this episode....Not even a great moment....animation mediocre at best and off model moments returned and strong....next episode doesn't look like anything special either....so Toei gave 1 good fight just so they will deliver 2 bad ones.....Wasn't the schedule suppose to be improving?
Also what's the point of making new gohan character designs and spoiling "ultimate" in v-jump and then doing nothing? Seriously. that episode was mediocre at best in terms of animation but a really big fail in every other aspect
I think you're overreacting a little bit, this is Dragon Ball Super
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by Mazingerdestro » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:51 pm

BakaManiaHD wrote:
Mazingerdestro wrote:Well I wasn't expecting much but....dude what a disappointment...not even a single highlight in this episode....Not even a great moment....animation mediocre at best and off model moments returned and strong....next episode doesn't look like anything special either....so Toei gave 1 good fight just so they will deliver 2 bad ones.....Wasn't the schedule suppose to be improving?
Also what's the point of making new gohan character designs and spoiling "ultimate" in v-jump and then doing nothing? Seriously. that episode was mediocre at best in terms of animation but a really big fail in every other aspect
I think you're overreacting a little bit, this is Dragon Ball Super
Overreact? I just said I didn't like it.....It's not like forced it on anybody. Is everything not positive an overreaction?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by Alee9977 » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:52 pm

Mazingerdestro wrote:
Alee9977 wrote:
Mazingerdestro wrote:Well I wasn't expecting much but....dude what a disappointment...not even a single highlight in this episode....Not even a great moment....animation mediocre at best and off model moments returned and strong....next episode doesn't look like anything special either....so Toei gave 1 good fight just so they will deliver 2 bad ones.....Wasn't the schedule suppose to be improving?
Also what's the point of making new gohan character designs and spoiling "ultimate" in v-jump and then doing nothing? Seriously. that episode was mediocre at best in terms of animation but a really big fail in every other aspect
Are we watching the same show?? Where did you see a strong off model moment? Or bad animation? Maybe it was your streaming quality because this episode felt so Z to me.
Yes because as we know streaming affects animation. I agree 110%.
I never said it affects the animation, but maybe the streaming didn't let you appreciate the full fight and missed some fotograms.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by kinisking » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:54 pm

Mazingerdestro wrote:
BakaManiaHD wrote:
Mazingerdestro wrote:Well I wasn't expecting much but....dude what a disappointment...not even a single highlight in this episode....Not even a great moment....animation mediocre at best and off model moments returned and strong....next episode doesn't look like anything special either....so Toei gave 1 good fight just so they will deliver 2 bad ones.....Wasn't the schedule suppose to be improving?
Also what's the point of making new gohan character designs and spoiling "ultimate" in v-jump and then doing nothing? Seriously. that episode was mediocre at best in terms of animation but a really big fail in every other aspect
I think you're overreacting a little bit, this is Dragon Ball Super
Overreact? I just said I didn't like it.....It's not like forced it on anybody. Is everything not positive an overreaction?
It's an over reaction considering this episode looked better than like 90% of super.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by Ajay » Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:01 pm

Episode 80

Animation Supervisors
Kinoshita Yui Manabe Shuuichiro

Assistant Animation Supervisor
Kusunoki Tomoko Tanaka Chihiro Ono Tsutomu Tate Naoki Ishikawa Osamu

Key Animators
Ikeda Hiroaki Iwata Yoshimi Ushinohama Yui Funakoshi Mayumi Matsuki Yasunori Miyai Kana Kusunoki Tomoko Kinoshita Yui Takemoto Keiko Fukushima Youko Takagi Hiroaki Tsuchida Ryoun Hashimoto Kouhei Irie Mitsuru Kaneda Nanami Samukawa Atamichi Komura Yuzuha Sakamoto Miki Sato Shun Hata Atsuya Fujimoto Koki Matsuo Shunsuke Miyazaki Koki Teramoto Akira

Manabe Shuuichiro Higashide Futoshi Miuma Kenji Nashizawa Koji Mura Shuntaro Yashima Yoshitaka Yamazaki Hideki Hattori Masumi

2nd Key Animators
Tsuji Miyako Yokoyama Miyuki Tsukino Mua Sin Yeong-sun Usami Shohei A-Line TAP

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Well, they really went hard on that, all things considered. Higashide and Manabe doing some good work! A good chunk of repeated frames, but that's not inherently bad if they're well done, and they were. Lots of nice movement in the midst of it all, too!

No real complaints in terms of action, honestly. Not entirely sure how that could have been even remotely disappointing to anyone. If there's anything to complain about, it's the constant changes in art style and quality.

I found it very jarring. Nothing consistent there whatsoever. Some of the art in the first half was pretty bad and reminded me of #23, but the second half was better, so it's not the end of the world.

I really enjoyed the storyboarding and direction. Kohei Hatano is definitely on-point when he gets the chance. I wish his downtime episodes were a little stronger, but as long as keeps delivering episodes like these, I'm fine.

Who was that next week? Didn't get a good look, but even then, I feel like I would have spotted Shimanuki and/or Karasawa. Will have to check it out a little more clearly once the simulcast is up. Strange.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:04 pm

Mazingerdestro wrote:Also what's the point of making new gohan character designs and spoiling "ultimate" in v-jump and then doing nothing?
He hasn't done anything to recover his Ultimate Form yet. Since he's one of few that knows the universes will be destroyed, he'll probably train his ass off once these preliminaries are over. The design isn't for nothing.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by Alee9977 » Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:05 pm

That's a large list though... And I'm starting to worry about this.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by Psykomatik » Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:06 pm

Alee9977 wrote:That's a large list though... And I'm starting to worry about this.
Well, it's a Wanpack episode, nothing weird to me.

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