Goku's Kamehameha in this scenario is just barely stronger than Freeza's regular power level, so Freeza would still hold a massive advantage.TheUltimateNinja wrote:He can fight from a distance and use the Kamehameha to deal heavy damage.DanielSSJ wrote:Yeah, but only for amped-up Ki attacks like the Kamehameha. His normal level is 416.TheUltimateNinja wrote:Goku was capable of putting out a power level of nearly 1,000 against Raditz.
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It would be ~145,000,000 which is considerably above Freeza.DanielSSJ wrote:Goku's Kamehameha in this scenario is just barely stronger than Freeza's regular power level, so Freeza would still hold a massive advantage.TheUltimateNinja wrote:He can fight from a distance and use the Kamehameha to deal heavy damage.DanielSSJ wrote: Yeah, but only for amped-up Ki attacks like the Kamehameha. His normal level is 416.
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That would be slightly weaker than Freeza's fullpower.TheUltimateNinja wrote:It would be ~145,000,000 which is considerably above Freeza.DanielSSJ wrote:Goku's Kamehameha in this scenario is just barely stronger than Freeza's regular power level, so Freeza would still hold a massive advantage.TheUltimateNinja wrote: He can fight from a distance and use the Kamehameha to deal heavy damage.
Anyway, new battle.
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Well, actually Frieza's full power is 120,000,000. 145,000,000 is higher than Frieza's. Frieza can probably dodge the kamehameha, although it's unlikely since he doesn't have a scouter like Raditz.Gog wrote:That would be slightly weaker than Freeza's fullpower.TheUltimateNinja wrote:It would be ~145,000,000 which is considerably above Freeza.DanielSSJ wrote: Goku's Kamehameha in this scenario is just barely stronger than Freeza's regular power level, so Freeza would still hold a massive advantage.
Anyway, new battle.
Super Buu (SS3 Goku adsorbed) V Ultimate Gohan
Anyway. I think Gohan would still be above Super Buu, considering that SSJ3 Goku was a lot weaker than SSJ3 Gotenks. Maybe Buu might have an advantage due to regeneration, but Gohan would still have the necessary power to defeat him, even though it's going to be a tougher fight.
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A power-level of 120M is just far to low for his performance against Goku on Namek, especially considering a 10% difference in strength enables you to crush your opponent. I'd put him around 149M or 147M.dragonball0900 wrote:Well, actually Frieza's full power is 120,000,000. 145,000,000 is higher than Frieza's. Frieza can probably dodge the kamehameha, although it's unlikely since he doesn't have a scouter like Raditz.Gog wrote:That would be slightly weaker than Freeza's fullpower.TheUltimateNinja wrote: It would be ~145,000,000 which is considerably above Freeza.
Anyway, new battle.
Super Buu (SS3 Goku adsorbed) V Ultimate Gohan
Anyway. I think Gohan would still be above Super Buu, considering that SSJ3 Goku was a lot weaker than SSJ3 Gotenks. Maybe Buu might have an advantage due to regeneration, but Gohan would still have the necessary power to defeat him, even though it's going to be a tougher fight.
Actually, wouldn't Buu have Goku's superior skill and moves?
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unless your using the anime right here, because the figth in the manga didn't lasted that long so I would his 100,% at 130M or around in 140M,I don't see him that close to Super Saiyan GokuGog wrote:
A power-level of 120M is just far to low for his performance against Goku on Namek, especially considering a 10% difference in strength enables you to crush your opponent. I'd put him around 149M or 147M.
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What do you mean? The fight lasted for 2 minutes, all the while Freeza's power was continually dropping, and not once was he out matched against SSJ Goku, until after he sped off after Poruanga. 149M or 148M is most likely where Freeza resides power wise.The gr wrote:unless your using the anime right here, because the figth in the manga didn't lasted that long so I would his 100,% at 130M or around in 140M,I don't see him that close to Super Saiyan GokuGog wrote:
A power-level of 120M is just far to low for his performance against Goku on Namek, especially considering a 10% difference in strength enables you to crush your opponent. I'd put him around 149M or 147M.
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DBS tien vs captain Ginyu, and I want reason who will win these figths
Ultimate Gohan defeats SS3 Gotenks easily, as he is not only stronger, but more skilled.
Krillin crushes Recome with sheer power and skill.
Tien crushes Ginyu, with power and skill.
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just re read the manga,now I remembered it perfectly, basically 100% frieza spear through a full power Kamehameha,by that I would at least put him at 149MGog wrote:What do you mean? The fight lasted for 2 minutes, all the while Freeza's power was continually dropping, and not once was he out matched against SSJ Goku, until after he sped off after Poruanga. 149M or 148M is most likely where Freeza resides power wise.The gr wrote:unless your using the anime right here, because the figth in the manga didn't lasted that long so I would his 100,% at 130M or around in 140M,I don't see him that close to Super Saiyan GokuGog wrote:
A power-level of 120M is just far to low for his performance against Goku on Namek, especially considering a 10% difference in strength enables you to crush your opponent. I'd put him around 149M or 147M.
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Krillin crushes Recome with sheer power and skill.
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In the manga, the difference was higher. Goku wasn't even trying against Frieza. Goku even said he was dissapointed by him. If Goku tried it a bit more, the battle would have gone more like Vegeta vs Monster Zarbon (first fight), since that also has a 1.25 of difference like the Frieza battle.Gog wrote: A power-level of 120M is just far to low for his performance against Goku on Namek, especially considering a 10% difference in strength enables you to crush your opponent. I'd put him around 149M or 147M.
Actually, wouldn't Buu have Goku's superior skill and moves?
Well, I do believe Gohan is still superior in power. But the battle would be tougher for him. It could go any way to be honest, but I just think Gohan takes this after a long fight.
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What indicates that Goku wasn't trying against Freeza? And Goku never said that he was disappointed with Freeza, he quit fighting because Freeza's power had dropped too low for Goku to see a point in continuing.
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Why wouldn't Goku have tried against Freeza? That makes no sense especially considering that the battle not only lasted for two minutes, but Freeza once out ran Goku to Porunga and was capable of standing up to his Kamehameha. Those feats would not be possible if Freeza had a 1.25 difference in strength between him and Goku.dragonball0900 wrote:In the manga, the difference was higher. Goku wasn't even trying against Frieza. Goku even said he was dissapointed by him. If Goku tried it a bit more, the battle would have gone more like Vegeta vs Monster Zarbon (first fight), since that also has a 1.25 of difference like the Frieza battle.Gog wrote: A power-level of 120M is just far to low for his performance against Goku on Namek, especially considering a 10% difference in strength enables you to crush your opponent. I'd put him around 149M or 147M.
Actually, wouldn't Buu have Goku's superior skill and moves?
Well, I do believe Gohan is still superior in power. But the battle would be tougher for him. It could go any way to be honest, but I just think Gohan takes this after a long fight.
Also Goku only stopped fighting against Freeza, when his power dropped too low and besides the point, Goku told him after his battle to polish your moves and fix your stamina issues. Absolutely no mention of strength.
Anyway
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Freeza didn't go through the Kamehameha at all, he moved to the side.The gr wrote:just re read the manga,now I remembered it perfectly, basically 100% frieza spear through a full power Kamehameha,by that I would at least put him at 149MI got a good one, skinny basil no kicking vs lavenda no poison
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Super Boo easily. Goku trade blows with Janemba(he lost of course), while with Boo he didn't even consider to try.Noah wrote:
But, I have my doubts who's stronger:
Super Janemba vs. Super Boo
GT wasn't that bad
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Movie Goku is stronger than Buuhan.RehBeh wrote:Super Boo easily. Goku trade blows with Janemba(he lost of course), while with Boo he didn't even consider to try.Noah wrote:
But, I have my doubts who's stronger:
Super Janemba vs. Super Boo
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What?TheUltimateNinja wrote:Movie Goku is stronger than Buuhan.RehBeh wrote:Super Boo easily. Goku trade blows with Janemba(he lost of course), while with Boo he didn't even consider to try.Noah wrote:
But, I have my doubts who's stronger:
Super Janemba vs. Super Boo
GT wasn't that bad
DBZ Macky wrote:And Zamasu thought he had it bad. Fuckin' edgy Kaios thinking about "Justice" and shit just because they got strong by chance.RehBeh wrote:He must feel awful. Being a God and no one respects him. Just sad.ekrolo2 wrote: He is, its just that no one holds him in high esteem, even in-universe.
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In both the anime and the movies, SSJ3 Goku => Kid Buu > BuuhanRehBeh wrote:What?TheUltimateNinja wrote:Movie Goku is stronger than Buuhan.RehBeh wrote:
Super Boo easily. Goku trade blows with Janemba(he lost of course), while with Boo he didn't even consider to try.
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Goku explodes from the kaioken so hard that the entire solar system is annihilated alongwith the explosion, leaving freeza knocked out clean, with his tail gone, and severe burns on his skin. However, Freeza being freeza, he survives this and takes the win.TheUltimateNinja wrote:Kaioken x15,000,000 Kid Goku vs Namek Freeza
Super buu actually turns out to be more powerful than gohan, along with better skill, smarts, regeneration etc.Gog wrote: Anyway, new battle.
Super Buu (SS3 Goku adsorbed) V Ultimate Gohan
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I think you overestimate Freeza here.apex_pretador wrote:Goku explodes from the kaioken so hard that the entire solar system is annihilated alongwith the explosion, leaving freeza knocked out clean, with his tail gone, and severe burns on his skin. However, Freeza being freeza, he survives thisTheUltimateNinja wrote:Kaioken x15,000,000 Kid Goku vs Namek Freeza
GT wasn't that bad
DBZ Macky wrote:And Zamasu thought he had it bad. Fuckin' edgy Kaios thinking about "Justice" and shit just because they got strong by chance.RehBeh wrote:He must feel awful. Being a God and no one respects him. Just sad.ekrolo2 wrote: He is, its just that no one holds him in high esteem, even in-universe.
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That's just a contradiction in the manga, the source material. In fact it's the only one where fans use it as evidence, while any other they quickly dismiss it.TheUltimateNinja wrote:In both the anime and the movies, SSJ3 Goku => Kid Buu > BuuhanRehBeh wrote:What?TheUltimateNinja wrote: Movie Goku is stronger than Buuhan.
GT wasn't that bad
DBZ Macky wrote:And Zamasu thought he had it bad. Fuckin' edgy Kaios thinking about "Justice" and shit just because they got strong by chance.RehBeh wrote:He must feel awful. Being a God and no one respects him. Just sad.ekrolo2 wrote: He is, its just that no one holds him in high esteem, even in-universe.
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Bs goku was getting stomped by buutenks and buuhan in the anime no way in hell he's stronger than buuhan.TheUltimateNinja wrote:In both the anime and the movies, SSJ3 Goku => Kid Buu > BuuhanRehBeh wrote:What?TheUltimateNinja wrote: Movie Goku is stronger than Buuhan.


