"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Chuquita]

I kinda want to see Krillin be the last remaining fighter in bounds if we're going for surprise finishes.

[precita]

Given all the hype 17 is getting no way won't he have some major role or fight. I also think Gohan and Krillin's return to fighting and all the episodes they've been getting is leading to something.

My guess is Tenshinhan, Roshi, and Piccolo are going to get the short end of the stick here, maybe 18 too, but who knows. You can tell some characters are being hyped more than others. There's almost no major foreshadowing between Roshi or Tien doing anything special, and Piccolo could go either way.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

FUNi's website keeps changing the episode count, first they listed Super as 75 eps, then when their sire relaunched they changed it to 83, now #84 has aired they have changed it to 96 eps. So weird.

[ArchedThunder]

FUNi's website keeps changing the episode count, first they listed Super as 75 eps, then when their sire relaunched they changed it to 83, now #84 has aired they have changed it to 96 eps. So weird.

Why not just change it to "On going" or something like that?

[Baggie_Saiyan]

FUNi's website keeps changing the episode count, first they listed Super as 75 eps, then when their sire relaunched they changed it to 83, now #84 has aired they have changed it to 96 eps. So weird.

Why not just change it to "On going" or something like that?

Yeah I don't know it is super weird (no pun intended) especially since these are random numbers too.

[Araki]

FUNi's website keeps changing the episode count, first they listed Super as 75 eps, then when their sire relaunched they changed it to 83, now #84 has aired they have changed it to 96 eps. So weird.

Why not just change it to "On going" or something like that?

Yeah I don't know it is super weird (no pun intended) especially since these are random numbers too.

Well, it's not totally random. They updated to 96 because a new cour just started, so they added 13 episodes to the count.
But yeah, they should just go with "ongoing".

[ArchedThunder]

FUNi's website keeps changing the episode count, first they listed Super as 75 eps, then when their sire relaunched they changed it to 83, now #84 has aired they have changed it to 96 eps. So weird.

Why not just change it to "On going" or something like that?

Yeah I don't know it is super weird (no pun intended) especially since these are random numbers too.

Well episode 83 was the end of the last cour and 96 (assuming there are no breaks) will be the end of this cour, so it's not really random.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Well episode 83 was the end of the last cour and 96 (assuming there are no breaks) will be the end of this cour, so it's not really random.

Well, it's not totally random. They updated to 96 because a new cour just started, so they added 13 episodes to the count.
But yeah, they should just go with "ongoing".

Well that clears that up! Makes a lot more sense now! But yeah ongoing or in production like Toei have put would be more ideal.

[kinisking]

I think people misunderstood the fights or maybe I did.

Gohan underestimated Killin. He was thinking about power levels and not tournament rules. Gohan is not a dumb fighter but it's been proven that when he looks down on his opponents, he makes mistakes that cost him.

Goku is still thinking 1v1s, not teamwork. It's usually someone distracting a villain and the other charges an attack to kill him. That's why 18 said this is not a fight, it's a battle royale. Anyone can jump you when you are fighting someone else.

I really hope they stick with this. They are beating this into our heads.

Perfect worded. It makes sense for both characters. Goku and Krillin are used to 1v1 tournaments so battle royales didn't pop up in their heads . Gohan is used to life or death battles so he wasnt thinking about tournament rules . People can say this makes Gohan a bad fighter, but I guarantee he'll be a tactical fighter in the tournament.

[Kagari]

I think people misunderstood the fights or maybe I did.

Gohan underestimated Killin. He was thinking about power levels and not tournament rules. Gohan is not a dumb fighter but it's been proven that when he looks down on his opponents, he makes mistakes that cost him.

Goku is still thinking 1v1s, not teamwork. It's usually someone distracting a villain and the other charges an attack to kill him. That's why 18 said this is not a fight, it's a battle royale. Anyone can jump you when you are fighting someone else.

I really hope they stick with this. They are beating this into our heads.

Perfect worded. It makes sense for both characters. Goku and Krillin are used to 1v1 tournaments so battle royales didn't pop up in their heads . Gohan is used to life or death battles so he wasnt thinking about tournament rules . People can say this makes Gohan a bad fighter, but I guarantee he'll be a tactical fighter in the tournament.

The build-up seems very deliberate. I can't see them pulling a bait and switch on us now.

[pacz360]

I think people misunderstood the fights or maybe I did.

Gohan underestimated Killin. He was thinking about power levels and not tournament rules. Gohan is not a dumb fighter but it's been proven that when he looks down on his opponents, he makes mistakes that cost him.

Goku is still thinking 1v1s, not teamwork. It's usually someone distracting a villain and the other charges an attack to kill him. That's why 18 said this is not a fight, it's a battle royale. Anyone can jump you when you are fighting someone else.

I really hope they stick with this. They are beating this into our heads.

Perfect worded. It makes sense for both characters. Goku and Krillin are used to 1v1 tournaments so battle royales didn't pop up in their heads . Gohan is used to life or death battles so he wasnt thinking about tournament rules . People can say this makes Gohan a bad fighter, but I guarantee he'll be a tactical fighter in the tournament.

Gohan not really a bad fighter given his fight with lavender. Not great but not bad as people trying to make him out to be.

[kinisking]

I think people misunderstood the fights or maybe I did.

Gohan underestimated Killin. He was thinking about power levels and not tournament rules. Gohan is not a dumb fighter but it's been proven that when he looks down on his opponents, he makes mistakes that cost him.

Goku is still thinking 1v1s, not teamwork. It's usually someone distracting a villain and the other charges an attack to kill him. That's why 18 said this is not a fight, it's a battle royale. Anyone can jump you when you are fighting someone else.

I really hope they stick with this. They are beating this into our heads.

Perfect worded. It makes sense for both characters. Goku and Krillin are used to 1v1 tournaments so battle royales didn't pop up in their heads . Gohan is used to life or death battles so he wasnt thinking about tournament rules . People can say this makes Gohan a bad fighter, but I guarantee he'll be a tactical fighter in the tournament.

Gohan not really a bad fighter given his fight with lavender. Not great but not bad as people trying to make him out to be.

It's because people use it as a way to make themselves feel better about him having higher potential than the others. "Oh well, at least he's a worse fighter than the others" is a way to make them feel better and some take it too far. Is Gohan a less skilled fighter than Piccolo, Vegeta, Krillin , Goku and Roshi. Sure. Is he much less skilled ? No. If he was, then he wouldn't be in the team just like Goten and Trunks.

[Beyond]

Some of the fighters have these crazy shortcoming when it comes to fighting. Goku let's his guard down too much, Vegeta lets his ego get in the way, Gohan underestimates the situation, Piccolo talks too much, Buu never starts serious(more so than Goku).

[kinisking]

Some of the fighters have these crazy shortcoming when it comes to fighting. Goku let's his guard down too much, Vegeta lets his ego get in the way, Gohan underestimates the situation, Piccolo talks too much, Buu never starts serious(more so than Goku).

The weird thing is, that they seemed to be getting rid of that trait with Gohan in Rof. Both the movie and the arc had him take the situation with Tagoma or shisami seriously. In Rof he even states that he wants to be careful. I'm not sure if they're regressing the character or if this was a special situation because it was a friendly match.

When has piccolo talking to much got in the way of success ?

[Beyond]

Some of the fighters have these crazy shortcoming when it comes to fighting. Goku let's his guard down too much, Vegeta lets his ego get in the way, Gohan underestimates the situation, Piccolo talks too much, Buu never starts serious(more so than Goku).

The weird thing is, that they seemed to be getting rid of that trait with Gohan in Rof. Both the movie and the arc had him take the situation with Tagoma or shisami seriously. In Rof he even states that he wants to be careful. I'm not sure if they're regressing the character or if this was a special situation because it was a friendly match.

When has piccolo talking to much got in the way of success ?

We'll find out soon.

Gero(he was talking smack instead of blowing him up right away) , and Frost(if he had blasted him the second he grabbed him he would have won) are the big examples. Cell gets a pass since he actually had a reason that time.

[TheMathemagician]

Perfect worded. It makes sense for both characters. Goku and Krillin are used to 1v1 tournaments so battle royales didn't pop up in their heads . Gohan is used to life or death battles so he wasnt thinking about tournament rules . People can say this makes Gohan a bad fighter, but I guarantee he'll be a tactical fighter in the tournament.

Gohan not really a bad fighter given his fight with lavender. Not great but not bad as people trying to make him out to be.

It's because people use it as a way to make themselves feel better about him having higher potential than the others. "Oh well, at least he's a worse fighter than the others" is a way to make them feel better and some take it too far. Is Gohan a less skilled fighter than Piccolo, Vegeta, Krillin , Goku and Roshi. Sure. Is he much less skilled ? No. If he was, then he wouldn't be in the team just like Goten and Trunks.

I'd argue he's much less skilled than them but is still skilled enough to hold his own. I wouldn't call him mediocre at all, but I certainly wouldn't put him in the same league as Goku, Kuririn, Piccolo, Roshi, Vegeta, and Tenshinhan.

[Ki Breaker]

I kinda want to see Krillin be the last remaining fighter in bounds if we're going for surprise finishes.

So only one survives and it's Krillin..
If thats what they are going for I wouldn't mind seeing him cut the floor with destructo disk take down the last opponent who beat goku, making him the winner

[RehBeh]

On that topic why do people think a fan fiction writer has more credibility than professional script writers? I genuinely don''t understand.

Because you are a script writer doesn't mean that what you write is good. And there are some good fan-fiction writers, heck there's one in the site too.

While very true the opposite can be true for fan fic writers just because someone is good at writing fan fic doesn't necessarily mean they'd be great when writing in a professional capacity. Big reason is Fan fiction writers have complete creative control on what they write/draw and this is gone the moment they turn professional. For example the the chap who is doing the Yamcha spin off, he tweeted that quite bit of his work ended up being rejected, the control he has isn't there and thus his true skills has a writer/drawer are being tested.

Agree.

ekrolo2

[Kanassa]

The weird thing is, that they seemed to be getting rid of that trait with Gohan in Rof. Both the movie and the arc had him take the situation with Tagoma or shisami seriously. In Rof he even states that he wants to be careful. I'm not sure if they're regressing the character or if this was a special situation because it was a friendly match.

After twice now losing the people he loves because of his cockyness, it kind of makes sense that he'd take the situation seriously by now.

[Simere]

Perfect worded. It makes sense for both characters. Goku and Krillin are used to 1v1 tournaments so battle royales didn't pop up in their heads . Gohan is used to life or death battles so he wasnt thinking about tournament rules . People can say this makes Gohan a bad fighter, but I guarantee he'll be a tactical fighter in the tournament.

Gohan not really a bad fighter given his fight with lavender. Not great but not bad as people trying to make him out to be.

It's because people use it as a way to make themselves feel better about him having higher potential than the others. "Oh well, at least he's a worse fighter than the others" is a way to make them feel better and some take it too far. Is Gohan a less skilled fighter than Piccolo, Vegeta, Krillin , Goku and Roshi. Sure. Is he much less skilled ? No. If he was, then he wouldn't be in the team just like Goten and Trunks.

Similarly, this is what Tien and Piccolo fans do but in reverse. "They're more skilled fighters, it's just that they don't have the plot power to keep up. If tactics mattered they would win"