Is the Buu Saga the most well animated?

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Re: Is the Buu Saga the most well animated?

Post by JulieYBM » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:36 am

Trickster wrote:
JulieYBM wrote: I'm becoming increasingly convinced that the only reason this scene was any good was because it was storyboarded and directed by Yama'uchi Shigeyasu, one of the best Toei alumni. Yamamuro's never done anything nearly as good and has continued to show that he learned nothing from Yama'uchi, despite having worked with him on multiple projects.

Hell, for all we know this isn't actually Yamamuro's key animation, just something he heavily corrected.
What jobs did Yamauchi Shigeyasu do, in DB franchise, as animator?[/quote]

Yama'uchi Shigeyasu was just a storyboard artist and director (you can read what works he did on the Kanzenshuu site proper). Yama'uchi was one of the better storyboard artists (well, the best storyboard artist) for the original run of episodes and films. Given his position as director of Movie #8, #10, #12 and the Tenth Anniversary film (and Supervisor for the other films from this era), as well as being the director of many important episodes of the Majin Buu arc (#232 and #279), there's a possibility that he was the series director of Episodes #200-291 without taking credit, too. In the years following Dragon Ball his skills grew and he's become a big name director among fans and those within the industry. Casshern Sins is probably his most important work, considering he storyboarded ten of its 24 episodes and personally directed seven of them. He was also involved with Ojamajo Doremi, one of Toei Animation's best and biggest all-star staff series.
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Re: Is the Buu Saga the most well animated?

Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:23 pm

As for the majority of the Buu saga fights, they did look good. Excluding the SS3 Gotenks stuff, most of them at least had noticeable choreography in the sequences of the hits, as opposed to just the prior flailing punches and kicks the series is more known for prior.
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However, when kid buu did it those rapid beat-down scenes, it looked fluid and hits directly connected.
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..As opposed to the "multi-fist flurry trick" used in Super which I absolutely loathe. It's messy, it's clumsy and it looks comedic.
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Re: Is the Buu Saga the most well animated?

Post by HybridSaiyan » Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:39 pm

Buu saga for the most part had incredible art and animation. It's such a downer we won't ever seen anything of the sort again in modern Dragon ball.

It's just crisp and beauty. It sparkles when I look at it lmao.

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Also, movies 10,11,12,13 were Dragon Ball animation at its very best.

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Re: Is the Buu Saga the most well animated?

Post by Dai-Saiyajin » Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:31 pm

Majin Buu saga is definitely the best in art and animation, with GT coming in second. But during this time the anime have a much better schedule and also some top studios like Studio Cockpit, Studio Carpenter and K-Production joined the series, working alongside Last House, Studio Live , Seigasha and Shindo Production. They have 7 studios rotating, while in Freeza and Cell sagas it have only 5 studios. sorry for the poor english

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Re: Is the Buu Saga the most well animated?

Post by Trickster » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:38 am

Dai-Saiyajin wrote:sorry for the poor english
Where are you from, man?
Sorry for bad english. I'm not fluent in your language, so, if you want to correct some mistake of mine, please do it. I'll be grateful

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Re: Is the Buu Saga the most well animated?

Post by Dai-Saiyajin » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:16 am

Trickster wrote:
Dai-Saiyajin wrote:sorry for the poor english
Where are you from, man?
I'm from Brazil, never really learned english, mostly that I know is self-taught.

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Re: Is the Buu Saga the most well animated?

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:06 pm

Dai-Saiyajin wrote:
Trickster wrote:
Dai-Saiyajin wrote:sorry for the poor english
Where are you from, man?
I'm from Brazil, never really learned english, mostly that I know is self-taught.
You communicate perfectly fine, don't bother yourself about it.
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Re: Is the Buu Saga the most well animated?

Post by KorgDTR2000 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:17 pm

The movies from this era are what I go to when I want to watch some DBZ animation porn. So epic.

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Re: Is the Buu Saga the most well animated?

Post by Trickster » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:26 am

Dai-Saiyajin wrote:I'm from Brazil, never really learned english, mostly that I know is self-taught.
Então é nóis, mano. Aqui é Brasil também. Eu tenho um grupo, no FB, sobre DB, onde a gente tenta fazer tipo um Kanzenshuu (só que, obviamente, em uma escala muito menor). Se quiser conhecer, dá um alô.
KorgDTR2000 wrote:The movies from this era are what I go to when I want to watch some DBZ animation porn. So epic.
I love all the movies, but those, specially, have wonderful animation. Tadayoshi Yamamuro was on his best.
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Re: Is the Buu Saga the most well animated?

Post by ekrolo2 » Sat Apr 08, 2017 10:29 am

This is when the anime and manga were worlds apart, Toriyama's art has some highlights here but it is visibly apparent he's running on fumes by this point in the series. The anime staff had their low points too but when it looked good, which was fairly often, it totally blew the manga away.
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Re: Is the Buu Saga the most well animated?

Post by Dai-Saiyajin » Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:11 pm

Trickster wrote:
Dai-Saiyajin wrote:I'm from Brazil, never really learned english, mostly that I know is self-taught.
Então é nóis, mano. Aqui é Brasil também. Eu tenho um grupo, no FB, sobre DB, onde a gente tenta fazer tipo um Kanzenshuu (só que, obviamente, em uma escala muito menor). Se quiser conhecer, dá um alô.
KorgDTR2000 wrote:The movies from this era are what I go to when I want to watch some DBZ animation porn. So epic.
I love all the movies, but those, specially, have wonderful animation. Tadayoshi Yamamuro was on his best.
E aí cara, que bacana ! legal saber que tem brasileiros por aqui também.

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Re: Is the Buu Saga the most well animated?

Post by Trickster » Sat Apr 08, 2017 2:03 pm

Dai-Saiyajin wrote:E aí cara, que bacana ! legal saber que tem brasileiros por aqui também.
Tem mais uns 3 gato pingado, que eu achei por aí, também, mas não lembro dos nicks deles.
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Re: Is the Buu Saga the most well animated?

Post by Dai-Saiyajin » Sat Apr 08, 2017 2:58 pm

HybridSaiyan wrote:Buu saga for the most part had incredible art and animation. It's such a downer we won't ever seen anything of the sort again in modern Dragon ball.

It's just crisp and beauty. It sparkles when I look at it lmao.

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Also, movies 10,11,12,13 were Dragon Ball animation at its very best.
Completely agree, it's very sad to think that DB Super will never have this level of Art/Animation, at that time of the buu saga, DBZ have talents like Toshiyuki Kanno, Keisuke Masunaga, Masaaki Iwane, Shingo Ishikawa, Tetsuya Saeki, Taiichiro Ohara, Naotoshi Shida, Naoki Miyahara, Akira Inagami, Kumiko Horikoshi, Kasuya Hisada, Masahiro Shimanuki, Noriko Shibata, Yuuji Hakamada, Takayuki Manaka, Akemi Ueda and Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru was the character design. Only Shimanuki, Naoki Tate, Koji Nashizawa and Jin Inaba returned and worked regularly in Super, while others like Shida, Ohara, Kazuyuki Ikai, Yoko Iikuza and Megumi Yamashita worked only on 2-4 episodes until now. From the new animators, Yuichi Karasawa, Osamu Ishikawa, Shuiichiro Manabe, Ken Ootsuka, Yuya Takahashi and Futoshi Higashide are the bests, but Takahashi showed up on only one episode and Ootsuka on 2 episodes. The only talented guy who draw regularly (even too much) is Higashide, he is saving the fights since future trunks arc.

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Re: Is the Buu Saga the most well animated?

Post by JustaboyZen » Sat Apr 08, 2017 4:56 pm

I think the Buu Saga was really well animated for it's time, but if we're going off of how good the animation is relative to the time of its release the Frieza Saga is the best imo. It could also be nostalgia kicking in, and that's the first saga where everything WOWed me.

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