Brutz Waves

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Fri May 14, 2004 2:10 am

I've always seen it as a pun on 'brute' since it makes them into giant brutes.

Alias · Post by **Alias** » Fri May 14, 2004 5:50 am

Lessee... There's the more likely pun of Brute, or the more interesting one of Butt... I go with the latter.

There's further proof of it being a pun on Butt! The Brutz waves were used to make Vegeta go SSJ4. When Goku achieved SSJ4, there was a nude collage of him, clearing showing his tanned bottom. There's your connection! Brutz Waves=SSJ4. SSJ4=barenaked butt.

It's really very easy to figure out, you know.

Zackarotto · Post by **Zackarotto** » Fri May 14, 2004 1:31 pm

Ben Plante wrote:Toriyama shoulda just called them Lunar Waves and been done with it. But, that's out Tori for ya.

Agreed. ^^

Ben Plante · Post by **Ben Plante** » Fri May 14, 2004 3:11 pm

Ben Plante wrote:
Toriyama shoulda just called them Lunar Waves and been done with it. But, that's out Tori for ya.
Agreed. ^^

But then, of course, someone, somewhere, would be sitting here going "Lunar... Luna... Lun... Luhn... Lun...ch... LUNCH! AHA, another food pun! That crazy Tori!

Ben Plante · Post by **Ben Plante** » Fri May 14, 2004 9:01 pm

Also... what the hell is a 'Xeno'? Yeah, 17 million Brutz waves, but... why is it called a Xeno? Isn't the definition of Xeno something along the lines of differing cultures or some such?

Daimao · Post by **Daimao** » Fri May 14, 2004 9:03 pm

TripleRach wrote:I just recently noticed the resemblance between "buruutsu" and "furuutsu". Only a dakuten of difference! Maybe that was Toriyama's intended pun, since there were no Tsufuru-jin in the manga.

That's the way I always took it. Hence my choice of "Bruits Waves."

There's a "Bruits Fasket" joke somewhere in there that I'm not going to make. Especially since Ritsu Sohma isn't much of a character, despite being the Monkey.

Ben Plante · Post by **Ben Plante** » Fri May 14, 2004 9:10 pm

YES! YES! DAIMAO SAYS, THUS IT IS SO! IT'S A PUN ON FRUIT, NOT BRUTE!

Okay, he's not 100% canon... but close enough.

Thanks Steve. You rock the house, homey G yo snap. Or whatever.

And hey, I have since changed to saying Puerh. I was the one who mailed VegeEX, who then mailed you, saying I insisted it was Puer. I was unaware of the unfortunate definition of Puer. YOU WIN!

Ben Plante · Post by **Ben Plante** » Fri May 14, 2004 9:14 pm

Hey, Steve... have ANY of these avatars of yours been your real face?

Shitou, double-posted again, shoulda just editted. I'll try harder to remember.

Post by **SaiyaJedi** » Fri May 14, 2004 9:46 pm

Ben Plante wrote:YES! YES! DAIMAO SAYS, THUS IT IS SO! IT'S A PUN ON FRUIT, NOT BRUTE!

Okay, he's not 100% canon... but close enough.

Thanks Steve. You rock the house, homey G yo snap. Or whatever.

And hey, I have since changed to saying Puerh. I was the one who mailed VegeEX, who then mailed you, saying I insisted it was Puer. I was unaware of the unfortunate definition of Puer. YOU WIN!

Jeez... it's only a difference between romanization systems...

In the old Wade-Giles system, it's "P'u-erh;" in Pinyin (the official romanization used by the Chinese government), it's "Pu'er"... so really, both of your spellings are wrong. (But then again, that's just like us lazy English-speakers to neglect hyphens, apostrophes, and other diacritical marks...)

Ben Plante · Post by **Ben Plante** » Fri May 14, 2004 10:06 pm

::Reads Julians's post 8 times, then finally comprehends it::

Oh, I get it. Well, I just like Puerh now.

God damn it's hot tonight.

Zackarotto · Post by **Zackarotto** » Fri May 14, 2004 10:55 pm

Ben Plante wrote:Isn't the definition of Xeno something along the lines of differing cultures or some such?

Isn't that "Geno"? "Xeno" is bigger. For example, I think if every human were to die, that would be "Xenocide". I suck at giving definitions, so... I'll leave it for somebody else.

Post by **TripleRach** » Sat May 15, 2004 2:33 am

It never occured to me that Zeno could be interpreted as Xeno, but looking up the definition of Xeno, I don't see much relevance. But I'll also leave it for someone else.

Ben Plante · Post by **Ben Plante** » Sat May 15, 2004 3:45 am

It might be Zeno, I kinda just assumed he said Xeno.

Zackarotto · Post by **Zackarotto** » Sat May 15, 2004 12:48 pm

Yeah, must be Zeno. That makes more sense...

Ben Plante · Post by **Ben Plante** » Sat May 15, 2004 3:40 pm

Vegeta would've said Zeno because he doesn't like Xeno. See, he's scared of Xeno. He's a Xenophobe! He doesn't like non-Saiyans!

...

Laugh, damn you! That's a double-pun, you didn't think of it!

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Sat May 15, 2004 8:42 pm

SaiyaJedi wrote:In the old Wade-Giles system, it's "P'u-erh;" in Pinyin (the official romanization used by the Chinese government), it's "Pu'er"... so really, both of your spellings are wrong. (But then again, that's just like us lazy English-speakers to neglect hyphens, apostrophes, and other diacritical marks...)

Any idea why FUNi AND Viz both go with "Pu'ar"? I know that FUNi gets the names wrong somtimes, but it's strange that Viz would use the same version. Unless they decided to keep it similar for convenience (like they seem to have with "Yamcha").

BTW, I was playing Budokai today, and they're called "Brutes waves" there. Of course, their translations are all over the place.

Post by **SaiyaJedi** » Sat May 15, 2004 11:27 pm

PsyLiam wrote:Any idea why FUNi AND Viz both go with "Pu'ar"? I know that FUNi gets the names wrong somtimes, but it's strange that Viz would use the same version. Unless they decided to keep it similar for convenience (like they seem to have with "Yamcha").

"Yamcha" is Cantonese, though, so it's a legitimate spelling.

As for the "Puar" thing, it's probably to get the pronunciation of the "er" syllable across better... it doesn't sound like the English "ah" (in Britain and Australia) or "urr" (in Canada and the US) that we usually associate with it; rather, it sounds more like a pirate "arr." So that's probably why they changed the spelling, even though it ruins the pun a tad.

Daimao · Post by **Daimao** » Wed May 19, 2004 12:43 pm

Ben Plante wrote:Hey, Steve... have ANY of these avatars of yours been your real face?

While none of them is actually me, each one of them is Steve Simmons. (Not including that horrible mugshot that I'm not using any longer).

Saiyajedi wrote:In the old Wade-Giles system, it's "P'u-erh;" in Pinyin (the official romanization used by the Chinese government), it's "Pu'er"... so really, both of your spellings are wrong. (But then again, that's just like us lazy English-speakers to neglect hyphens, apostrophes, and other diacritical marks...)

True, true. Then again, you're just asking for it trying to romanize anything out of Chinese, with it's multiple dialects. Not to mention that Pinyin has only been around since 1958, while Wade-Giles goes back to 1859, so it also matters when the word entered the English lexicon. Pinyin has been the standard internationally for over twenty years though.

As for the Zeno/Xeno/Geno thing, you've got me. I thought it might be named for the Greek philosopher that discovered that moonlight is reflected sunlight, but that was Anaxagoras, not Zeno (though they were contemporaries).

snen · Post by **snen** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 8:46 am

Jerseymilk wrote:That's funny Blue Waters calls them "Blutz" because that's what the French dub calls them too.

I think that Ocean Dub translates their script from the French Dub and not the original Japanese, so that could be it. Don't quote me on this though ^^;

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Sun Jun 13, 2004 12:53 am

I won't because they don't. The French dub is quite possibly the only dub worse than Funi's. Why bother to make a comparison if KNOW that you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about?

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