
If Super Looked More like Z...
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I don't know...those backgrounds look like Z 

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Because those backgrounds ARE from Zdario03 wrote:I don't know...those backgrounds look like Z
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If Super looked anything like this I would probably drop the show because I would go blind.DragonBallFoodie wrote:SalvaMakoto has done it again!
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I mean... Ugh...
We have good references for accurate colors now more than ever. Kai 1.0 is a perfect color reference for that era, and Funimation's Blu-rays for the Boo Arc are a pretty decent reference for the correct colors of that era! Why is this still happening even?
Honestly, if he's going through all this trouble, it would be the easiest thing in the world to take a second glance at the old material and realize that the pictures aren't supposed to literally make your screen bleed.
We have good references for accurate colors now more than ever. Kai 1.0 is a perfect color reference for that era, and Funimation's Blu-rays for the Boo Arc are a pretty decent reference for the correct colors of that era! Why is this still happening even?
Honestly, if he's going through all this trouble, it would be the easiest thing in the world to take a second glance at the old material and realize that the pictures aren't supposed to literally make your screen bleed.
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Looks cool but it's weird too. Remember not only is the coloring different but the whole animation style is as well, so it does look more jarring than the original dbz
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I've always been a big Super apologist... but man, the images on the first page really made me wistful about the old style. There was something inherently tangible about them... it's hard to explain--it's like they're more organic--the slight grain and hand-drawn nature really put a lot of life into cartoons in the 80's/90's. Now everything looks like a Flash animation. Not to mention, most of the time characters look on-model in modern animation--why does it look weird when they look how they're supposed to? Gah, I'm torn.
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This guy's out of his mind. Those colors are way worse than the Orange Bricks, since he seemed to have looked for whatever episode looked the worst in and just copied that (and made it worse. What the hell is with the blue tint?)
I've already made an image of what Super would have looked like if it adhered to Z's designs and palette last year:
Here's the original:

Here's my correction:

If you want to take it even further with outright the same colors as Z (or Kai), including the grain, then here's this:

I've already made an image of what Super would have looked like if it adhered to Z's designs and palette last year:
Here's the original:

Here's my correction:

If you want to take it even further with outright the same colors as Z (or Kai), including the grain, then here's this:

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See, just like I said.simtek34 wrote:Because those backgrounds ARE from Zdario03 wrote:I don't know...those backgrounds look like Z
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Metalwario64 wrote:This guy's out of his mind. Those colors are way worse than the Orange Bricks, since he seemed to have looked for whatever episode looked the worst in and just copied that (and made it worse. What the hell is with the blue tint?)
I've already made an image of what Super would have looked like if it adhered to Z's designs and palette last year:
Here's the original:
Here's my correction:
If you want to take it even further with outright the same colors as Z (or Kai), including the grain, then here's this:
Now THAT'S how I would like Super to look.
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This looks fantastic!Metalwario64 wrote:[spoiler]This guy's out of his mind. Those colors are way worse than the Orange Bricks, since he seemed to have looked for whatever episode looked the worst in and just copied that (and made it worse. What the hell is with the blue tint?)
I've already made an image of what Super would have looked like if it adhered to Z's designs and palette last year:
Here's the original:
Here's my correction:
If you want to take it even further with outright the same colors as Z (or Kai), including the grain, then here's this:
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Personally I really like the new filter Super has but I'd kill for it look like this. I miss the old Gi color
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Not really a fan of those pictures, especially Hit's as the colors look absolutely awful.
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As others have said, this looks very good. Only minor gripe I personally see is with the hair colour as it looks barely any different to the previous edit, which to me, really makes it stand out as a modern trait rather than a pallet choice that "classic" Toei might've gone with. I get the feeling they would've used a lighter shade instead or maybe just something more muted, I'm not exactly sure yet. That being said, the shading also seems partially to blame for retaining the modern look since it has three points of shade, which, if memory serves, was typically only reserved for in-aura Super Saiyans (although there were exceptions in movies and the odd high budget scene).Metalwario64 wrote:[spoiler]If you want to take it even further with outright the same colors as Z (or Kai), including the grain, then here's this:
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I made a quick attempt in Photoshop to better illustrate what I was thinking. Again, I think the shading is most likely the main issue that detracts from the classic look but overall I think a slightly lighter shade helps keep it feel more in line with classic Super Saiyan hair pallets. That's just my personal opinion though.
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The reason I didn't mess with the hair is because that form didn't exist back then, and I'd just be guessing as to what it would look like.NitroEX wrote:As others have said, this looks very good. Only minor gripe I personally see is with the hair colour as it looks barely any different to the previous edit, which to me, really makes it stand out as a modern trait rather than a pallet choice that "classic" Toei might've gone with. I get the feeling they would've used a lighter shade instead or maybe just something more muted, I'm not exactly sure yet. That being said, the shading also seems partially to blame for retaining the modern look since it has three points of shade, which, if memory serves, was typically only reserved for in-aura Super Saiyans (although there were exceptions in movies and the odd high budget scene).Metalwario64 wrote:[spoiler]If you want to take it even further with outright the same colors as Z (or Kai), including the grain, then here's this:
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I made a quick attempt in Photoshop to better illustrate what I was thinking. Again, I think the shading is most likely the main issue that detracts from the classic look but overall I think a slightly lighter shade helps keep it feel more in line with classic Super Saiyan hair pallets. That's just my personal opinion though.
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I can certainly make it match the lightness of Z's Super Saiyan hair without the aura if you want:

I also made sure I used the exact colors for the rest of the image from Kai for this one by selecting each color and overlaying it as a color layer in GIMP. Last time I eyeballed it.
Also, at first there were only 2 shades, but by the Buu arc, every animator was using two shades for Super Saiyan hair without the glow.
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