What's the problem?Kishido wrote:OK never cares that much for the manga... But now I'm dropping it completely... Goku using Hakai... well no thank you
"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
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Gosh, is that really necessary? That's something that I hate about Super characterization, why portray characters in such regression? That's something that I would expect from Android arc/Movie 6 Vegeta, not the same guy after the Boo arc, damn.Ki Breaker wrote:Look at him saving his pal in tsundere ways..SansrivaaL wrote:Alright Vegeta... WTF? now is not the fucking time.
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It seems to be a last resort attack he is building up
Oh my god, this makes even worse. I know Spirit Bomb Sword was also this level of nonsense, but I didn't expect Toyotaro would go full nuts on it.Jinzoningen MULE wrote:Goku's never actually seen the Hakai technique in the manga. It's still not a huge deal, since it doesn't seem like a terribly complex technique, just thought I'd mention it.ekrolo2 wrote:You should probably stop watching Dragon Ball since characters constantly just see a technique then can do it without issue.
Not really. Goku is not the type of wanting to obliterate his opponents all the time, but this technique indeed make him OP. He shouldn't have learn it.Ki Breaker wrote:Hakai is OP, It won't be easy writing him in the future, addressing the question why he didn't use hakai in future fights is going to be though
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Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Looks like a really awesome chapter so far. Though the Hakai thing if it can be called that, is a double edged sword. It's gonna become practically the new Kienzan, but only worse potentially. Still GOKU ADDS NEW TECHNIQUES FOR ONCE! That's so much better than just "RAGGH BRUTE FORCE/NEW FORM/POWER UP". More techniques please to add to the arsenal.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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They had plenty of chances to see it. They trained with Whis on Beerus' planet.Jinzoningen MULE wrote:They wouldn't have had a chance to see it. That's a pretty weird mistake, perhaps Toyotaro has forgotten he didn't have Goku tag along with Beerus when he confronted Zamasu. I get what Toyotaro's going for though, now that he's properly maintaining God Ki inside of him, his attacks resemble that of an actual god.SansrivaaL wrote:Maybe they seen it off page, I mean Vegeta knew what it was.
Trunks: T....Thats!?
Vegeta: Beerus' technique!
In the movie, Beerus Hakai'd an egg. Beerus also expects Goku and Vegeta to become Gods of Destruction, so I'm sure he showed them the ability
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Enough for me to drop it... But learning hakai just casually is lol worthy.Ki Breaker wrote:What's the problem?Kishido wrote:OK never cares that much for the manga... But now I'm dropping it completely... Goku using Hakai... well no thank you
He should spam it at ToP
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Shallow reaction comment: I like what Toyotaro is doing with Blue in the manga. It feels appropriately momentous.
(I also like that Whis was the one to name it "Blue.")
(I also like that Whis was the one to name it "Blue.")
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What about the Genki Dama Sword then?Kishido wrote:Enough for me to drop it... But learning hakai just casually is lol worthy.Ki Breaker wrote:What's the problem?Kishido wrote:OK never cares that much for the manga... But now I'm dropping it completely... Goku using Hakai... well no thank you
He should spam it at ToP
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He can't use that technique in the top since killing is not allowed, your just over reactingKishido wrote:Enough for me to drop it... But learning hakai just casually is lol worthy.Ki Breaker wrote:What's the problem?Kishido wrote:OK never cares that much for the manga... But now I'm dropping it completely... Goku using Hakai... well no thank you
He should spam it at ToP
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It's implied they learnt it while training at Berrus, Vegeta knows it as well with it's drawbacks..Kishido wrote:Enough for me to drop it... But learning hakai just casually is lol worthy.Ki Breaker wrote:What's the problem?Kishido wrote:OK never cares that much for the manga... But now I'm dropping it completely... Goku using Hakai... well no thank you
He should spam it at ToP
Goku has one chance at using hakai after that his energy is zero, unless only he gets to kill and somehow manages to eradicate this drawback, he can't spam hakai..
Trunks genki sword has way more holes than this, dropping managa based on some scans which mostly make sense seems extreme
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Genkidama sword was bad as hell and I'm still mad at this... Same goes for Ikari.Avok wrote:What about the Genki Dama Sword then?Kishido wrote:Enough for me to drop it... But learning hakai just casually is lol worthy.Ki Breaker wrote: What's the problem?
He should spam it at ToP
Still this one is taking the cake... and I'm not only talking about hakai... Something someone as Goku shouldn't have.
Just think of him using it casually like Beerus
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Trunks needed Goku and Vegeta God Ki besides the humans Ki to achieve the Genkidama mode.Avok wrote:
What about the Genki Dama Sword then?
We have already seen people give their ki to others(Goku to Frieza, Krillin/Gohan to Piccolo in Namek, Piccolo to Gohan in FnF and ToP Arc).
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He can't use it casually. He has to use MSSB, and then he loses all his energy just by using it once.Kishido wrote:Genkidama sword was bad as hell and I'm still mad at this... Same goes for Ikari.Avok wrote:What about the Genki Dama Sword then?Kishido wrote:
Enough for me to drop it... But learning hakai just casually is lol worthy.
He should spam it at ToP
Still this one is taking the cake... and I'm not only talking about hakai... Something someone as Goku shouldn't have.
Just think of him using it casually like Beerus
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And the misfire of the Super Saiyan God ritual before they added Videl. Goku took their ki and got a lot stronger.perucho1990 wrote:We have already seen people give their ki to others(Goku to Frieza, Krillin/Gohan to Piccolo in Namek, Piccolo to Gohan in FnF and ToP Arc).
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And Goku to Krillin in Saiyan arc. But following the logic some people go about FT Trunks Genki Sword scene, I guess Krillin can do the Genkidama alone too.BlueBasilisk wrote:And the misfire of the Super Saiyan God ritual before they added Videl. Goku took their ki and got a lot stronger.perucho1990 wrote:We have already seen people give their ki to others(Goku to Frieza, Krillin/Gohan to Piccolo in Namek, Piccolo to Gohan in FnF and ToP Arc).
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Again... What if he will master it... And do it casually like Beerus?OLKv3 wrote:He can't use it casually. He has to use MSSB, and then he loses all his energy just by using it once.Kishido wrote:Genkidama sword was bad as hell and I'm still mad at this... Same goes for Ikari.Avok wrote:
What about the Genki Dama Sword then?
Still this one is taking the cake... and I'm not only talking about hakai... Something someone as Goku shouldn't have.
Just think of him using it casually like Beerus
Think a bit into the future... Hakai being done by mortals is just bad as Trunks and his healing abilities.
Some stuff should stay unique to the gods
But I bet manga Goku will learn Zeno's universe multiveral erasing attack as well
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Beerus has said multiple times he wants Goku to be the next god of destruction. So it's maybe not a coincidence.Kishido wrote:Again... What if he will master it... And do it casually like Beerus?OLKv3 wrote:He can't use it casually. He has to use MSSB, and then he loses all his energy just by using it once.Kishido wrote:
Genkidama sword was bad as hell and I'm still mad at this... Same goes for Ikari.
Still this one is taking the cake... and I'm not only talking about hakai... Something someone as Goku shouldn't have.
Just think of him using it casually like Beerus
Think a bit into the future... Hakai being done by mortals is just bad as Trunks and his healing abilities.
Some stuff should stay unique to the gods
But I bet manga Goku will learn Zeno's universe multiveral erasing attack as well
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That would be another reason to Toppo and other gods to despise/hate him. This is an nice build up to the Tournament of PowerKishido wrote:Again... What if he will master it... And do it casually like Beerus?OLKv3 wrote:He can't use it casually. He has to use MSSB, and then he loses all his energy just by using it once.Kishido wrote:
Genkidama sword was bad as hell and I'm still mad at this... Same goes for Ikari.
Still this one is taking the cake... and I'm not only talking about hakai... Something someone as Goku shouldn't have.
Just think of him using it casually like Beerus
Think a bit into the future... Hakai being done by mortals is just bad as Trunks and his healing abilities.
Some stuff should stay unique to the gods
But I bet manga Goku will learn Zeno's universe multiveral erasing attack as well
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Because Goku is known for using killing techniques against everyone with every given chance.Kishido wrote:Again... What if he will master it... And do it casually like Beerus?
Think a bit into the future... Hakai being done by mortals is just bad as Trunks and his healing abilities.
Some stuff should stay unique to the gods
But I bet manga Goku will learn Zeno's universe multiveral erasing attack as well
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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It looks like chapter 24 ended here
You know what this means,Zeno time in chapter 25
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How in the world did that happen.


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