You might be able to rip audio from Xenoverse or something for Ayres' Freeza, but that'd probably only work for the odd throwaway line.IAmTheMilkMan wrote:Haven't gotten that far yet, but I'm sure it's bound to happen. I suppose I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.SaiyamanMS wrote:Also, have you had any cases where you've been stuck with a line from Nadolny's Gohan or Young's Freeza without Clinkenbeard or Ayres dialogue to replace it? How do you handle such a situation?
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His version is overly literal and Engrish-y. I sure hope not.simtek34 wrote:Have you thought of using Kageyama's English version for the English dub at all?IAmTheMilkMan wrote:No, I'm sticking with the Japanese version. I considered using an English version, but I've never heard one that I was happy with. This one is pretty decent, but I wish it were just a little more professional sounding.DefinitiveDubs wrote:Could you consider adding this awesome English version of OP 1 to the dubbed version of Z Recut?
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For Z and Kai recut, how will you be able to edit the filler for how Bidel finds out Gohan is the Great Saiyaman? Since the whole Chobi/Great Saiyaman robber thing wasn't in the manga?
BTW, how far are you in Kai Recut?
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Have you heard MidiGuyDP's version? I've used it in the past with his permission, so I'm sure he'd let you use it as well if you ask, assuming you like it, of course.IAmTheMilkMan wrote:No, I'm sticking with the Japanese version. I considered using an English version, but I've never heard one that I was happy with. This one is pretty decent, but I wish it were just a little more professional sounding.DefinitiveDubs wrote:Could you consider adding this awesome English version of OP 1 to the dubbed version of Z Recut?
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I like the lyrics he changed, but his singing is...bleh.OmegaRockman wrote:Have you heard MidiGuyDP's version? I've used it in the past with his permission, so I'm sure he'd let you use it as well if you ask, assuming you like it, of course.IAmTheMilkMan wrote:No, I'm sticking with the Japanese version. I considered using an English version, but I've never heard one that I was happy with. This one is pretty decent, but I wish it were just a little more professional sounding.DefinitiveDubs wrote:Could you consider adding this awesome English version of OP 1 to the dubbed version of Z Recut?
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When you say you prioritised the Japanese audio in DB, what's the trade-off for the English track? I've only watched a few scenes in English and couldn't see any problems.
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Basically, I'm pretty sure, he meant he structured the visual edits around the Japanese audio. When it came to the dub, that was edited to fit the new visual cues. At least, I think that's what he meant.Fizzer wrote:When you say you prioritised the Japanese audio in DB, what's the trade-off for the English track? I've only watched a few scenes in English and couldn't see any problems.
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So, I've just used your cut to revisit Dragon Ball after a decade at least. Gotta say: Absolutely phenomenal job. Pure delight at times. I can't say thank you enough for putting in the time to do all that editing. Now I've finished up, I'm looking to move into Z. Since you haven't released a cut of Z or Kai yet; is there a particular version you recommend in the meantime? I watched DB Recut on Japanese audio with subtitles and absolutely loved it. For now, I've got a bunch of the Funimation bluray set (incomplete as of now but looking at amazon now to get the ones I'm missing). Is it worth sticking with it, or should I look for another version (keeping in mind that I liked the JPN audio and ENG subtitles of the Recut). I wouldn't mind an English dub, but I've heard that certain dubs take massive liberties with the translations.
Whatever the case, thank you so much for your work on Dragon Ball Recut. It brought a massive amount of joy to me after not watching DB for so long. Keep it up, mate. You're an absolute legend.
Whatever the case, thank you so much for your work on Dragon Ball Recut. It brought a massive amount of joy to me after not watching DB for so long. Keep it up, mate. You're an absolute legend.
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DBZ Kai is an absolute delight. Even though it has SOME filler, the emphasis to indicate very little because of what they didn't cut out either because of the animation itself, or stuff they left in for whatever reason, it's considerably cut down from the original version of Z.Muntz wrote:So, I've just used your cut to revisit Dragon Ball after a decade at least. Gotta say: Absolutely phenomenal job. Pure delight at times. I can't say thank you enough for putting in the time to do all that editing. Now I've finished up, I'm looking to move into Z. Since you haven't released a cut of Z or Kai yet; is there a particular version you recommend in the meantime? I watched DB Recut on Japanese audio with subtitles and absolutely loved it. For now, I've got a bunch of the Funimation bluray set (incomplete as of now but looking at amazon now to get the ones I'm missing). Is it worth sticking with it, or should I look for another version (keeping in mind that I liked the JPN audio and ENG subtitles of the Recut). I wouldn't mind an English dub, but I've heard that certain dubs take massive liberties with the translations.
Whatever the case, thank you so much for your work on Dragon Ball Recut. It brought a massive amount of joy to me after not watching DB for so long. Keep it up, mate. You're an absolute legend.
The English dub is PHENOMENAL. Minus some inconsistent terminologies, I have my own thread for that if you wanna know what exactly on that subject, & some pronunciation differences, Saiyan pronounced as "Say-in" rather than "Sigh-in" for example, but I'm sure you knew that, the dub is as close to perfect as we've ever gotten. Not just in translation either. The actors are FAR better than when they started out. Plus, the show, minus the Buu saga, isn't cropped, or remastered poorly like the DBZ Blu-Rays, which I can't believe you actually picked up. They actually went back to the original masters & touched up the footage really well & what they couldn't readily touch up, they reanimated.
I can't believe you never checked it out. It's way more worth it to get the Kai Blu-Rays than the Z ones, believe me.
Only dubs that matter are DB, Kai, & Super. Nothing else.
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Agree with Scsigs, Kai is great! Faithful, well acted dub! And the Japanese version is in stereo and isn't muffled like on the Z releases! Now to ask my parents to Pre-Order Parts 1&2!Scsigs wrote:DBZ Kai is an absolute delight. Even though it has SOME filler, the emphasis to indicate very little because of what they didn't cut out either because of the animation itself, or stuff they left in for whatever reason, it's considerably cut down from the original version of Z.Muntz wrote:So, I've just used your cut to revisit Dragon Ball after a decade at least. Gotta say: Absolutely phenomenal job. Pure delight at times. I can't say thank you enough for putting in the time to do all that editing. Now I've finished up, I'm looking to move into Z. Since you haven't released a cut of Z or Kai yet; is there a particular version you recommend in the meantime? I watched DB Recut on Japanese audio with subtitles and absolutely loved it. For now, I've got a bunch of the Funimation bluray set (incomplete as of now but looking at amazon now to get the ones I'm missing). Is it worth sticking with it, or should I look for another version (keeping in mind that I liked the JPN audio and ENG subtitles of the Recut). I wouldn't mind an English dub, but I've heard that certain dubs take massive liberties with the translations.
Whatever the case, thank you so much for your work on Dragon Ball Recut. It brought a massive amount of joy to me after not watching DB for so long. Keep it up, mate. You're an absolute legend.
The English dub is PHENOMENAL. Minus some inconsistent terminologies, I have my own thread for that if you wanna know what exactly on that subject, & some pronunciation differences, Saiyan pronounced as "Say-in" rather than "Sigh-in" for example, but I'm sure you knew that, the dub is as close to perfect as we've ever gotten. Not just in translation either. The actors are FAR better than when they started out. Plus, the show, minus the Buu saga, isn't cropped, or remastered poorly like the DBZ Blu-Rays, which I can't believe you actually picked up. They actually went back to the original masters & touched up the footage really well & what they couldn't readily touch up, they reanimated.
I can't believe you never checked it out. It's way more worth it to get the Kai Blu-Rays than the Z ones, believe me.
I just downloaded Recut after months of stalling (Since July 2016). Is finally time to sit back and watch! Wish me luck!
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The problem with Kai isn't that it keeps some filler...but that it removes either manga scenes (Old couple shot by the guys who would later shoot Majin Boo's puppy) or refer to filler that was cut (Chichi goes over to watch broadcast of Saiyan saga fight and faints...her being passed out is retained in one Kai scene, two oni remember Goku falling down to Hell). Also, the changes in actors for Kai's dub and afterwards, even if at least some of the replacements are for the better (like Freeza), means that there can never be voice consistency with...say..... GT and Resurrection 'F'/Super.
...ought of curiosity, since the first 17 episodes have Kei17's Original Broadcast Audio released on certain channels, have you considered using it for some of the Saiyan saga scenes which were from the manga but cut in Kai (and only for those scenes of course. The rest should be Kai's audio for both dubs)?
...ought of curiosity, since the first 17 episodes have Kei17's Original Broadcast Audio released on certain channels, have you considered using it for some of the Saiyan saga scenes which were from the manga but cut in Kai (and only for those scenes of course. The rest should be Kai's audio for both dubs)?
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Thanks for the suggestion! I've kept away from Kai because I heard that it was a victim of rampant censorship. Blue Mr Popos, no blood, etc. Now, censorship doesn't necessarily bother me, however, if I can see something that represents the creator's original vision, then I'd prefer that. It sounds like Kai might be worth checking out, though.Scsigs wrote: DBZ Kai is an absolute delight. Even though it has SOME filler, the emphasis to indicate very little because of what they didn't cut out either because of the animation itself, or stuff they left in for whatever reason, it's considerably cut down from the original version of Z.
The English dub is PHENOMENAL. Minus some inconsistent terminologies, I have my own thread for that if you wanna know what exactly on that subject, & some pronunciation differences, Saiyan pronounced as "Say-in" rather than "Sigh-in" for example, but I'm sure you knew that, the dub is as close to perfect as we've ever gotten. Not just in translation either. The actors are FAR better than when they started out. Plus, the show, minus the Buu saga, isn't cropped, or remastered poorly like the DBZ Blu-Rays, which I can't believe you actually picked up. They actually went back to the original masters & touched up the footage really well & what they couldn't readily touch up, they reanimated.
I can't believe you never checked it out. It's way more worth it to get the Kai Blu-Rays than the Z ones, believe me.
As for actually buying the Z Blu rays; I've just always wanted to own some kind of physical version of Z. I watched it religiously on TV as a kid and I love collecting nostalgic crap like that from my childhood.
Thanks for your input, I'll check out a few episodes of Kai and see how I go.
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That only occurred for the US broadcast on children's TV. The uncut version of Kai available on DVD and Blu-Ray still has blood and black Mr. Popo. (There's a few minor instances of things being toned down. Instances of flipping the bird being removed, the death of Goku and Raditz having the excessive blood removed. But overall, it's a solid experience.)Muntz wrote:I've kept away from Kai because I heard that it was a victim of rampant censorship. Blue Mr Popos, no blood, etc.
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Ah, that's good to know! I'll definitely look into it! Thanks!SaiyamanMS wrote:That only occurred for the US broadcast on children's TV. The uncut version of Kai available on DVD and Blu-Ray still has blood and black Mr. Popo. (There's a few minor instances of things being toned down. Instances of flipping the bird being removed, the death of Goku and Raditz having the excessive blood removed. But overall, it's a solid experience.)Muntz wrote:I've kept away from Kai because I heard that it was a victim of rampant censorship. Blue Mr Popos, no blood, etc.
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Seeing as Recut's purpose is to remove as much filler as possible, I imagine that scene would be cut altogether.simtek34 wrote:Are you gonna (Hopefuly) use the TFS version of the Cell Game Reenacement in DBZ and Kai Recut?
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Was it in the manga?simtek34 wrote:Are you gonna (Hopefully) use the TFS version of the Cell Game Reenactment in DBZ and Kai Recut?
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No.Scsigs wrote:Was it in the manga?simtek34 wrote:Are you gonna (Hopefully) use the TFS version of the Cell Game Reenactment in DBZ and Kai Recut?
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Even if it was in the manga, I'm pretty sure the Old Z dub would have been used for both DBZ and Kai Recut (assuming the old version is used for the Kai Blu-Rays instead of the TFS version) due to paradoxically being more faithful to the original than Kai's version was.TheUltimateNinja wrote:No.Scsigs wrote:Was it in the manga?simtek34 wrote:Are you gonna (Hopefully) use the TFS version of the Cell Game Reenactment in DBZ and Kai Recut?
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Kai didn't even use the TFS version, thankfully.Danfun64 wrote:Even if it was in the manga, I'm pretty sure the Old Z dub would have been used for both DBZ and Kai Recut (assuming the old version is used for the Kai Blu-Rays instead of the TFS version) due to paradoxically being more faithful to the original than Kai's version was.TheUltimateNinja wrote:No.Scsigs wrote:
Was it in the manga?