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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kid Buu » Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:38 am

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jeffbr92 wrote:You didn't liked Budokai 3 or XENOVERSE series?
I've never played either; never owned a system they were released on (and my laptop isn't up to specs for current-gen gaming).

I never felt more than lukewarm about the first two Budokai games though. They were pretty mediocre licensed fighters.
If you ever get the chance, check out Super DBZ. I think it's the best of the PS2 games. Plays like Street Fighter.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kokonoe » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:32 am

I generally prefer dubs over the original because I think the voices are better and I don't mind localisations. With that said, there are a lot of subs I do enjoy such as Toriko (godlike), Naruto, and One Piece. I won't refuse to watch a sub, but if there's a dub variant out there, you know for sure I'll be checking that out first.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Bajosexto » Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:26 am

Kokonoe wrote:I generally prefer dubs over the original because I think the voices are better and I don't mind localisations. With that said, there are a lot of subs I do enjoy such as Toriko (godlike), Naruto, and One Piece. I won't refuse to watch a sub, but if there's a dub variant out there, you know for sure I'll be checking that out first.
I don't think that preferring the dub/s of DB is an unpopular opinion. Maybe it is here on Kanzenshuu, but I think that the average viewer around the world prefers their dub over the original Japanese version. And it makes sense. That's the version they grew up with. There used to those voices. While I love the Latin American dub of dbz, I've seen it many times(probably like 8-10 from beginning to end), I do enjoy the Japanese version a lot. I will admit that it took me some time to get used to the Japanese version though.

Personally most of the time I can and enjoy both the original and the dub. There are some shows/movies that I can only watch dubbed( Terminator 2, SpongeBob SquarePants), and others I can only watch in the original language(Modern Family, Family Guy). But there are a lot more where I enjoy both the original version and it's dub like DB, Dbz, The Simpsons, The Big Bang Theory, Malcolm in the middle, The Middle, Dr. House, Bones, Ranma 1/2, Naruto and much more.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by PsionicWarrior » Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:35 pm

Bajosexto wrote:I think that the average viewer around the world prefers their dub over the original Japanese version. And it makes sense. That's the version they grew up with.
I grew up with the french dub, then I saw the english dubs as a teen, and finally around 20 yo or so I watched the sub. I prefer the sub by a large margin and can never watch any dub again lol

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Bajosexto » Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:51 pm

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Bajosexto wrote:I think that the average viewer around the world prefers their dub over the original Japanese version. And it makes sense. That's the version they grew up with.
I grew up with the french dub, then I saw the english dubs as a teen, and finally around 20 yo or so I watched the sub. I prefer the sub by a large margin and can never watch any dub again lol
I'm sure there's a lot of fans like you that prefer the original Japanese over their dub. I'm kinda in the middle. I prefer the Japanese version of Dragon Ball but I love the Latin American dub dbz. I still think that the "casual" fans, which are the majority, prefer their version of the show and probably have never even seen a complete episode of DB in Japanese.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by jeffbr92 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:14 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:Whaaaa?! I know I've heard this before, but it never ceases to shock me. How does Furukawa in any way sound like a regular guy? I mean, the guy's first major DB role was General Blue. It sounds *nothing* like his Piccolo. And his Piccolo itself possesses such amazing range I can barely even describe it. From the quiet, sneering, demonic haughtiness of his normal speaking voice to his bombastic yelling when he gets excited, he can fit every mood the character conveys. He's absolutely fantastic as Piccolo. My only complaint is that his pitch goes so low with the speaking voice that he sometimes can't support it, and you can (very briefly) hear his voice cut out.
Is there any VA in the original dub that you particularly don't like it?
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:17 pm

I know I might be overreating but are you calling the original Japanese version a dub?

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Post by jeffbr92 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:21 pm

Well, it's a dubbing work too after all
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:25 pm

No it isnt. But I will drop this for peace.

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Post by Bansho64 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:27 pm

jeffbr92 wrote:Well, it's a dubbing work too after all
What Cure means to say is that, it ain't a dub, because a dub usually refers to voices being put over picture; hence, you're dubbing it over. But, in the original version's case, it's the other way around. Audio first, then the animation.

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Post by Soppa Saia People » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:29 pm

Cure Dragon 255 wrote:I know I might be overreating but are you calling the original Japanese version a dub?
Oh shit, do you have an eating disorder or something like that ?
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:30 pm

Cure Dragon 255 wrote:No it isnt. But I will drop this for peace.
There's no need to drop it. We can all discuss maturely, right? Here's the answer, in any case.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:31 pm

Cure Dragon 255 wrote:I know I might be overreacting but are you calling the original Japanese version a dub?
EDIT: Thanks for the heads up SSP!

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Post by Soppa Saia People » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:59 pm

Cure Dragon 255 wrote:I love you Super Saiya People. You are a nice fun guy. :thumbup:
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:11 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:Whaaaa?! I know I've heard this before, but it never ceases to shock me. How does Furukawa in any way sound like a regular guy? I mean, the guy's first major DB role was General Blue. It sounds *nothing* like his Piccolo. And his Piccolo itself possesses such amazing range I can barely even describe it. From the quiet, sneering, demonic haughtiness of his normal speaking voice to his bombastic yelling when he gets excited, he can fit every mood the character conveys. He's absolutely fantastic as Piccolo. My only complaint is that his pitch goes so low with the speaking voice that he sometimes can't support it, and you can (very briefly) hear his voice cut out.
I have to agree with you on this one. I don't see anything about Furukawa's Piccolo that screams regular guy. And yeah, it surprised me that Furukawa also played General Blue, who sounds nothing like Piccolo.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by jeffbr92 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:22 pm

Bansho64 wrote:But, in the original version's case, it's the other way around. Audio first, then the animation.
How they can voice without seeing the animation, characters expressions?
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:34 pm

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Bansho64 wrote:But, in the original version's case, it's the other way around. Audio first, then the animation.
How they can voice without seeing the animation, characters expressions?
He's not 100% correct in saying that the voices come before the animation. They certainly can, but it's desirable for the VA's to have access to the important animation beforehand. In cases where the animation isn't available for the Japanese VA's, there are still the storyboard sketches they can go off of, and the director can give an indicator of his vision for a scene as well.

With foreign dubs, that's not the case. The animation is set in stone and there's no direct directorial guidance from the original other than the finished performances themselves. It's an entirely different game.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Saikyo no Senshi » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:27 am

Bajosexto wrote:I think that the average viewer around the world prefers their dub over the original Japanese version. And it makes sense. That's the version they grew up with.
It depends where one lives. For example, in Nordic countries watching dubs when you're old enough to read is considered retarded. Dubs are strictly for kids there.

So, I don't think it can be said with 100% surety that the average viewer prefers watching whatever dubs they grew with over the original. It depends on the place.

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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:42 am

Saikyo no Senshi wrote:
Bajosexto wrote:I think that the average viewer around the world prefers their dub over the original Japanese version. And it makes sense. That's the version they grew up with.
It depends where one lives. For example, in Nordic countries watching dubs when you're old enough to read is considered retarded. Dubs are strictly for kids there.

So, I don't think it can be said with 100% surety that the average viewer prefers watching whatever dubs they grew with over the original. It depends on the place.
That's more of a cultural phenomena, it usually tends to occur in certain European countries. The vast majority of places are either monolingual or bilingual, and they tend to keep to that language(s). It's perfectly fair to make the general statement that most people prefer their particular dub.
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