Cipher wrote:Baggie_Saiyan wrote:You are right that is not the best example to use but I couldn't think of anything better to describe it. I am not saying people should feign ignorance at all, everyone here knows about these things but it doesn't have to be brought up all the time that is my point every time I open thread that is what I am feeling, someone posted the FTrunks designs sheets had a date on the bottom that was after the arc the bad production was bought up and people started panicking and then it turned out it didn't mean anything. It is like someone is constantly reminding you about the bad times in your life. Regarding Super proper, the negative aspects of the show get talked about way more than the positives, take #66 the positives of that episode got completely crushed under the negatives or the fact that #79 has a fraction of the discussion that #77 & 79 has.
And I am not meaning to say Kanzenshuu is a bad community at all, it is just I am not enjoying myself as much nowadays and my posts were are the list of reasons why I think that.
I'm with you on not wanting to come on and just vibe on negativity. Reading negative knee-jerk reactionary comments is also incredibly tiring, and the
Super subforum is full of those. I think more founded criticism is always acceptable though. And yes, as others have pointed out, controversy tends to breed longer group conversations.
My advice is to stop reading the forums if you're not getting any joy out of them. There's no crime in that. There weren't be any way to avoid negativity or criticism of the new material on here, as the boards are full of members invested enough in/curious enough about the series to follow it even during periods of (arguable or otherwise) freefall in quality, which won't go unremarked upon. Ditto for subpar home releases, etc. Words tend not to get minced.
To Kanzenshuu's great credit as a community, I have never once touched the foe list feature.
Of course there isn't anything wrong with criticism and such but it is just whenever something controversial happens no matter big or small it just gets completely blown out of proportion like I said the positives just get completely squished under the weight and it seems not a lot of folks take the "there is always light after the tunnel" mentality, for eg. the whole Goku Kiss thing, a pretty small part of an episode, doesn't affect the plot or characterisation yet there were pages and pages of people blowing up over that and the way Toei write it, you could actually interpret it differently but a lot of people chose not too that is what it has been like this last few year or so.
In regards to your second paragraph there are people who are obviously not enjoying the new series and that is absolutely fine, but I what fail to understand is why they continue to watch it let alone spend time discussing it, they are always going to have that negative mindset I have witnessed it time and time again, back when
Super was in the Freeza arc and U6 arc, I was not enjoying the show at all and I wasn't on Kanzenshuu that much, after I seen an episode I just didn't want to discuss it at all and the Black arc is what got me super pumped again and I had that drive to discuss again. I have tried to ignore that sub-form but it is hard when I do want to discuss
Super, I have more or less stopped posting on CBR forums for a similar reason the anti-DCEU crusade was just too bad, way worse than anything I am feeling here it was just so hard to discuss anything without negativity interjecting itself there and again I fail to understand why people discuss something they hate/dislike so much, it is pretty big frustration of mine when it comes to online communities in general.
Kanzenshuu is perhaps the best online community I have seen though as you say and the staff here are pretty great and any genuine bad posters do get ironed out pretty quick, it is weird at the same time they can bee seen as strict but then they can also be pretty lenient too.