Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 89

Post by ArchedThunder » Sun May 07, 2017 5:26 pm

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Is that even normal those storyboards look that bad?
No wonder Toriyama was almost quitting Super if he really supervises every storyboard, he basically saw Super's schedule collapse in front of his eyes.
It depends on the storyboard artist. If I'm not mistaken plenty of storyboarders in the industry practically use stick figures, while others have detailed art that is practically episode quality.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 89

Post by SaiyanGod117 » Sun May 07, 2017 5:33 pm

Tanki wrote:Storyboards for Super have just been put up for auction:

#49:- http://ekizo.mandarake.co.jp/auction/it ... dex=515302

#65:- http://ekizo.mandarake.co.jp/auction/it ... dex=515303

Also, more setting material was also put up for auction:- http://ekizo.mandarake.co.jp/auction/it ... dex=515301
It looks like someone pulled a Picasso and threw some drawings together.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 89

Post by ArchedThunder » Sun May 07, 2017 5:35 pm

For reference here is a precure storyboard that is fairly comparable to the Super 65 one.
http://ekizo.mandarake.co.jp/auction/it ... dex=514442

I'm not super knowledgeable about storyboards, but that 49 one does look incredibly messy to me. 65 is probably messier than most anime storyboards, but I think it gets the point across for what's supposed to be happening a lot better than the one for 49.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 89

Post by HybridSaiyan » Sun May 07, 2017 5:46 pm

SSJ2 Goku looks amazingly drawn in episode 90. I'm so happy my favorite transformation is getting some love.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 89

Post by Tanki » Sun May 07, 2017 6:01 pm

emperior wrote:Is that even normal those storyboards look that bad?
No wonder Toriyama was almost quitting Super if he really supervises every storyboard, he basically saw Super's schedule collapse in front of his eyes.
While in Super's case it's more than likely down to the terrible schedule, storyboards being very scribbly looking isn't that uncommon in the industry. It often depends on the artist' approach, some will go with very detailed drawings (https://twitter.com/Yuyucow/statuses/715277408950226944) and others may go with the more scribbly ones that get the point across (https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/29876).

Drawing ability is also a factor, quite a lot of storyboard artists simply aren't very good at drawing, since they come from backgrounds as production assistants and the like rather than being animators.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 89

Post by Mazingerdestro » Sun May 07, 2017 6:27 pm

HybridSaiyan wrote:SSJ2 Goku looks amazingly drawn in episode 90. I'm so happy my favorite transformation is getting some love.
This ssj2 shot looks "exactly" like one from episode five.
I can't wait for the episode to be released and to compare these 2 to see how much better the show looks now.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 89

Post by SaiyanGod117 » Sun May 07, 2017 6:35 pm

Maybe this is the episode where Yuya Takahashi pop ups anyone remember those SSJ3 doodles?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 89

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sun May 07, 2017 6:40 pm

SaiyanGod117 wrote:Maybe this is the episode where Yuya Takahashi pop ups anyone remember those SSJ3 doodles?
We already know that he isn't actually working on Super. They were, as you say, doodles. Nothing more than that.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 89

Post by SaiyanGod117 » Sun May 07, 2017 7:13 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
SaiyanGod117 wrote:Maybe this is the episode where Yuya Takahashi pop ups anyone remember those SSJ3 doodles?
We already know that he isn't actually working on Super. They were, as you say, doodles. Nothing more than that.
I know, just entertaining the idea, it's a possibility he could show up next episode. It's not impossible.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 89

Post by FortuneSSJ » Sun May 07, 2017 7:37 pm

-Episode 89-

WTF is this censorship?! We reached a level where Roshi can't even get nosebleeds and we get smoke instead. He had one in episode 3. This is ridiculous!
Other than that, I iked everything.

Tenshinhan's shirtless looked ripped.

Both Nashizawa and Itai are great additions to the supervisors. I'm curious to see how much they will evolve.
A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 89

Post by Sodhi » Sun May 07, 2017 9:43 pm

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90
Script: King Ryu
Storyboard: Murano Yuta
Episode Director: Hatano Kohei
Animation Supervisors: Yamazaki Hideki, Shimanuki Masahiro
91
Script: Yoshitaka Toshio
Storyboard/Director: Kazuya Karasawa
Animation Supervisor: Yoshitaka Yashima

92
Script: Tomioka Atsuhiro
Storyboard: Yamamoto Kiyosato
Episode Director: Iwai Takao
Animation Supervisor: Hiroyuki Itai

93
Script: Fukushima Yukinori
Storyboard: Sokabe Takashi
Episode Director: Immamura Takahiro
Animation Supervisor: Ono Tsumoto, Yukihiro Kitano

I missed Ono in #93 when writing this post. Thanks Ajay and Hujio for pointing it out.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 89

Post by ArchedThunder » Sun May 07, 2017 9:46 pm

Itai and Kitano again already?

EDIT: WTF? Yamazaki Hideki???
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 89

Post by Nasryyy » Sun May 07, 2017 9:48 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:Itai and Kitano again already?
better kitano in that episode than in the TOP episodes

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 89

Post by Nasryyy » Sun May 07, 2017 9:53 pm

ArchedThunder wrote: EDIT: WTF? Yamazaki Hideki???
is he good or bad ?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 89

Post by Sodhi » Sun May 07, 2017 9:53 pm

Freeza thing and Kitano is going to be a great cobo. Notttt :P

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 89

Post by ArchedThunder » Sun May 07, 2017 9:56 pm

Nasryyy wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote: EDIT: WTF? Yamazaki Hideki???
is he good or bad ?
He's from Bones, that's why it's weird.
Sodhi wrote:Freeza thing and Kitano is going to be a great cobo. Notttt :P
Couldn't be any worse than the last time he did an episode with Freeza... right?
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 89

Post by Ajay » Sun May 07, 2017 9:57 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:EDIT: WTF? Yamazaki Hideki???
Whoa. Holy shit, I totally skimmed over that in the midst of this Freeza bullshit.

That's insane. H Y P E THRUSTERS AT MAX!
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 89

Post by Sodhi » Sun May 07, 2017 10:04 pm

ArchedThunder wrote: Couldn't be any worse than the last time he did an episode with Freeza... right?
Oh god. I don't even want to remember that tragedy. On a serious note, excited for Yamazaki Hideki

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 89

Post by BakaManiaHD » Sun May 07, 2017 10:09 pm

Ajay wrote: Whoa. Holy shit, I totally skimmed over that in the midst of this Freeza bullshit.

That's insane. H Y P E THRUSTERS AT MAX!
Who is Yamazaki Hideki?
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 89

Post by SaiyanGod117 » Sun May 07, 2017 10:11 pm

Now I know the tournament is gonna look good, they've been doing nothing but outsourcing and giving episodes to support animators. When the tournament starts, I expect most of the episodes to be full on in-house. (Or a least seem like it was) Really when you think about it, the schedule has been quasily building up produce-production with all this outsourcing. Since it looks like the the outsourcing will continue until June, you can technically say that Super will have 6 months of preproduction time. Even some of the high production episodes like 79, 80, and 86 had some outscoring. Am I right or wrong?

I'm getting the 6 months because we've had 2 months of filler and it's been three months since the arc started.

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