"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by Ki Breaker » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:19 pm

SansrivaaL wrote:
dragonballgeek wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote: Grand Priest having those villanious tendencies as a scam with matching it up with Goku's as well, I can imagine Grand Priest after this arc joking with Goku that it was hard acting like some evil commissioner just to amuse Zeno and go along with Goku's plan. Goku's calling to much heat on him its like he's doing everything on purpose to piss them off and come at him in full force, this screams Hit assassination arc all over again for me at least.
Wouldn't it be hilarious if Zeno was bluffing about the consequences? That Goku asked Zeno to come up with that threat in order to motivate everyone?

Not only would that explain why he's not caring, but people here would feel unbelievably stupid.
Thats what I was getting at with my prediction tho, everything is a scam that Goku,Grand Priest and Zeno decided.
That's what makes most sense right now anyways..
Goku straight up won't challenge the gods nor will he smile when called a villain..

If this indeed is the case, toie shouldn't have used the same thing for a filler arc, having the ending revealed in such a way isn't a good thing
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Post by dragonballgeek » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:21 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote:
dragonballgeek wrote:
Wouldn't it be hilarious if Zeno was bluffing about the consequences? That Goku asked Zeno to come up with that threat in order to motivate everyone?

Not only would that explain why he's not caring, but people here would feel unbelievably stupid.
Thats what I was getting at with my prediction tho, everything is a scam that Goku,Grand Priest and Zeno decided.
That's what makes most sense right now anyways..
Goku straight up won't challenge the gods nor will he smile when called a villain..

If this indeed is the case, toie shouldn't have used the same thing for a filler arc, having the ending revealed in such a way isn't a good thing
Yeah they should've saved it. If this happens, it would've been a lot less predictable if they just didn't have the filler.

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Post by SansrivaaL » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:22 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote:
dragonballgeek wrote:
Wouldn't it be hilarious if Zeno was bluffing about the consequences? That Goku asked Zeno to come up with that threat in order to motivate everyone?

Not only would that explain why he's not caring, but people here would feel unbelievably stupid.
Thats what I was getting at with my prediction tho, everything is a scam that Goku,Grand Priest and Zeno decided.
That's what makes most sense right now anyways..
Goku straight up won't challenge the gods nor will he smile when called a villain..

If this indeed is the case, toie shouldn't have used the same thing for a filler arc, having the ending revealed in such a way isn't a good thing
True, thats what got me pissed at the copy Vegeta arc then later enters Goku Black arc, basically the same thing but darker.

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Post by Bullza » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:26 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote:
dragonballgeek wrote:
Wouldn't it be hilarious if Zeno was bluffing about the consequences? That Goku asked Zeno to come up with that threat in order to motivate everyone?

Not only would that explain why he's not caring, but people here would feel unbelievably stupid.
Thats what I was getting at with my prediction tho, everything is a scam that Goku,Grand Priest and Zeno decided.
That's what makes most sense right now anyways..
Goku straight up won't challenge the gods nor will he smile when called a villain..

If this indeed is the case, toie shouldn't have used the same thing for a filler arc, having the ending revealed in such a way isn't a good thing
What are you guys referring to with this? What filler thing was the same thing?

Edit: Oh are you talking about what happened with Goku having Hit kill him?

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Post by Ki Breaker » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:34 pm

Bullza wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote: Thats what I was getting at with my prediction tho, everything is a scam that Goku,Grand Priest and Zeno decided.
That's what makes most sense right now anyways..
Goku straight up won't challenge the gods nor will he smile when called a villain..

If this indeed is the case, toie shouldn't have used the same thing for a filler arc, having the ending revealed in such a way isn't a good thing
What are you guys referring to with this? What filler thing was the same thing?

Edit: Oh are you talking about what happened with Goku having Hit kill him?
Yes, that's what we are referring to
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Post by SansrivaaL » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:37 pm

Bullza wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote: Thats what I was getting at with my prediction tho, everything is a scam that Goku,Grand Priest and Zeno decided.
That's what makes most sense right now anyways..
Goku straight up won't challenge the gods nor will he smile when called a villain..

If this indeed is the case, toie shouldn't have used the same thing for a filler arc, having the ending revealed in such a way isn't a good thing
What are you guys referring to with this? What filler thing was the same thing?

Edit: Oh are you talking about what happened with Goku having Hit kill him?
Yeah that, he had Whis and Vados help with his request to put a hit on him.
This time he had Grand Priest and Zeno help with his request to make everyone pissed at him by giving a huge stake and really making them believe it.
Having Grand Priest be the one raising awareness that its Goku's idea and how close he is with Zeno, while Goku in return shows he doesnt give 2 shits to what happens to anyone. Thats why he's fine being the one looked at as the evil one and thats why he didnt say anything regarding Bergamo's statement at him, he just gave a scowl and taunts every GoDs that "yeah, bring all your strong fighters, Ima kick all their asses"

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Post by Ki Breaker » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:39 pm

SansrivaaL wrote:
Bullza wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote: That's what makes most sense right now anyways..
Goku straight up won't challenge the gods nor will he smile when called a villain..

If this indeed is the case, toie shouldn't have used the same thing for a filler arc, having the ending revealed in such a way isn't a good thing
What are you guys referring to with this? What filler thing was the same thing?

Edit: Oh are you talking about what happened with Goku having Hit kill him?
Yeah that, he had Whis and Vados help with his request to put a hit on him.
This time he had Grand Priest and Zeno help with his request to make everyone pissed at him by giving a huge stake and really making them believe it.
Having Grand Priest be the one raising awareness that its Goku's idea and how close he is with Zeno, while Goku in return shows he doesnt give 2 shits to what happens to anyone. Thats why he's fine being the one looked at as the evil one and thats why he didnt say anything regarding Bergamo's statement at him, he just gave a scowl and taunts every GoDs that "yeah, bring all your strong fighters, Ima kick all their asses"
The more I am hearing this the more obvious it seems, I wish we had never thought of this :cry:
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Post by Bullza » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:40 pm

If they actually had no intention of destroying any universes though then why would four of them be omitted from taking part?

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Post by SansrivaaL » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:43 pm

Bullza wrote:If they actually had no intention of destroying any universes though then why would four of them be omitted from taking part?
Thats the one part I couldnt get, but I also thought knowing Goku... why didnt he react when it was said? I'm sure just about anyone here would think the same that its weird Goku didnt react like "what? but I want to fight all of them, shame...." but instead Goku was... calm, he didnt care, thats kinda OoC for me, thats not like him, unless they really did plan it all and theres a reason why Grand Priest and Zeno didnt like putting everyone and Goku just went along with it.

PS: It would be funny tho, if the reason for example is they didnt put them in because they didnt have strong warriors that can keep up with the others, that would backfire on them acting like a smug that "oh we're so high on top, we're top class"
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Post by Ki Breaker » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:44 pm

Bullza wrote:If they actually had no intention of destroying any universes though then why would four of them be omitted from taking part?
We don't know what the levels are based on yet, those saved gods were being asses and saying we are fully better we don't even need to check the ranks..
Maybe the those universes have the weakest fighters, far weaker to pose a challenge to goku in any sort and grand priest had them not participate to not have unnecessary fodder to fight goku..
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Post by Noah » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:50 pm

Well, it would nice if Goku set this all up with Zeno and the Grand Priest as it would explain his attitude, but I think they're going to a route where they can develop more Goku's character instead of him screwing with everyone again
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Post by SansrivaaL » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:53 pm

Noah wrote:Well, it would nice if Goku set this all up with Zeno and the Grand Priest as it would explain his attitude, but I think they're going to a route where they can develop more Goku's character instead of him screwing with everyone again
Because its too weird, too much of a change, why did he suddenly go from caring about his opponents to not giving a fck if they're killed now? unlike Chanpa, he's friends with Zeno, it'd be ok to ask him to remove the stakes, but instead he listens to Whis? when literally just 5mints ago he didnt give 2shits about their warnings, way too weird. It is all predictions tho :lol:

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Post by dragonballgeek » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:56 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote:
Bullza wrote:
What are you guys referring to with this? What filler thing was the same thing?

Edit: Oh are you talking about what happened with Goku having Hit kill him?
Yeah that, he had Whis and Vados help with his request to put a hit on him.
This time he had Grand Priest and Zeno help with his request to make everyone pissed at him by giving a huge stake and really making them believe it.
Having Grand Priest be the one raising awareness that its Goku's idea and how close he is with Zeno, while Goku in return shows he doesnt give 2 shits to what happens to anyone. Thats why he's fine being the one looked at as the evil one and thats why he didnt say anything regarding Bergamo's statement at him, he just gave a scowl and taunts every GoDs that "yeah, bring all your strong fighters, Ima kick all their asses"
The more I am hearing this the more obvious it seems, I wish we had never thought of this :cry:
I hate to say it but I had this idea when the arc was first announced. I got shot down pretty fast for making such outlandish claims.

Edited: I checked and it was back in December. Got my feelings hurt :cry:

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Post by Bullza » Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:13 pm

I don't know if I'd want it to be set up though. I'd prefer the idea that it was being done that way for some sinister hidden plan from the Grand Priest that would lead to him being the next main villain.

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Post by Ki Breaker » Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:15 pm

dragonballgeek wrote: I hate to say it but I had this idea when the arc was first announced. I got shot down pretty fast for making such outlandish claims.

Edited: I checked and it was back in December. Got my feelings hurt :cry:
Too bad the prize goes to us now :P :lol:
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Post by SansrivaaL » Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:16 pm

Bullza wrote:I don't know if I'd want it to be set up though. I'd prefer the idea that it was being done that way for some sinister hidden plan from the Grand Priest that would lead to him being the next main villain.
Thats still a possibility, what I'm only getting at anyways is why Goku's been so nonchalant throughout this arc (because he planned it), a double twist is very possible, if Black arc could do it, then this arc can as well.

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Post by Ki Breaker » Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:23 pm

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Bullza wrote:I don't know if I'd want it to be set up though. I'd prefer the idea that it was being done that way for some sinister hidden plan from the Grand Priest that would lead to him being the next main villain.
Thats still a possibility, what I'm only getting at anyways is why Goku's been so nonchalant throughout this arc (because he planned it), a double twist is very possible, if Black arc could do it, then this arc can as well.
How would it be if goku did plan it but zeno destroyed the universes in real by mistake, you know enjoying it so much he forgot :lol:
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:24 pm

Wait wait wait, when Bergamo was talking to Zen-Oh and proposed the proposal, Zen-Oh said he would accept but then Grand Priest was the one who said Zen-Oh would erase immediate if Goku held back but... how? He asked what Zen-Oh's answer was Zen-Oh gave and that was it, they did not talk again and then all of a sudden Grand Priest is like "Oh Zen-Oh will erase everything if you hold back". This is just off man he is too suspicious, only other possibility is he can read minds.

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Post by SansrivaaL » Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:28 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote:
Bullza wrote:I don't know if I'd want it to be set up though. I'd prefer the idea that it was being done that way for some sinister hidden plan from the Grand Priest that would lead to him being the next main villain.
Thats still a possibility, what I'm only getting at anyways is why Goku's been so nonchalant throughout this arc (because he planned it), a double twist is very possible, if Black arc could do it, then this arc can as well.
How would it be if goku did plan it but zeno destroyed the universes in real by mistake, you know enjoying it so much he forgot :lol:
Well they're fcked haha, but theres still the super balls tho. If the prediction turns out right theres bound to be a twist, theres a reason why the super dragon balls are there, unless they use it for a petty reason like give us enough food for everyone else like in xenoverse.

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Post by Ki Breaker » Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:29 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Wait wait wait, when Bergamo was talking to Zen-Oh and proposed the proposal, Zen-Oh said he would accept but then Grand Priest was the one who said Zen-Oh would erase immediate if Goku held back but... how? He asked what Zen-Oh's answer was Zen-Oh gave and that was it, they did not talk again and then all of a sudden Grand Priest is like "Oh Zen-Oh will erase everything if you hold back". This is just off man he is too suspicious, only other possibility is he can read minds.
Two possibilities,
first grand priest is putting words in Zeno's Mouth, and is the mastermind

Second, they know nothing is going to be destroyed and are with goku, just to not be completely douchebags they accept Bergamo's proposal because they know goku can beat him, to make sure he does beat him too priest pulls out that rule
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